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Many Canadians outside of Quebec are indeed very happy about this as they tend to reduce this issue to ethnic nationalism. In so doing however, they are themselves guilty of intolerence in that they refuse to recognise the existence of a distinct Quebec society that is just as open, tolerent and pluralistic as is the rest of Canada.

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my main road block for an independent quebec is that the rest of canada's resources would be diverted faster to the US. Another road block I have with separation, is I like english people, I believe anglos are part of my heritage same as the rockies, I do not wish to part from. Where I refuse my political allegiance to give, is where canadian wealth give a greater benefit to corporations to the detriment of the people. Politically, the governements of Quebec including the PQ failed bringing more socialism to the province. If you recall Bouchard , (a pseudo souvereignist) who made all the budjet Cuts similar to the rest of the country's conservatives, reformists (canadian ne0-cons ?). This is a good indicative of quebec political parties willing to give up social democratic process and ideology for reforms that are to the benefit of corporations. Bouchard should never had been elected premier..( the PQ), personally I think it was a shame and an insult. For the social reasons above, this will be my no to separation. Justin , I overheard about hezbollah supporters are camping and are demanding the lebanese premier to resign.. is this what you are alluding to?

Dion has definitely a more interesting position than Ignatieff with regards to international policy and has been qualified by some as a progressive liberal. This being said, in his own province of Quebec, Dion is not particularly perceived in a positive manner, particularly in regards to the Clarity Bill for which he was the prime mover as Minister of Intergovernemental Affairs in the previous Chretien governement. This piece of legislation imposed on the people of Quebec a less than democratic standard regarding any future referendum on sovereignty.

Many Canadians outside of Quebec are indeed very happy about this as they tend to reduce this issue to ethnic nationalism. In so doing however, they are themselves guilty of intolerence in that they refuse to recognise the existence of a distinct Quebec society that is just as open, tolerent and pluralistic as is the rest of Canada.

It really is amazing how little we knew about ANY of the candidates, except for Ignatieff, who for some reason gave the editorial staff of the Globe and Mail a permanent hard-on and had published material on foreign policy issues.

Rae had a pretty high profile because of his ill-fated premiership in Ontario (while a member of the NDP) and his recent report on education. But as you say, we don't have a very good idea of what kind of flavour his policy would have since it seems to change according to the winds of fortune.

Dion and Kennedy were ciphers. Ken Dryden was a hockey player - besides that I had no idea what he was about. I can't even remember the names of the others. Some supported the "Quebecers as a nation" motion, some did not, which I interpreted as a function of political calculation rather than reliable index of their future policies in this area. In fact, that goes for almost everything they say.

I'm inclined to ignore any information about individual politicians and instead focus on policy itself. Party culture, electoral support, and most of all the economic, social and political landscape are better predictive factors of policy than the individual candidate, who will always appear to us in whatever way his or her minders tell her is the most expedient. This is especially true of federal politics and provincial politics (municipal elections are too bush league to hire expensive ad agencies and slick campaign teams.) Policy is the substance, politicians are the style.

Take bill 107, which is "reforming" the human rights commission in Ontario. McGuinty, the current Ontario premier, is gutting the commission and privatizing the human rights complaints process because the existing system is underfunded and hopelessly backlogged. It's more accurate, however, to say the "Liberals" are doing it. Even more accurate to say that the "Ontario government" is doing it, since the policy is the product of circumstances that have been engineered through decades of willful neglect under all three major parties.