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Alice Miller, traumas, and Youth Liberation

By Justin Podur at Aug 06, 2007


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I figured I might as well take advantage of my psychology binge-reading to do some blogging, rather than keep all my thoughts to myself. The point for me isn't to look for a psychological cause behind every political phenomenon, but to pay attention to a dimension of life, including political life, that I haven't paid attention to until now. So in addition to the discussion of Alfie Kohn, today I have some thoughts on Alice Miller. In the next blog entry I'll discuss John Gottman and some of the more "scientific" types of analyses. Kohn's work suggests that people are moved for intrinsic reasons and creating an environment in which intrinsic motivation can flower is the best way to elicit good outcomes in education, work, parenting, or anything. It is based on an idea, a very anarchist idea, that what is in people is good, and if it's not suppressed, it adds up to a good society. But a natural question arises from that is, if people are so good, how come they do such horrible things? Alice Miller, who also thinks that what is in people is good, takes a crack at an answer in her books. I had dismissed the entire field of psychology for many years on the basis of Freud's "Oedipus Complex", the idea that children want to have sex with their parents, something that always struck me as preposterous. A friend of mine suggested Alice Miller to me, though, and I found her answers to that particular argument convincing. Others have apparently made the same argument, it turns out. The argument is this - apparently Freud in 1896 came up with a hypothesis based on his "hysteria" patients that their "hysteria" was caused by childhood sexual abuse and the repression of the trauma from it. When he tried this hypothesis out, his peers rejected it. He found no recognition of it in society at the time. He himself apparently wrote in his journal or in a letter (I can't remember which) something like - if hysteria is caused by childhood sexual abuse, and there are so many people with hysteria, then there must be so much sexual abuse, and there can't be that much, therefore that can't be the cause. Then, according to Miller, Freud began to construct the "Oedipus Complex", which is an inversion of reality - instead of adults putting sexual desires and acting them out on children, Oedipus complex says it's the reverse. In Miller's view, most mental problems are the result of some kind of childhood trauma, abuse, shame, or humiliation. Children are utterly dependent on adults for their survival, so a full understanding of the fact that they are being exploited and used rather than loved and protected would be unbearably painful to them. So they repress these memories and react by some kind of identification with the adults, even though the memories are stored in the body. Later on these things come out on their own children, or in other relationships or social - or, interestingly, political - behavior. Miller argues these points in a series of books, some of which include analyses of dictators and dictatorships like Hitler and Ceaucescu, where she shows (in a way that I found more convincing than I'd expected, given my tendency to look for political, economic, and cultural/ideological factors behind political phenomena) how they were enacting, on a grand scale, the humiliations and abuses that were done to them as children. Given that families children grow up in are basically totalitarian systems, Miller argues, it's no surprise that adults tolerate and are complicit in such systems outside of the family. If children were treated with dignity and love, they would recognize massive-scale forms of abuse and authoritarianism and resist them, they would know that they and others deserve better. She also shows how some of those who did see through society's hypocrisies, like Sophie Scholl, had a very different childhood background or upbringing than their peers. One interesting comment she makes in one of her books is this: could Jesus have been so insightful or compelling if he had had a normal upbringing? Did not his incredible confidence and critique of his society come in part from the fact that his parents explicitly believed he was a child of God? What if, Miller asks, all parents treated their children this way? Reading Miller can be very painful if it makes you recall your own childhood humiliations and abuses, but it is ultimately a very hopeful idea. Because Miller believes that it is the blocking off of feelings that would have killed an unsupported child that creates all the problems, she believes that being able to experience those feelings safely, as an adult, with loving support, can create genuine healing. It's very optimistic in that sense. She also suggests that specific problems and reactions in relationships have their origins in childhood trauma. Apologies if this is all cliched or well-known to you - it is all pretty new to me, since I had essentially shunned the field of psychology until recently. Actually I want to close with some thoughts on how these things turn into cliches or have their value diluted. But a few more thoughts on trauma first... Thinking about trauma led me to a book (thanks to another recommendation) called "Trauma and the Body" by Ogden et al. It's a pretty recent book and is based on a lot of scientific data about how people deal with trauma. There is a hierarchy of responses to traumatic events. First, a person will use his sociability - to try to talk an attacker out of attacking, for example. Next, the flight or fight response is activated. If that fails - as it frequently does with children who are smaller, weaker, slower than their adult assailants - the disassociation response begins. Being traumatized while disassociated causes later attacks of post-traumatic stress, disassociative responses, panic attacks, triggers, and so on. The book recommends a kind of sensorimotor therapy for this sort of trauma, in which the body can re-learn responses that didn't work as a child but would work as an adult. These readings have given me a much sharper eye for trauma and a different lens to look at my own and others' behavior, including political behavior. I continue to believe that a lot of political behavior is rational and can be predicted, and for that matter resisted if necessary, on that basis. But there is an irrational dimension in all these matters that is very important to understand. Not least because it can help us all improve our relationships and communities. Our alienation from ourselves and one another serves the existing system of power. If people get used to being treated well and treating others well, it is much harder to threaten or control or exploit them. The most obvious place for these ideas in the world of Z thinking is in the kinship sphere and specifically "Youth Liberation", as it's often taught and discussed by Brian Dominick. Youth Liberation is all about treating kids with dignity, not very differently from adults. You do have to make some modifications for capacity, but fewer than most people realize and the point is to constantly think about whether these modifications are for the sake of the kid or for the sake of the adult. Miller's very definition of exploitation is using a child for something that's not in the child's interest. Where I think Miller can ad to Kid Lib is in revealing how kids need to be liberated, but also the kids inside us need to be liberated. Miller's idea for doing this is having the support of someone (she calls them "enlightened witnesses") who identify fully with the child, don't try to explain or rationalize what adults have done or are doing, and allow the child to experience all the feelings of anger, rage, shame, humiliation that they suppressed out of fear. Children who have that support and are allowed to feel things and express their feelings are much stronger, much better in relationships, much harder to control or manipulate. Adults who can consciously go through a process where they can do this can also heal and not succumb to compulsions or neuroses or harming children themselves, Alice argues (though she doesn't present scientific evidence for the success of this sort of treatment - for scientific psychology, try Gottman, who I'll discuss next). Returning to a previous thought: what is the difference between a formulaic application of an idea and an honest engagement with it? When I mentioned Alice Miller to one friend, for example, she groaned and talked about how her parents used Miller to criticize each other and dwell endlessly on their childhoods while neglecting those around them. In other words they found license in Miller for self-indulgence. This is analogous to people finding in Marx or Lenin license for authoritarian behavior or people finding in anarchism license for having no political strategy or people finding in anti-racist analysis license for self-righteousness. I have begun to think that anything can be turned into a formula in this way, including parecon, or Chomsky's writing on foreign policy. But knowing that everything can be turned into a formula is less interesting than figuring out how to *not* treat some ideas as formulas. What is the difference between a formulaic use and a non-formulaic use?
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The problem with pyschology and politics...

By Rundin, John at Aug 11, 2007 00:48 AM

I liked this essay very much.

For me, the biggest question is the relation between individual psychology and social structure (or order or whatever you want to call it).

But there's a problem in relating psychological states due to childhood trauma and larger social movements. It tends to lead to absurdities--say, that Hitler's poor toilet training led to World War II.

It's a very tricky business.

And I will say something shameful--I think the best efforts at linking individual psychology with larger social structure are those associated with Classical Economics. Adam Smith, Militon Friedman at all. I'm not saying they aren't seriously flawed, but at least there is a logical method there that sometimes does get things right. And it ain't as if I weren't a left-winger.

But there are just serious problems relating psychology to politics, two phenomena of wildly different orders.

 

 

 

 

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Alice Millter

By Harris, Mark at Aug 10, 2007 08:26 AM

I agree with you, Justin, about the importance of Miller's work. Her many books offer a radical critique of existing society and mainstream psychology and psychiatry, and I've thought for a long time that the left hasn't given her the attention she deserves. In her book, The Truth Will Set You Free, for example, she subjects Angela's Ashes, Frank McCourt's graphic description of the misery and troubles of his Irish childhood, to a critique that exposes even as he paints a picture of shocking childhood deprivation an underlying conservatism. The message of Angela's Ashes, says Miller: "My childhood was awful, but it had its moments, and the main thing is I survived it all and can write about it. It's the way of the world." To Miller, Angela's Ashes proclaims a kind of fatalistic acceptance of things as they are. Rather, we should rebel against this kind of childhood, she says, instead of using defeatist irony and humor to explain away pain. There are many other examples of Miller's observant challenge to "the way of the world." 

Interestingly, her study of the early years of Adolf Hitler highlighted the fact that the German dictator was routinely beaten and humiliated by his father. Allegedly, the adult Hitler, despite all the power he had acquired, still used to count out loud in his sleep, as years earlier his father had routinely made him do during his beatings. Of course, some critics say Miller's attention to such details of Hitler's psyche, reduces the entire spectacle of German fascism to the scarred, violent childhood and psyche of one troubled soul. Obviously, fascism was a product of a whole convergence of historical factors, not merely the product of one man's childhood. But Hitler wasn't born evil — he was made; and Miller rightly refuses to accept the idea that evil is unexplainable. In fact, Hitler was a product of the "normal" Germanic upbringing of his day, as was fascism and World War II a natural outgrowth of the historical workings and contradictions of the world economy. All of it can be explained, and none of it has to do with some inherent, violent flaw in our human nature. There is no original sin. Nor are there "evil" babies.

Miller acknowledges that she never intended to argue that only psychological factors were at work in the story of Hitler's rise to power. What she has done is simply point out how consistently the psychological kernel of all the social madness is ignored. She's an important thinker. 

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Fear and Loathing

By Kissenger, Clark at Aug 07, 2007 20:24 PM

Re-reading you post reminded me of a discussion I've had with my wife about this when we are frustrated with our daughter who has just called us some vile names and stomped away: the biggest difference between the way we bring up our daughter and the way both of our parents brought up us (especially our dads) is that we were raised with a constant threat of at least some possible violence (a bad spanking with a belt, maybe) or at least severe punishment. If my daughter tells me to fuck off (not as infrequently as I'd prefer) she just walks upstairs. If I ever told my dad to fuck off (once or twice) I sprinted out of the house at top speed and didn't return for several hours. I remember once my dad actually threatening to murder my brother and me with a hunting knife at a restaurant where we were goofing off and embarrassing him. Luckily we didn't take him seriously, even though he acted serious, so we didn't experience any trauma in the long term. I think by then we had blown him off as an asshole freak we had to put up with, mostly, so things that seemed outrageous blew past us quite easily. No matter what, no matter how you do things as a parent, the parent-child relationship will involve some friction, maybe even tons of it with varying personalities, just because it is a parent-child relationship and the parent at times will want to make sure the seatbelt is buckled, metaphorically speaking, and the child will raise hell about it. That's my guess.

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formulas and being human

By Kissenger, Clark at Aug 07, 2007 17:00 PM

I haven't read Miller but I do know that with Kohn his stuff is based on common sense if you hold the same humanistic values as people like Chomsky seem to. He backs up his ideas with loads of research on intrinsic motivation and rewards and punishment, much in the same way I've heard Chomsky and others have to cite every last detail since they are coming from outside the power structure, where those supporting power can just say what they want. Kohn's stuff tends to go against any type of authoritarian impulse people might have around children, so it can piss lots of people off, especially parents and educators who think they are doing pretty well with a system of rewards and milder punishments like time-outs. He doesn't have a formula, and in his parenting book he goes to lengths to try to explain why you can't have a formula but rather general guidelines (which should be common sense) for not treating children like dogs to train and that over time might help you develop a much better relationship with them -- but of course this is exactly what many people don't want to hear.

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formulas and being human

By Kissenger, Clark at Aug 06, 2007 14:37 PM

To continue the thought of your last paragraph... One thing that Chomsky reiterates constantly (usually in reply to specific political questions posed to him), is that there are no general principles or formulas one can apply to human affairs, beyond common sense or truisms. This seems true to me. Whatever the subject, you have to consider the specific circumstances and go from there (your "honest engagement"). We as human beings do not understand very much about ourselves in any way that would allow us to start applying formulas and principles to our development and behavior. I can imagine Chomsky saying something like: "Things in very specific domains, such as language development, one can start to unravel principles and the mind's machinations -- but that's a very narrow domain compared to 'human child development' as a whole concept. There are no general formulas to apply to human affairs." This seems very true to me. If this were false then humans would be something akin to robots with absolutely no value or essence at all.

I don't want to appear as writing-off "psychology" and these authors you mention as being of no value. The subject matters are very interesting and may be deep and useful in many ways. As for child development, I think we all know cases where bad people come from good environments, and vice versa. General formulas to nurture good child development, or create a more decent society maybe couldn't and probably shouldn't exist. In other words, besides our basic moral values (including what Chomsky calls the "principle of universality": applying to ourselves the same rules we apply to others), everything is basically contextual from that point on.

 

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