Chomsky is Wrong, Peters is Right
By Brad Wilson at Sep 12, 2008 |
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(This is part of a series of my blogs related to the conventions and post convention presidential politics. I wrote more extensively on the Peters article off line at the time. I see it as related to current challenges. I am relatively new to ZSpace.)
In 2004 Cynthia Peters wrote an important ZSpace commentary on what the left should be doing called “Talking Back to Chomsky.” (http://www.zcommunications.org/zspace/commentaries/1929) A key argument she made is that Noam Chomsky has repeatedly said that groups on the left know what to do and, if you really wrestling with how to win, all you do is join a local group.
Peters pointed out that this is a huge and ongoing question that Chomsky essentially
“gets asked at the end of every talk. He says he gets letters about it every day. When I worked at South End Press in the 1980s, we used to ask him to include something about it at the end of his lengthy denunciations of U.S. imperial policy....”
Peters quotes Chomsky in an interview in the Progressive: "The fact is, we can do just about anything. There is no difficulty, wherever you are, in finding groups that are working hard on things that concern you."
I don’t question that there are plenty of these groups working hard. I question whether they know what to do to win. In my experience, which comes from training and work as an issue organizer, individuals and groups on the left usually don’t know what to do to be successful. Most of what is done locally is not very effective. That is my opinion, based upon what I’ve seen first hand, and what I’ve read about strategy and activism at various web sites.
What I’ve found, in fact, is that, by my criteria established leaders are often the worst on this question, while newcomers are more inclined to search for the much needed ways to be more effective, as in the questions to Chomsky.
I’ve posted an introduction to my answer to the question “what should we do?” in an earlier blog, “How to Win: My Organizers Checklist.”
I understand that social movements have arisen throughout history and won victories without necessarily following these criteria. We can see that in hindsight. That doesn’t mean, however, that most of the methods used were particularly effective at winning changes within a reasonable time frame.
I conclude that, as the anomaly of the ongoing questions to Chomsky strongly suggests, we have a long way to go on this topic. We have serious work to do.



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By Wilson, Brad at Dec 16, 2008 12:59 PM
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I think
By McGehee, Michael at Sep 15, 2008 10:41 AM
she is misunderstanding Chomsky.
As a reader of nearly everything Chomsky has written and from someone who has asked him similar questions I think I have a good of idea what he is saying and why he is being somewhat vague.
To begin with he has said many times that he is not an expert on tactics and strategies. He said he tried it in the old days and was awful at it. He feels he is better serving as a speaker and writer on issues.
Also, there really isn\'t much of a blueprint. This is something that Michael Albert also talks about in the first chapter of Real Utopia. That is, progressive change is not a science we can replicate in a lab. There are many "variables" (Albert) and it\'s constantly changing in real time.
What Chomsky is saying is that we can do nearly anything, and we can. Perhaps we will find that such and such tactics under such and such conditions work better or not. Ultimately, the path and strategies we choose to take depend on the issues, the enviornment were operating in and what we are willing to risk to achieve our goals.
I would think it to be dangerous to offer one size fits all strategies or to pretend there is a blue print. Considering the "variables" I think it is appropriate for Chomsky to give a vague answer, and if we\'re willing to get our hands dirty then we should take the time to educate ourselves on what we think will be the most effective methods to achieve our goals, and I am positive Chomsky agrees with this.
I get what Peters is saying and I agree with her, though I don\'t think she is representing Chomsky very accurately and could have easily found this out by simply asking him.
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Re: I think
By Wilson, Brad at Sep 24, 2008 03:33 AM
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