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Defending Noam Chomsky?

By Matthew Green at Jun 04, 2008


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Defending Noam Chomsky?

 

A short while ago, I saw an entry on "Albert's Alcove" and someone suggested a biography of Noam Chomsky. I thought that if anyone was going to write a biography of Chomsky, it should be Noam himself. What I would like to see is, if someone can manage the feat, a defense of Chomsky. Ever since Chomsky started writing political critiques, he has come under criticism. The criticism is not limited to political conservatives like David Horowitz. In fact, one of biggest critics of his first book, American Power and the New Mandarins was liberal historian Arthur Schlesinger Jr. Schlesinger and Chomsky got into an argument over some quotes that Chomsky attributed to Harry Truman. Chomsky alleges that it was a misunderstanding due to an error on his part but he corrected it. Schlesinger argues that even as a paraphrase of Truman, Chomsky's "quotation" was bogus and alleged dishonesty on Chomsky's part.  

 

This was not the first or the last criticism of Chomsky. I have seen some criticisms of Chomsky come from Samuel Huntington who accused Chomsky of outright dishonesty. I have seen others accuse Chomsky of defending horrible Communist regimes such as in Cambodia. Some of Chomsky's biggest critics have been self-described liberals like Oliver Kamm. The criticisms of Chomsky are not confined to his political writings either. Even other linguists are strong critics of Chomsky such as Paul Postal and Robert Levine. It is not simply the case that they disagree with Chomsky and think his ideas are wrong or his arguments flawed. They have gone so far as to accuse Chomsky of dishonesty and plagiarism. I have become aware of these criticisms by reading websites of people like Oliver Kamm and others.

 

What I would like to know is whether or not anyone is interested in writing a defense of Dr. Chomsky? If these criticisms are groundless and even dishonest, it's best to rebut them and expose them for what they may be. I was wondering if Amy Goodman or David Barsamian would be interested in writing a book, composing detailed replies to critics of Chomsky. These are serious criticisms and they're not all from right-wing hacks like Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. I would not even be too quick to dismiss, say, David Horowitz and criticism of Chomsky by him given that he's a former leftist and needs to be taken seriously. He may hold a certain sway among people and if he's not taken seriously and replied to, then some newer folks who might otherwise give Chomsky's materials serious consideration, might be turned off from doing so by folks like Horowitz. Horowitz has authored The Anti-Chomsky Reader and this is a serious critique of Chomsky and his work. I have been reading this book out of curiosity, wondering what Chomsky's critics had to say about him. What I have read is actually very disturbing.

 

Before anyone says to me "Matt, come on! Noam is a hero to all Americans who are against capitalism, against imperialism, against propaganda, you need not take these authors seriously!" I want to say something: these are serious critiques and some of the critiques are written by actual scholars! If there is something wrong with these critiques of Chomsky, can someone please take the time to show me what is wrong with them? I have read the exchange between Chomsky and Huntington over the allegation of dishonesty and, to be perfectly honest, I am not at all satisfied with Chomsky's response to it. I have been reading Oliver Kamm's blog and read about his complaint against Chomsky, a complaint of deliberate distortion regarding a quote from a former U.S. Embassador regarding East Timor.

 

I have nothing against Dr. Chomsky personally, mind anyone. He has always come across as being very cordial, friendly, kind, and always seems gentlemanly in taped interviews, talks, lectures, and even in a debate I saw with him and William Buckley Jr. back in the very late 60s, I think it was. I am going to "bite the bullet" here- I have been wrestling with second thoughts about Dr. Chomsky. Back as an undergraduate, I strongly admired Chomsky. He was the "Einstein" of linguistics, the "most important intellectual alive today". I took anarchist political philosophy seriously in part because of Chomsky (Interestingly enough, Albert Einstein himself was a socialist, especially in his later years). However after reading some criticisms of Chomsky, I became uncomfortable, beginning with the exchange with Schlesinger and Huntington. I was particularly shocked to read of a speech he gave in Hanoi and to see a picture of him with Fidel Castro.

 

Let me repeat with a qualification here: I have nothing against Dr. Chomsky personally but I do have something against past Marxist regimes and people who defend them. As far as I know, all of the past Marxist regimes seem to me to be horribly guilty of mass atrocities towards people. The regimes of Stalin, Pol Pot, and Ho Chi Minh strike me as being murderous Communist regimes. I am not surprised that this has happened. I recall reading the words of the Russian anarchist, Mikhail Bakunin who warned about Marxist "socialists" coming to power and the brutal atrocities inflicted upon people by these regimes seems to me to be a chilling prophecy that has come true over the last half century since Bakunin's time. Let me ask a painful question: what is going on here?

 

After becoming aware of these criticisms I actually contacted Dr. Chomsky, hoping that there was some explanation and maybe I could interest him in writing a book defending himself from these criticisms. Chomsky replied by saying that he has responded to Schlesinger but he doesn't respond to Horowitz, saying that responding to "lies" would only result in "more lies". Nevertheless, he always responds individually. Okay, I thought, given his age, I wasn't going to try to arm-twist him into writing a defense or anything like that. But I did try to contact other people who are friendly with Chomsky, including Amy Goodman and Alternative Radio. I never got a response. I want to ask people who are fond of Chomsky, who are friends with him a very important question: if these criticisms are wrong, misplaced, or worse, dishonest- can anyone please patiently go through with me and show me how?

 

I want to be able to give Dr. Chomsky the benefit of the doubt considering that he is a fellow anarchist like me and a strong supporter of Parecon. We both seem to really like Parecon; the more I read about it, the more I like it. A short while ago, I recommended Parecon to a political conservative for study, got his e-mail address, and sent him two files that I have: one was by Robin Hahnel on exploitation and the other was a joint journal paper by Hahnel and Albert titled "Socialism as it was always meant to be". Hahnel's book, Economic Justice and Democracy: From Competition to Cooperation is particularly fascinating and remains a favorite book of mine. Until I see some clear evidence that participatory planning is unworkable, that it's unjust to reward people according to effort and sacrifice, or that balanced job complexes will not work, I see no reason to abandon Parecon.

 

Perhaps my second thoughts will prove to be that- just second thoughts. I can handle being wrong. I can handle being rebuked. I can handle being proven wrong and needing to owe people serious apologies. This I have done before a number of times. People who know me very well, know that I am a very honest person, that I strive to be intellectually honest, and integrity is very important to me. If I am wrong to think that some of these criticisms of Chomsky might have some substance to them, if I am wrong to think that Chomsky's critics may be right about him, that's fine! I can handle being wrong. I can handle being rebuked. I can handle being corrected. I can even freely admit to being very wrong and even giving Chomsky a serious apology for thinking that his critics might be right about him.

 

I don't particularly desire to intrude on people's times, particularly if they lead very busy lives. I can understand that some people are hesitant to engage in a long, detailed discussion. But if I am confused, if I am misled, or anything of the sort, can someone please "straighten me out". Rebuke me if you feel you need to. Criticize me if you think I deserve it. But at least try to help me understand where I might be going wrong if I am. If I am so confused, so misled, so ignorant as to deserve scorn and ridicule-I beg to know why! I can handle a rebuke and as painful for me as any sizzling rebuke may prove, I am willing to endure it if it means that I survive it knowing better.

 

A couple of years back, I used to really admire John Maynard Keynes. I considered him prophetic about the Treaty of Versailles. I read, with interest, a book by Paul Krugman, called Peddling Prosperity which made Keynesian economics sound so convincing that I began to advocate it as far as I understood it well. I believe I was wrong to do so. After reading chapters from Steven Kates' book Say's Law and the Keynesian Revolution, I am convinced that Keynes probably did not refute Say's law of markets and that his writings misunderstand it. He committed several statements to print that I have seen shown wrong, leaving me to conclude that Keynes did not refute Say's law. I am convinced that Say's law of markets is probably true (which would not justify capitalism in my opinion or in any way prove it to be equitable nor would it invalidate Parecon as a more equitable and just political economy). I cringe at the thought that history may be repeating itself. I cringe at the thought of concluding that my admiration for Noam Chomsky was just as misplaced and misguided as my admiration for John Maynard Keynes once was.

 

I am asking anyone who is deeply acquainted with Chomsky's political writings to help me to understand where Chomsky's critics are wrong. I am asking anyone who is friends with Chomsky to set the record straight. If anyone found inspiration in this blog to want to start writing defenses of Chomsky, helping to educate people about his work, about his character, and about his activism, that would be great. I am a Leftist asking other Leftists for help. I am tired of being wrong and misled if I am.

 

Is anyone willing to dialogue about this?

 

 

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Re: Defending Noam Chomsky?

By Cacioppo, Jonas at Jun 07, 2008 12:18 PM

Well, Matthew, now that I\'m unemployed -- I was a paid political canvasser for about a month, now that\'s over with -- I have some time on my hands.  I have by no means read the totality of his political work but I have read enough.  Off-hand I can list the following: The Chomsky Reader (ed. James Peck), Hegemony or Survival, Manufacturing Consent (w/ Ed Herman), pretty much everything from www.chomsky.info -- an excellent source in of itself, Failed States, Imperial Ambitions (w/ Barsamian), and obviously my two-plus years of correspondence from which I\'ve drawn a lot.  I was not intending a book of course and I have no means to produce one, but a good defense in within possibility.  I just am not sure what we could do with such a defense and who we would be convincing; if people are going to hate on Chomsky little in the way of fact will turn them aside from unreason.

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Re: Defending Noam Chomsky?

By Symonds, Richard at Jun 07, 2008 09:08 AM

"Play the ball, not the man" is good advice - not just in sport.

At this critical point in human history, perhaps we need to concentrate on the message, not the messenger.

Chomsky is human like the rest of us, therefore he is fallible - he makes mistakes. But his message, as far as I can see, has always been consistent and crystal clear - although unpalatable to many.

Personally, I think Chomsky has a laser-like moral integrity which is beyond the understanding of most of us. He also has something which many of us don\'t have - the ability to admit a mistake when he makes one...but, as far as I can see, he doesn\'t make many mistakes - especially his search (& research) for truth.

The last paragraph does not make me a \'Chomskyite groupie\', to my mind, but when we are allowed to sit on the shoulders of giants - not just Chomsky - our own horizons can be widened.

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Re: Defending Noam Chomsky?

By Symonds, Richard at Jun 07, 2008 05:03 AM

"I\'m very uneasy about the whole project. For one thing...the impression it gives...is the personalization of issues. That\'s the wrong question for a number of reasons...I mean, I get letters from people. People say how can I join your movement...And if the impression is given that there\'s some leader or spokesman or something like that organizing, galvanizing things, that\'s absolutely the wrong lesson. The lesson there is follow your leader. The lesson ought to be : take your life into your own hands."

(Noam Chomsky - "Manufacturing Consent - A Primer In Intellectual Self-Defence - Wintonick & Achbar - Black Rose Books 1994 - Copyright :  \'Necessary Illiusions\' - Page 11 Introduction) 

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agreement

By Martin, Michael at Jun 06, 2008 17:42 PM

I personally agree with R. Symonds\' take on the matter.  The documentary film, "Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media" deals very well with all of these questions.  To wit; the difference between defending one\'s freedom of speech, and defending the content of the speech, or act, etc.  It really is fundamental and perhaps this is why the \'controversy that isn\'t there\' seems to take on a life of its own.  Call it shadow-boxing or whatever.  The point is, it takes energy away from the issues and turns attention to personalities.  An old trick and, as Symonds suggests, we shouldn\'t give a dead horse CPR, no matter how loud the pig squeals.

Regards, Mm.

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Re: Defending Noam Chomsky?

By Cacioppo, Jonas at Jun 06, 2008 17:09 PM

Dear Matthew Green,

I\'ve been a reader and admirer of Chomsky\'s intellectual output for many years, and have encountered the very same questions you pose regarding the possible veracity of the counter-arguments and words from his detractors.

I do not know if I am a "Leftist" simply because I am tired of these silly categories.  Let\'s say I like provocative and informed thinking, and that there is a serious deficit of such thought on "the Right" so by default I have gravitated to "the Left" in search of it.  Like a beacon, Chomsky\'s writing sort of showed the way and I think I\'ve gained a lot of insight, sort of refracted and reflected, from what he\'s inferred, concluded, documented etc.

Over the past two years I have engaged him in lengthly (most times over the span of weeks per subject, or whatever is happening in the world that interests me and may be of interest to him) email correspondences.  One time I in fact asked about the following sore spots that checker his record: Cambodia, the Faurisson affair, and some other more trivial matters.  The key problems, for me and I suppose for you judging from your important letter here, are his supposed apologia for the Khmer Rouge and Holocaust denial.  I think there\'s really no case for the latter; it\'s been debunked repeatedly and I remember -- I also keep records -- that Chomsky was a bit ticked off to have to explain the matter, which is sort of out of character.  As for Cambodia, it\'s still murky to me.  To wit, does Chomsky on principle defend the underdog no matter who it is?  To this day I still do not know.

As for clearing up confusion about who\'s right and who\'s wrong on the facts, you are going to want to steer clear of the syncophants who (often) make up his fan base and will just take everything he says to be the Gospel.  You should also try to avoid lunatics like Mr. Horowitz, although I acknowledge that his cred as an "ex-Leftist" gives him (some) measure of authority, probably quite narrow. All in all Chomsky is not a divine figure; "people aren\'t gods," as he put it in a collection of interviews called -- appropriately given one of his chief areas of political concern -- Understanding Power (2002).  Okay, so you don\'t want to be on the wrong side; me too.  I have no time to write a book but I can create a defense if need be.  A conversation I once had with a self-described "anti-Chomskyite", I think, could be useful.  This guy brought up the same laundry list of charges: Faurisson, Khmer etc

That\'s all I can say for now.

-"Jonas"

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Re: Defending Noam Chomsky?

By Symonds, Richard at Jun 06, 2008 02:06 AM

I personally don\'t think Chomsky & his ideas need defending - he has proved himself more than able to do that himself.

Much of the criticism directed at him (& his ideas)  is a veiled form of \'character assassination\', and he simply ignores it - and so, I believe, should we.

I can\'t speak for Chomsky - and I wouldn\'t dare - but my guess is that he would discourage people from defending him, but would encourage them to channel their energies in righting wrongs, and fighting the injustices \'on their doorstep\'. 

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Re: Defending Noam Chomsky?

By Martin, Michael at Jun 05, 2008 21:24 PM

Great, Matthew.  I\'ll get on it.  Thank you for giving me an idea for how to re-introduce myself into the Z community.  I\'m very glad to say that June is my least hectic month.  I\'ll befriend you and we can keep up on each other\'s ideas.  I\'m also currently finishing a review of Anne Elizabeth Moore\'s book, "UNMARKETABLE" (2007) by New Press, which I will post presently.
Peace and Noise,
Mm.

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Jiminy Cricket!

By Martin, Michael at Jun 05, 2008 18:27 PM

For anybody interested, the proof is in the pudding.  In one way, probably the only way, such tirades as "The Anti-Chomsky Reader" (ACR) have succeeded and that\'s in obfuscating and trying to confuse the issues.  As far as "biography" there is no shortage (see film "Manufacturing Consent," books by Barsky among others), and it is ultimately another distraction.  Aside from the mud-slingers and their lack of ability to deal with the real issues, the issue is not Chomsky.  I would hope it wouldn\'t be necessary, but I have already skimmed the Anti-Chomsky Reader and, chapter by chapter, had no problem seeing the dishonesty and misrepresentations of the topics under discussion in each chapter.  I will seek out a copy of the ACR and I will post a few (as many as one requests) examples of what I mean.  Watch my Zspace and I will put up the first examples by the end of June \'08.

MeGene.

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Re: Defending Noam Chomsky?

By Symonds, Richard at Jun 05, 2008 03:16 AM

I consider Chomsky to be \'America\'s Orwell\', in more ways than one.

Like Orwell, Chomsky is difficult to \'pigeon-hole\'.

My personal view is that the old \'Left v Right\' political conflicts should be consigned to the 20th century dustbin of history - the conflict is as obsolete as Betamax v VHS, and has no place in the challenges of the 21st century.

The conflict now is Down v Up - not Leftist v Rightist.

We must wake up, wise up and grow up....fast.

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Re: Defending Noam Chomsky?

By Symonds, Richard at Jun 05, 2008 02:50 AM

Does this help ?

http://gatwickcity.phpbb3now.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=500

 

Richard W. Symonds

GATWICK CITY OF IDEAS

England

 

 

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