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Do Not "Move On": On Bush-Cheney, the Libby Case and Impeachment

By Paul Street at Jul 10, 2007


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"MOVE ON" 

I recently spoke about impeachment to a major Democratic political operative. 

I didn't raise the topic.  He did.  

The current president's war policy, I commented after a talk the operative gave, is not merely "mistaken."   It's "something much worse than a strategic blunder," I said.  "It is monumentally illegal and immoral.  This is high-state criminality of the worst kind," I added, noting that its victims included hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis, not just 3600 United States GIs (1).    

The operative winced when I said "criminality." He knew I was correct in my evaluation of the White House's war on Iraq.    "If we impeach Bush," he said curtly, "that's all we'll be doing in the next year." Discussion over.  

The operative did not elaborate but the implications were clear: impeachment would distract attention from the Democrats' drive to take the White House back in '08.  

The nation would be focused on Bush's crimes instead of opportunities for change associated with the Democratic presidential campaign.  The Democratic Party would be mired in removing a bad old president instead of clearing the way for a good new one (a Democrat).

The operative was telling me to back off and "move on." 

Sorry.  I admit it: I can't move on and off impeachment.   I think it is essential to legally remove Bush and Cheney before they finish their second terms and before they wreak yet more unimaginable imperial and plutocratic havoc.    

Regarding Iraq, They: 

 * lied this country into an illegal, unprovoked war of aggression (the supreme crime under Nuremburg principles) with blatantly fraudulent claims about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. 

 * fabricated (with no small help from dominent war and entertainment media, to be sure) in the minds of the American people a false link between Saddam Hussein, al Qaeda, Iraq and 9/11. 

* falsely claimed that the U.S. was engaged in an effort to spread freedom and democracy to Iraq and the Middle East.  

* fired generals who told them that their plans for Iraq were seriously inadequate.  

As the popular MSNBC political talk show host Keith Olbermann (Olbermann 2007 - thank you to David Peterson for making me aware of this source) recently noted in a special commentary calling for Bush's resignation, they have:  

* "caus[ed] in Iraq the needless deaths of 3,586 of our brothers and sons, and sisters and daughters, and friends and neighbors" (too bad doctrinal requirements compel Olbermann to delete the vastly larger number of Iraqi victims)[1].    

 * "subvert[ed] the Constitution, not in some misguided but sincerely-motivated struggle to combat terrorists, but to stifle dissent." 

 * "foment[ed] fear among [their] own people,...creating the very terror [they] claim to have fought." 

* "exploit[ed] that unreasoning fear, the natural fear of [their] own people who just want to live their lives in peace, as a political tool to slander [their] critics and libel [their] opponents" (Olbermann 2007).  

Now Bush stands justly accused of "giving, through [Cheney],  carte blanche to Mr. [I. Lewis] Libby, to help defame Ambassador Joseph Wilson by any means necessary, to lie to Grand Juries and Special Counsel and before a court, in order to protect the mechanisms and particulars of that defamation, with [the] guarantee that Libby would never see prison, and, in so doing, as Ambassador [Joseph] Wilson himself phrased it here last night, of becoming an accessory to the obstruction of justice" (Olbermann 2007).   

FALL GUY: A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE I. LEWIS (SCOOTER) LIBBY CASE  

The Libby case should remind us of our duty to impeach.  Does anyone doubt that Bush decided to commute Libby's 30-month sentence in return for his silence?   The Cheney- Bush administration decided at the highest levels to illegally punish former Ambassador Joseph Wilson for daring to tell the truth about "one aspect of the [administration's] fictional justifications for the war" (Toobin 2007). As legal scholar Jeffrey Toobin noted in The New Yorker after a federal jury found Libby guilty of perjury and obstructing justice last March, "it was clear that the business of discrediting the Wilsons was a group undertaking, and it's therefore easy to see why the jury struggled with laying blame for the whole operation on Libby." One of the jurors noted after the trial that the defense had rightly portrayed Libby as a "fall guy" for Cheney and others (Toobin 2007).  

The Libby case merits brief review. In 2002 the CIA sent Joseph Wilson, a former U.S. Ambassador to Gabon, to Niger to investigate reports that Saddam Hussein had attempted to buy uranium yellowcake, a critical ingredient in the making of nuclear weapons, in that nation.  Wilson found no such attempted purchase. He returned to the U.S. and said nothing about his Niger (non-)findings in the public sphere.  

After George W. Bush cited the nonexistent African yellowcake connection in his 2003 State of the Union Address, however, Wilson began to publicly contradict the president's false "intelligence" claim.  Wilson's efforts included a July 6, 2003 New York Times Op-Ed that enraged Cheney and other war-mad administration officials. Part of the administration's vengeful response to Wilson's "treason" included telling reporters that Wilson's Niger trip had been dreamed up as a silly junket by his wife – the highly placed CIA agent Valerie Wilson. This false story line involved illegally revealing Valerie Wilson's CIA identity.  Valerie Wilson's CIA cover was formally "blown" in a July 14th 2003 editorial by the vicious right-wing columnist Robert Novak. The administration officials who disclosed Valerie Wilson's CIA identity included top White House political aide Karl Rove and Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage but the leak likely occurred with the advance knowledge of Cheney and other administration officials, possibly including Bush.   

Under pressure from congressional Democrats, federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald was appointed to investigate the leak.   His prosecution ended up focusing solely on the hawkish neoconservative Libby, Cheney's chief of staff, who lied to protect other White House officials.  Libby was certainly promised that his sentence would be commuted and his fines paid (by rich Republicans) in return for deceiving and otherwise hindering federal investigators. He may also have been promised a full presidential pardon.  

Early last March, Libby was convicted (after ten full days of jury deliberation) of lying to federal investigators and a grand jury and of obstructing the government's probe into the exposure of Valerie Wilson's CIA identity.  On July 2, 2007, the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled that Libby must be incarcerated while appealing his conviction.   U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton had earlier refused to grant Libby freedom during appeal since the evidence of Libby's guilt was "overwhelming." Libby was looking at 30 months in low-security prison and a $250,000 fine.  

The sentence and imprisonment order came down after a large number of neoconservative politicos and "intellectuals" (joined by a few liberal and Democratic Washington insiders) launched a major campaign advocating leniency for the "fallen hero" Libby.  

Literally within hours of the July 2nd decision, George "The Decider" Bush commuted Libby's sentence. He "did so," MSNBC's Keith Olbermann noted, "even before the appeals process was complete; did so without as much as a courtesy consultation with the Department of Justice; did so despite what James Madison — at the Constitutional Convention — said about impeaching any president who pardoned or sheltered those who had committed crimes 'advised by' that president; did so without the slightest concern that even the most detached of citizens must look at the chain of events and wonder: To what degree was Mr. Libby told: break the law however you wish—the President will keep you out of prison?" (Olbermann 2007)  

Bush commuted Libby in defiance of "the white-collar sentencing guidelines set by his own administration" (Rich 2007).   As the New York Times reported last Sunday, he also flouted the "consistent and narrow standard" he used when issuing pardons and commutations as the Governor of Texas during the 1990s.   Bush's gubernatorial standard was that pardons and commutations were to be limited to cases of clearly demonstrable innocence (Liptak 2007). In "Scooter's" case, however, Bush did not question the guilty verdict, only the extremity of the sentence.    

As liberal Times columnist Frank Rich notes, Bush's decision to commute Libby's sentence without a pardon is all about covering his and Cheney's richly impeachment-worthy asses:  "...Mr. Bush's highest priority is always to protect himself. Had the president wanted [simply] to placate the [neoconservative] Weekly Standard crowd, he would have given Libby a full pardon.   That he served up a commutation instead is revealing of just how worried the president is about the beans Mr. Libby could spill about his an Dick Cheney's use of prewar intelligence."  "Valerie Wilson still has a civil suit pending.  The Democratic inquisitor in the House, Henry Waxman, still has the uranium hoax underlying this case at the top of his agenda as an active investigation.  A commutation puts up roadblocks by keeping Mr. Libby's appeal conviction alive and his Fifth Amendment rights intact.  He can't testify without risking self-incrimination" (Rich 2007)    

 

"STRATEGIZING IN THE FACE OF AN ONGOING CRIME"  

The aforementioned political operative is a very smart and progressive fellow, with a strong labor background. I know where he's coming from. I certainly would not expect him to jump on board the impeachment (or better, the war-crime-trial) bandwagon.  It wouldn't make any sense for him.  

Still, I was unfortunately reminded by his comment of former federal prosecutor Elizabeth de la Vega's cogent argument against congressional, Democratic and legal inaction in (non-) response to Bush-Cheney's hyper-criminality in her 2006 book United States v. George W. Bush (written before the Democrats rode popular antiwar sentiment to a majority in Congress in the 2006 mid-terms):   "For over a year now, polls have shown that the majority of Americans believe President Bush deliberately misrepresented prewar intelligence.   Executive branch officials who deliberately mislead Congress and the public intending to influence congressional action have committed a federal crime.   This means that roughly 100 million Americans believe Bush committed a crime, yet most, like Kitty Genovese's neighborhoods (2), are just passive bystanders – although not…due to indifference." 

"Many of us are just watching it happen because we feel powerless to stop it.  Hundreds of thousands of people have in effect called 911, but not even Democrats in Congress have been willing to answer the phone.   It is not that they don't have enough information; it is, our Democratic representatives say, because it is not good political strategy."  

"The proposition that it is not good political strategy to insist that government official obey the law is highly debatable.   More important, strategizing in the face of an ongoing crime is wrong" (de la Vega 2006, p. 19).

Bush and Cheney have raised for us the question that Archibald Cox posed to us in October of 1973 after Richard Nixon fired Cox for his role in investigating the Watergate break-in: shall we live under a government of laws or a government of men?    As Glen Ford recently observed in Black Agenda Report, the claim of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her cowed congressional supporters (including all but four black congresspersons) that there's "not enough time left in Bush's and Cheney's terms to bother with impeaching them" is a "lie that flies in the face of history. Richard Nixon's impeachment proceedings," Ford notes, "took only three months, after which he resigned in disgrace. It took only four months for Bill Clinton to go through the entire process, and be acquitted" (Ford 2007).  The Congress did not function any worse than normal on other policy matters during previous impeachment dramas.   

"CONGRESS MAY AS WELL GO HOME" 

We should also factor in the question of what we are saying to future imperial presidencies by not exercising our basic constitutional duty to purge Cheney and Bush. "Impeachment, like all criminal processes," Ford adds, "is designed not just to punish current lawbreakers, but to prevent future criminality. George Bush and his gang have been running a massive criminal enterprise for more than six years, effectively nullifying the Constitution. The Constitution does not automatically come back to life after the two top criminals leave. It must be enforced, or it is just an old, moldy piece of paper. The question is not whether there is time to impeach Bush and Cheney, but whether   there is time to rescue the rule of law" (Ford 2007). 

Bill Clinton's Secretary of State Madeline Albright once candidly and criminally commented that the United States had no business accumulating its unmatched stash of military hardware if it didn't intend to use it.   A similar if non-murderous point could be made about Article II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution. Impeachment is on the books because the nations' founders had good reasons to fear the remarkable potential for disastrous abuses of power that the Constitution created for Presidents who can be removed through "popular" selection on one day four years after inauguration.    

Bush and Cheney have justified that fear like few previous White House occupants. As David Swanson of "After Downing Street" recently noted, Bush has by now committed a vast array of technically impeachable offenses in 12 criminal categories – "not 12 crimes," Ford adds, "but 12 whole categories of crimes, each containing many separate instances and counts of crimes, any one of which is enough to send Bush and Cheney back where they came from before January, 2009."  "If Cheney-Bush can't be impeached," Ford reminds us, "nobody can… If laws can be broken at will, there is no law. Congress may as well stop enacting them, and go home, themselves."   

* This is a slightly corrected and retitled version of an essay that appeared on the ZNet top page yesterday.

 NOTES  

1. Like "mainstream" (dominant corporate) media, most of the leading Democratic candidates seem doctrinally unwilling to join the officially marginalized Dennis Kucinich in acknowledging the remarkable extent to which Iraqis have suffered under criminal U.S. assault during (and before) the launching of "Operation Iraqi Freedom." Recently, however, Chris Dodd went up to a supporter holding a sign decrying the war's killing of 3500 U.S. GIs and reminded them that the invasion had also killed "70,000" Iraqis – a vast understatement but a shocking departure from standard doctrine nonetheless.

 

 2. "Kitty Genovese was viciously assaulted, stabbed three times, and finally killed, on the way to her Queens, New York, home one night in 1964.   Thirty-eight neighbors heard or watched her ordeal, but no one called the police until the attack was essentially over.  The murder was universally seen as a horrifying example of modern-day indifferences to the plight of others" (de la Vega 2006, p.18).  

SOURCES 

Elizabeth de la Vega 2006. United States v. George W. Bush (New York: Seven Stories, 2006). 

Glen Ford 2007.  "If Cheney-Bush Can't Be Impeached, Nobody Can," Black Agenda Report (June 20 2007), available online at   http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=258&Itemid=44  

Adam Liptak 2007.  "For Libby, Bush Seemed to Alter His Texas Policy." New York Times, 8 July 2007, sec. 1, p.4.  

Keith Olbermann 2007.  "Special Comment: Bush, Cheney Should Resign," Countdown with Keith Olbermann, MSNBC (July 3 2007), available online at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19588942/

Frank Rich 2007.  "A Profile in Cowardice." New York Times, 8 July 2007, sec. 4. p.12. 

Jeffrey Toobin 2007. "Verdicts." The New Yorker (March 19 2007), pp. 59-60.  

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Prisoners of a false sens of liberty

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 16, 2007 11:06 AM

sorry double post

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Prisoners of a false sens of liberty

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 16, 2007 10:47 AM

Pangeae, nearly half the people I know here would be dead without our canadian system. I have a neighbor whom received a heart more than a year ago, he was 7 hours on the operating table: He had a second life, its a complete miracle to see him alive. My father in Law would be dead, and many of my wife relatives in their 70s receiving heart pacers and medications. I can't see how american percive a sens of liberty without free health care and how come it is proud to be american.. no free healt care is a gross shame upon the congress..

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US democracy

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 16, 2007 00:41 AM

The problem US citizens is facing is basically (with not many exceptions) that they 1) vote for a criminal that will gladly sell out the public's interests to the highest bidder; or 2) don't vote at all That is why the US democracy is in the state it's in. If there were real alternatives I'm sure people would vote for them. But as there aren't any, they don't. No matter who the US public vote for, the Business Party wins. They have created a can't-lose system. The corporate elite wins every time. And the US public loses every time. "Leader of the free world" indeed. Pangaea Oslo, Norway

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re democracy

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 15, 2007 09:24 AM

Pangeae wrote far far away in Nwhoreway... "Democracy in the US of A perhaps isn't dead yet. But it is laying in a ditch with a broken back" I have watched SICKO ( on my TV ) from questioning american Michael Moore..Democracy suffering from a broken back may be but its closer to a irreparable quadraplegic back than anything..I could believ the corruption of the republicans, the democrats, the whole congress on the issue of health care. people dies every day because of this corrupted democracy, its scandalous and barbaric and yet you can witness this US, this pseudo democracy, these corrupt politicians discuss other countries human rights, and lauch war upon them.. The US health care system kills more people than than Taliban or even Saddam Hussein was accused. Its not just the Bushes, Clinton and Obama , that should be empeached, its the whole freaking Congress. It does look like corrupted politicians stoled liberty in the US..Americans should remember that each time they votes for one of these idiots that may be one of their neighbor may die..

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Gravel and campaign

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 14, 2007 05:34 AM

I disagree about Gravel. He's got a pretty good record (fantastic compared to most, after all he was central in releasing the Pentagon Papers). Of course he won't get elected. Any progressive candidates are "unelectable" as it's impossible to raise the money needed in this so-called election. Add in the vote-fraud documented by Palast, and it gets even worse. Gravel is actually a pretty good speaker with charisma, but as he seems to get a bit agitated at times, he doesn't perform as well as he should in front of the camera. If he was a contender he would probably get the "Dean"-treatment. Kucinich is a good guy. A shame he is also impossible to get elected for the above reasons. If Nader decides to run, he'll be my favourite. He'll never get elected either, but he's a really good guy with very sound policies. He's got a record nobody elected can come close to. Thanks to him we have FOIA, for example. It's just an illusion that there are elections in the United States of Advertising. There is the issue of vote fraud, which is serious enough. But more importantly there is in effect a one-party system in place. This Party controls all aspects of the election, even the official debates. It's impossible to get on for 3rd party candidates. To work within the two wings of the Party is also nigh on impossible. You need the money from the movers and shakers in Washington to be able to run a "good" campaign. Unless you lick their back, you won't get funded. That means you can't get elected if you run on policies the US public are in favour of (as corporate America are not). It's just a selection process of what talking head will run the country the next 4 to 8 years (as revealed by the microphone chat after a Democratic debate). You can be the best guy in the world, with the best intentions in the world. You simply can not get elected. There are too many hoops you have to jump through. Even if you start out as a nice guy with good intentions - by the end of it you will have taken money from Corporate America, and hence sold your soul to them. Democracy in the US of A perhaps isn't dead yet. But it is laying in a ditch with a broken back. Pangaea Oslo, Norway

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campaign reflections

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 13, 2007 21:46 PM

Gravel is not a serious Left candidate. He makes some interesting and entertaining points ("these people over here scare me," referring to the top three Democratic candidates), sometimes left (especially on foreign policy) but it really is a cranky old man routine with zero money or organization or close to it. He often stumbles in debates to an extent that is embarassing and ends up sounding off the wall. He's kind of a joke; it's not fair but it's the truth and I think he ends up being used to discredit the idea of a Left in the debates. I'm not an expert on campaigns but I can absolutely and with full confidence tell you that Gravel is an incredibly marginal non-player and will stay that way. 

Now Kucinich is a different story. I pay attention to him and wish he was more viable; I spoke for him at a rally once (it was by accident, at the last moment but I was happy to do it).

I like Kucinich (who has put forth an impeachment bill) but I must report from Iowa (big political center of these campaigns because of its early Caucuses)there's very few people this time talking about doing much of anything for him.

It's a different feeling than '04. I get the sense that more progressive/populist people who want to stick it to the corporate-center types within the primary process are rallying around Edwards.

Within the harsh limits that are well known at ZNet, this is shaping up to be a rather wild/open/unpredictable presidential race...very hard to call, though my purely intellectual bet (who I'd put money on but would never give money to) has been Barockstar Obama for some time...part of it is a gut feeling, but polling and campaign finance data are looking good for him. And the media is totally in love with him - something you can't buy. This is not my preference at all. He's positioned well.  And the winner of the Democratic primaries should be the favorite in November '08 ....

 

But we've had two straight stolen Republican presidential elections according to Greg Palast, who I don't question very often.

 

 

 

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Kucinich

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 13, 2007 20:58 PM

Why do you think he is nuts? Which of his policies are "nuts"? What do you think about Gravel? Personally I'd rank Gravel as the best candidate, with Kucinich 2nd and Paul 3rd. I have serious problems with some of Paul's policies, but compared to all candidates he is running against, he looks like a saint. But so would almost Hitler, so it's not saying much. This clip sums it up quite nicely. Pangaea Oslo, Norway

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problem with american wars

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 13, 2007 20:54 PM

Paul the main problem is that many americans believe that the US economy is being propulsed by wars.. the truth is only a small percentages of americans make a profit from it ; ie corporate america.. The average Joe, the real american does not,, price have jumped higher at the gas pumps, products derived from oil are pricier; over all real american have lost. Once publicly funded programs have possibly disaspeared like they did over here and worst americans are more far from an equitable health system than they were before the war.. and lets not get confused here, when I mention real americans I dont mean the small vaccuous percentage of american owning or being part of corporations, I mean americans who have to awake in the morning to go to work and feed their famillies.. I am talking about these americans who do not have health coverage and are taken hostage by the medical world, the pharmaceutical empires and the US government.. In truth , the only thing an Obama and Clinton would do is drag other countries further down the holes of death and sorrow and at the same time they would cut the social structures that enable a great number of americans to see above the hole of poverty.. each american will end up indebted for monies we are not able to quantify yet, it will be an aggravated disaster and the continuation of the debts commenced by the Bushes legacies.

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Iraq

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 13, 2007 20:51 PM

A little brutal honesty: the next administration's job ... will be to balance continued imperial presence/control with a measure of populace-pleasing "withdrawal."
In my opinion this is correct. Historically the Democrats are better at this than the Republicans - perhaps especially the Clinton administration. Though the attack on Kosova also was outright aggression and did not pass through the SC (if memory server me right), Clinton did not get the treatment Bush gets. Clinton was simply better at the diplomacy and propaganda game. Some say the difference between the Dems and Reps is that they do the same, but the Reps are honest about it. Far from true this time around, but they are much worse at hiding what they do than the Dems. USA will not pull out of Iraq. 71% of the US people want all troops out by April (and the House just voted for this, surely to be vetoed by the Dictator in Chief). But neither political party (or wings of the Party) is in favour of this policy (which also happens to be the international consensus). In fact, please name all senators that are in favour of a full withdrawal of Iraq. Assuming we are able to come up with a few names, are these also in favour of corporate withdrawal from Iraq? Going even further, are they in favour of withdrawing US troops from Arabia altogether? We have to face the facts here. Despite the Democrats talking about ending the war/withdrawing, they are not in favour of this. This is very obvious from their lack of action on the matter. But they have also said so quite honestly. They want to move some troops out of Iraq and to neighbouring countries. Out of harm's way, but near enough so it's easy to move back in if the vital interests (read: oil) are at stake. As long as the Hydrocarbon (oil) Law is not passed in Iraq (and thereby handing over the control of oil from Iraq to effectively the US), Bush will not pull a single US soldier out of Iraq. He recently indicated he would rather send more soldiers, than pull people out. He's got his eyes set on the oil, and will not budge before it is secured. Doesn't matter what the costs are in US and Arab lives (not to mention the economic and political costs), unless he gets the oil, he will not move. It's no coincidence the operation was first called "Operation Iraqi Liberation" (OIL). Slip of the tongue of course, quickly changed when they noticed the error. I won't be surprised at all if the US still occupies Iraq in 2017. Pangaea Oslo, Norway

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Follow up

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 13, 2007 19:56 PM

Take that LiberalBias - a (Canadian) vote for the empeachment of Obama. For what it's worth, without getting crazy about it or falling in love with U.S. electoral politics, I actually do want a Democrat instead of a Republican in the White House in '09 and hope (since it can't be Dennis) it's John Edwards, who is running to Hillary-Obama's left.

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re let go and cheer up

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 13, 2007 12:17 PM

democrats won't accomplish anything you said, they are , along the republicans, sided with the rich against the poor. Paul Street said it rigth about Iraq, Obama and the rests, you can either believe the bullshit people who exploit you or you can believe the truth people like the znet writers tell you for absolutely free.. Personally, I'd empeach Obama for his stances on Iran.

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Common Imperial Sense

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 13, 2007 11:56 AM

A little brutal honesty: the next administration's job (and let's be honest, there will be no impeachment and that could mean an attack on Iran) will be to balance continued imperial presence/control with a measure of populace-pleasing "withdrawal." What passes for withdrawal in mainstream discussion is removal (from Iraq but not from the region or of course from basic imperial duty) of combat troops but of course they have built permanent military installations, will maintain air/sea terror (I imagine there will be increasing reliance on air violence, which tends to be more indiscriminate in who it kills), will keep the massive hyper-fortified embassy complex and special "anti-terror"/rapid response forces. The stupendous Iraqi oil reserves (opened for Western multinational exploitation by the invasion's Petroleum Law) must be protected - kept out of the wrong hands (including that of the not-so sovereign Iraqis), that is. The notion of letting the "liberated" Mesopotamians ("hey, cheer up we killed your tyrant...we came over here sacrificing our blood and treasure just to help you guys out because that's what we do, ok?") doing whatever they want will all "their" super-strategic black gold is just unthinkable to imperial planners and policymakers in Washington. Talking about all this is taboo and marks you as a member of the lunatic fringe in the U.S. but is elementary common sense is most of the morally and politically cognizant world beyond the Armed Madhouse.

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re let go and cheer up

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 13, 2007 08:33 AM

Liberal Bias, The US is never going to pull out Iraq..its out the equation..

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Let go and cheer up

By Libbias, Liberalbias at Jul 12, 2007 21:46 PM

The "operative" sounds like the Obama campaign to me but he could be with any of the the Dems except Kucinich (who is nuts as far as I'm concerned). He's right.  People don't need the drama.  They need to focus on the issues: out of Iraq, health care, and ending poverty. I'm a left-liberal Democrat.  I hate the war and wish the Democratic Party could have moved faster and stronger against it but it can't.  You should move off impeachment.  Cheer up. Help is on the way in November '08.  Nobody wants a revolution. This is America.

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Media misinformation is part of why the U.S. is a failed state

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 12, 2007 15:15 PM

Okay Pangaea. Here's a great  line from Chomsky back in the Vietnam era: "the level of culture that can be achieved in the United States is a matter of life and death for large masses of suffering humanity" (NC, "Some Thoughts on Intellectuals and the Schools," Harvard Educational Review, 1966). How true.

I'm going into some of the relevant (I hope) analysis...the basic question being why isn't the U.S. the organizer's paradise it seeminglly ought to be.

The corporate-state media bubble is a significant part of the answer. Americans tend to be terribly misinformed.

One small example among millions. While a large majority of (a representative sample of) U.S. citizens told pollsters commissioned by the (establishment) Chicago Council on Foreign Relations in October 2004 that the U.S. should leave Iraq "if that's what the majority of Iraqis want," probably very few U.S. citizens ever learned that most Iraqis wanted the U.S. out quickly (as the British Ministry of Defense found in its own commissioned poll).

Few probably knew about their own majority opinion (on leaving if the Iraqis wanted that) and the Iraqi opinion was barely reported (if at all) in U.S. media. I learned about it in The Guardian (UK) if memory serves me correctly.

Speaking of October 2004, later that month Greg Palast's BBC show Newsnight reported that the Republican National Committee had put together special "caging lists" meant to enable the systematic wiping out of of black presidential votes (very predominantly Democratic/for Kerry) in the imminent 2004 presidential election. According to BBC, Palast notes in his remarkable new book Armed Madhouse (NY: Plume/Penguin, 2007), "it was the most-watched story around the globe that week. But not in the USA. Only one single U.S. television network mentioned what looked like a massive attack planned against Black voters. ABC Television's web site informed its patrons that 'The entire BBC story was more or less entirely incorrect.' Really? ABC's source: Mindy Tucker Fletcher [spokesperson for the Bush-Cheney reelection campaign!!!]. For the USA, it was a story over and buried" (Palast 2007, p. 205).

What Palast relates there happens over and over again.  The overworked, debt-ridden sub-citizens of the "world's greatest democracy" are under a shocking full-and-accurate-information-embargo that undercuts their capacity to act on their often progressive beliefs.

Iraq is a classic example of course. As I argued in a recent ZNet piece titled "Dominant Media Taboos:"

Dominant (“mainstream”) U.S. media coverage and commentary on Iraq continues to be hopelessly crippled by doctrinal observance of taboos against discussing five basic and intimately interrelated aspects of so-called “Operation Iraqi Freedom”: 

 1. The monumentally criminal nature of the invasion, which involved (in the words of the 2005 Istanbul Declaration) “planning, preparing, and waging the supreme crime of a war of aggression in contravention of the United Nations Charter and the Nuremberg Principles.”   

2. The brazenly imperialist and colonial nature of the occupation, which is richly continuous with earlier U.S. behavior within the beyond the Middle East and provides critical context for understanding why U.S. soldiers die on a regular basis in Iraq (where Americans are understandably seen as unlawful invaders).  

3. The racist nature of the occupation, expressed in the false conflation between al Qaeda and a small group of predominantly Saudi hijackers on one hand and the broad Arab and Muslim worlds on the other hand.  This racism has found expression also in U.S. ground forces' recurrent description of Iraqi civilians and resistance fighters as “hajis” and “towel heads”(among other terrible designations) and in many Americans' insistence on describing the entire Middle East as a den of primitive, barbarian and enemies of modern “civilization.”  

4. The full and overwhelming extent of Iraqi civilian casualties, including more than 700,000 dead by now.  The Iraqi body count dwarfs the U.S. death toll in Iraq , but dominant U.S. media remains primarily and narcissistically obsessed with U.S. fatalities in Mesopotamia . The mostly civilian Arab victims of U.S. imperial violence (a lovely expression of America 's noble commitment to “civilization”) are unworthy victims of the Iraq War as far as dominant U.S. media is concerned.    

5. The critical role of the American Empire Project's longstanding core concern with the control of Middle Eastern oil in shaping the decision to invade Iraq and in ensuring that the U.S. will not completely or truly withdraw from that illegally occupied nation or indeed the region anytime soon, whichever corporate-imperial party happens to hold power in Washington.

 

In yesterday's New York Times the noxious neoliberal columnist Thomas Friedman did a piece about the United States supposed only two options in Iraq --- stay or leave --- and never mentioned oil as a relevant part of that discussion. We can be sure that petroleum is a dominant concern for the U.S. planners beneath the fairly tale version of current events that Friedman et al. are in charge of transmitting to the bewildered herd.   

The press is terrible but other ideological U.S. institutions are also critical in kepeing people cowed and clueless.  A big one is  academia.  I am one of a considerable number of people with (a) respectable doctorates; (b) a history of very strong adjunct teaching evaluations and (c) a big publication record (with officially respectable publishing houses [not "self-publication" places] including a large number of technically "academic" publications) who is for all intents and purposes banned from serious consideration for tenured academic positions in the U.S. because I am an openly radical and public writer/speaker.

Students must not be exposed to frightening radicals (intellectual terrorists like yours truly, who once got called into a department  chair's office for offending Western sensibilities by daring to use the word "terrorism" to describe an aspect of U.S. foreign policy to a classroom) in post-9/11 America.  

For an example of how U.S. media treats activists who break through the thought and feeling embargo on anti-imperial activism see a piece I just did on the Iowa Occupation Project's excellent work (I tagged along) in Cedar Rapids, IA .  

Academic search committees take note: I not only write against the imperial power structures before which you so obsequiously and shamefully grovel;  I also occasionally join along in actions against those structures... even..... against (horrors!) "liberal Democrats" like Tom Harkin. Your masters and your advanced indoctrination command that you send my vita to the recyling bin at once!

 

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USA

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 12, 2007 13:44 PM

It is a fairly standard upbeat reply, but at the same time it's the only way to go I think, if any "revolutionary" changes are to stay in place, and not fall to a "counter-revolution" (as is fairly normal). It's very hard to achieve though, but one have to have hope for the future. There are so many bad news that it's very easy to get depressed and lose hope. US society is perhaps more atomized than many other societies, so that is a barrier harder to overcome. I would think it's much easier to mount mass-movements in Latin America, for example, than in the US due to this reason alone. It's not easy, but it has to be easier in the US than in, say, Ukraine or Mexico. Of course business also have a tighter hold of institutions in the US, better means of coercion etc, but other aspects are better in the US. In the end, though, I lean on Chomsky's words: that society generally is more civilized now than in the past. Information is much easier accessible etc etc. Would be interesting to see a proper analysis of this. Comparisons between countries and so forth. Pangaea Oslo, Norway

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By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 12, 2007 10:41 AM

Well, Pangaea, you know,... this is the standard lecture. I've made it myself and will probably do so again in the future, but there has to be a stronger analysis of the distinctive U.S. situation to inform better activism in the belly of the beast.It's not accidental of course that barriers to effective democracy are particularly high (BTW an extreme democracy deficit can just demoralize people and feed retreat into privatism where hope for effective actions is restricted to the pursuit of personal/family goals) in the U.S.: there's so much at stake (domesticaly and globally...given U.S. power, this is the country where a left-democratic upheaval or revolution would have the greatest impact on humanity) and there's a distinctive democratic/free speech tradition here that has long incentivized the ruling business class to hone the science of thought control (informed by the distinctively U.S.-generated science/industry of mass consumer advertising) and to develop other methods for "taking the risk out of democracy" (Alex Carey). I approach the elites and their system with deadly seriousness and have been around too long here in the belly to just nod along with the pep talk, but yes people must never give up and should take inspiration and counsel from social movements in more truly oppeessed parts of the world system.

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By Evtekstili, Nurceyiz at Jul 12, 2007 08:34 AM

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Organizational work

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 11, 2007 21:45 PM

I agree with you that it's hard to really make an impact in the US. But my point is that there aren't any other Western countries where you have a better atmosphere for creating just these mass-movements for progressive change than in the USA. The points you note about people being atomized, lacking time and not having faith in their actions having any impact are valid. We all suffer from it. But when the margin between public policy and public opinion is as great as it is in the US, it is easier to build a mass-movement than in a country where the gap is smaller. We also shouldn't overlook the fact that mass-protest movements have appeared in other countries, where also people lack time to organize, and even live under oppression. And we managed to gather millions of people for the pre-Iraq war demonstrations. I am sure there is potential. The job is for organizers to connect with the people and make them act. This is the hard part. By all means, it's not an easy task: it takes lots of effort, time and hard work. But it can be done. It's been done in other countries, and there isn't anything special about Americans that make it impossible for them to seek justice and a chair at the table. America once was a pioneer for justice (or so I'm told..). I'm sure Americans want it to become that place again. If enough people work towards that goal, it is achievable. Nothing is set in stone in this world. People make rules and institutions. People can overturn these very same rules and institutions. Pangaea Oslo, Norway

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If only it was...

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 11, 2007 20:49 PM

"The climate in the US now is actually a dream for organizers." But Pangaea...it's not. You would think it might be on the basis of the democracy deficit (the gap...chasm really...between (1) U.S. public opinion and (2) actual U.S. public policy) but the more important gap may be the activism gap: the gap (chasm really) between (3) the truly outrageous (one would think) democracy deficit (which is I suppose as bad if not worse than ever today) and (4) the willingness/capacity of citizens to do anything about it (also at extremes and no doubt that is more than coincidence). I am never surprised by the democracy deficit. There's nothing mysterious about it for people who possess elementary Marxian or even basic liberal perspectives on the conflict between capitalism (business rule) and democracy. The top one percent owns 40 percent of the wealth in the country (and a higher perc. of the politicians and policymakers) so...no mystery. What knocks me out and requires some more careful demystification is the second gap, which is also very dangerous and of course intimately related to the first. We have progressive ideas and sentiments here without progressive institutions to channel them and translate them into public action and policy. We have a discrediting/delegitimization of the public sphere, public policy and politics. We have massive popular atomization, fragmentation and alienation and hopelessness and cynicsim and widespread fantastic/mystical/religious and otherwise irrational belief...rampant individualism/privatism....a critical shortage of accurate information....chronic overwork and related critical time shortage (democracy requires free time)...and numerous other factors that combine into a giant simultaneous equations system of citizen marginality. We have people and society that are severely crippled by an especially vicious version of core state capitlaism. This is why my friend (a former SDS member) is reduced to fantasizing about coups by the Joint Chiefs. U.S. Americans by the millions think and act as if policy is beyond their concern and/or sphere of influence. Staterments to pollsters are interesting and hopeful but its a very passive act talking to a survey researcher in the privacy of one's home and the surveys don't generally capture whether the respondents (a) care enough about their ideas to actually do anything about them or (b) think there is any chance that anything could be done in accord with their beleifs. As David was saying the U.S. power elite operates with remarkably little restraint at home and so the world outside should take note. This could change. My sense is that getting a better grasp of the precise and complex ways that people are held back from acting collectively and publicly in accord with personally and privately held democratic beliefs will contribute to the change that is required.

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Re Double wow..

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 11, 2007 19:14 PM

Trolls are getting annoying with their repeated idiocies.. there were once a troll named walter k and... I better shut up before i get shot.. :(

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Impeachment

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 11, 2007 17:57 PM

I've been discussing this very issue on a totally different forum, and am naturally strongly in favour of it. If what Bush and Cheney have done does not constitute "high crimes", nothing does. One can have tactical discussions on the matter, but there is no doubt what is the right thing to do from a moral and just point of view. We're dealing with Nazi-style criminals here (except from outright extermination campaigns). I don't think any of us would want the Nazi leadership roaming the streets (overlooking the fact most of them would be dead of old age by now). But to my point. Keeping in mind the seriousness of the question, I think these numbers are quite impressive. It would indeed be interesting to see a comparison with Nixon (Clinton's case was ridiculous, but interesting to compare nonetheless). If we overlook the fact that most Democrats would be smeared by such an impeachment themselves, as the voted for the war, and most still support it, the reason they are not impeaching is tactical. They want to keep frying Bush in the Iraq-fat until the next election. They have to hope people forget they got elected on getting out of Iraq (and screwed the people), so they can go about and do the same again. That is the only way they can win. A new poll says that 71% of Americans want all troops out of Iraq by April 2008, so there is no doubt where the US public stands on this issue. The great majority also think the US presence in Iraq is creating more terrorists willing to attack the US (hence increasing the threat of terror). Bush is strangely seen as "strong on terror". If the Democrats really wanted to whip him around, they could destroy this mirage and walk home another election victory. Hit them with their medicine: attack them where they are strong. The climate in the US now is actually a dream for organizers. The people is strongly opposed to both political wings of the Party on many majour issues. The Iraq war is just one of them. The only thing holding back a 3rd party shooting up the polls right now is the electoral system over there. I should be a peace a cake to get 10%+ if people didn't have to vote tactically. If that meant 10% representatives for a 3rd party in office, we'd really be steamrolling. Pangaea Oslo, Norway

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Double wow

By Is, History at Jul 11, 2007 16:53 PM

I actually think that Paul Street's work is quite impressive and make sure to check the zmag blog every few days so that I don't miss a new post. One of the things I remarked on with a co-workera few days ago is the surprising number of wingnuts Street attracts, perhaps because he'll try to honestly respond to them, but his trenchant analysis makes the occasional trolling worth the wade.

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Point take - a friend's daydream

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 11, 2007 15:52 PM

Point taken. Forty-six percent of voters just for impeachment proceedings is not even in the ballpark given the depth and degree of the Bush-Cheney transgressions, which reflect and emerge from a full and richly bipartisan spectrum of institutional evil and oppression. We have yes an entire system of governance and rule (Empire and Inequality Inc.) to impeach. And of course the most appropriate legal proceedings by far would be for Bush-Cheney et al. to be tried for war crimes. (I'm not sure its technically legal to state my opinion of the appropriate punishment). An old/New Left friend of mine is so distraught about the absence of "measures [and oppositional institutions] at the disposal of the [U.S] population to bring about fundamental change" that she regularlly day-dreams about a short-lived military coup in which antiwar U.S. generals seize and hold Cheney-Bush-et al. while a provisional government to restore a modicum of democracy is installed. She knows the daydream is absurd but it recurs nonetheless.

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Crisis-Bound

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 11, 2007 14:28 PM

Paul:

One point to remember is the gravity of the threat that the U.S. system of governance (money and institutional power and the ignorance they breed) poses to international peace and security -- including, of course, life for most of us in the States.  The fact that we are now six-and-one-half years into a flagrantly criminal presidency, one that attacks us and that attacks domestic laws with as much energy as it does foreigners, and neither Congress, the courts, nor the general public have been able to stop it, is hardly reassuring. 

That U.S. opinion polls do not come back with something greater than nine-in-ten in favor of arresting these scoundrels is equally worrisome.  It shows that the world cannot count on the Americans to fix even their own problems.  Because Congress and the courts are creatures of the same high-criminality, and because there are so few measures at the disposal of the population to bring about fundamental change, including the sham electoral system, we are in for a long-term crisis.  And we are driving the rest of the world in the same direction.

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Well, there's a belated

By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 11, 2007 12:26 PM

Well, there's a belated impeachment poll by the American Research Group with the following findings:   

Question:
Do you favor or oppose the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against President George W. Bush?
7/5/07 Favor Oppose Undecided
All Adults 45% 46% 9%
Voters 46% 44% 10%
Democrats (38%) 69% 22% 9%
Republicans (29%) 13% 86% 1%
Independents (33%) 50% 30% 20%
3/15/06 42% 49% 9%
Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of adults nationwide July 3-5, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time. Of the total sample, 933 interviews were completed among registered voters.

 

Question:
Do you favor or oppose the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney?
7/5/07 Favor Oppose Undecided
All Adults 54% 40% 6%
Voters 50% 44% 6%
Democrats (38%) 76% 24% -
Republicans (29%) 17% 83% -
Independents (33%) 51% 29% 20%
Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of adults nationwide July 3-5, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time. Of the total sample, 933 interviews were completed among registered voters.

The percentage of American voters supporting impeachment proceeedings against boy King Bush is 2 points higher than those opposed; the percentage supporting such proceedings against Lord Darth Cheney is 6 points higher than those opposed. The support for impeachment proceedings against Dumbya is close to majority (46 percent) and there's a good chunk of undecided that could swing a majority.

It's interesting that there are so few polls on this.  I have yet to find relevant Nixon and Clinton comparisons.

Watch out for a National Security crisis...the high volume of terrorist chatter (along with reports of an "al Qaeda cell in the U.S.") was the lead story on ABC news yesterday.  

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Wow

By Waltk72, Atomcrasher at Jul 11, 2007 12:13 PM

There's apparently not a great deal of support for impeachment (or is it you) on the part of Z-Net's (or is it just your) shrinking readership. It's over. Go home.   

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