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Efficient Enumeration and Allocation of Tasks (with respect to Zmag)

By Jonathan Schindler at Feb 23, 2009


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One of the primary issues I've noticed while reading Zblogs and sustainers comments is one of frustration.  Perhaps to Michael, that frustration seems directed at staff, but I think the frustration is less personal than that.  I think the frustration comes from reading content that compels one to do something, that makes one feel a sense of urgency, yet at the same time, not having an easy way of doing something.  Let's face it, we're not all Michael Albert, or Noam Chomsky.  We can't all dedicate our lives 24/7.  We can't all be directly involved in community organizing efforts, either due to time or talent.  However, there is a great deal of work that needs to be done, that goes beyond protesting, or writing, or blogging, etc.  This is where efficiently listing tasks comes in.  Let's show an example.



Let's say, for the sake of example, there is a volunteer tab on Zmag site.  When the user clicks on this tab, they will see a list of tasks.  The tasks could be entered in by any number of people, by ZStaff, by Z groups, by individual users, etc.  We can decide upon (and discuss the merits of) any number of ranking systems for tasks.  For example, the tasks could be displayed chronologically, by sustainer vote (sustainers could vote for priority), by staff vote on priority, or some other weighted voting method of priority.  Tasks could be grouped by site section.  We could use such standard motivation tactics as having a progress meter for tasks.  The tab itself could list the total number of tasks completed, and the total number of tasks available.  Tasks could also be tied to a time or place (i.e. help organize protests in Saint Louis March 25th, etc).  So, for example, site participation could be one task, which is red when few users have zspace pages, but gets greener when more people participate.  Zmag  could have it's own default set of tasks for sustainers (i.e. fill out your zspace page, post a blog, etc.)  There could also be groups, as there are now, that focus on a narrower set of tasks. 



Beyond this, we could use the volunteer page as a way of thanking people who have volunteered.  We could have a ranking system that shows who has done what (yes, some people get motivated by this).  We could make such efforts as the work done by zmag-it more high profile, as it should be. 



But, you might ask, why tasks?  We've asked users to fill out their zspace pages, and they haven't done that, so won't giving them more stuff to do make the problem worse?  My answer is no.  First, users may not like blogging, they may feel that spending a lot of time maintaining a Zspace account is not the best use of their time or skills.  They may have all sorts of inclinations and predispositions that make them say "no".  But, let's say you list a bunch of tasks, and some of those tasks require very little time for some users.  Let's say the tasks are diverse.  I'm a programmer for example, does it make sense to have me blogging, when perhaps my contribution as a programmer would be more valuable?  Someone else might be a translator, and again, wouldn't it be nice for their talents to be used?  Let's say that we can chart our efforts, and see them going somewhere.  I think that this is much more gratifying.  I think that it also speaks to the diversity of desires that people have.  If huge software projects like the linux kernel can distribute tasks this way, then why not our own efforts?



Finally, this also speaks a bit about interface design.  I get no feedback about the state of the site when I go to zmag.org, other than  reading articles asking for more participation.  I can't tell by a glance which parts of the site are stagnant, which have change, etc.  What if the important tabs (or other areas) of the sight were green, and the less important areas some other color?  What if there were progress meters showing our participation?  I know it sounds cheesy, but I think those united way donation graphs work.  I think there is something enormously motivational about seeing a small contribution, multiplied by many people, create a larger work.  I have the feeling that a lot of Z users, aren't necessarily seeking attention.  They don't want to be big time activists right away, it's too big of a leap.  It starts with something small.  And, it starts with giving users feedback beyond words. 



Distributing tasks is definitely how I plan on getting ZCC off the ground.  After spending all weekend trying to get everything I wanted to done, I said to myself, "Screw it, we have a lot of people, why not just say what I think would be cool, and if people want to do it, they can sign up, if not, I'll do it myself later."  And, what I've noticed is if I say, I have these 10 tasks that are small, that need to be done, the people in ZCC at least, seem more than willing to do it.  I mean, if we're going to nag people, at least we could make it look cool and fun at the same time. :)

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Re: Efficient Enumeration and Allocation of Tasks (with respect to Zmag)

By C.rodas, Cliff at Feb 23, 2009 17:38 PM

Hey, graphical representation of need, usage and all of that is fantastic! I think it's time to have a ZCC call for the group to brainstorm more tasks/ideas and or feedback now on those proposed. In addition open polls with commenting might be a nice way to get some of the basic groundwork on that going. But, I'd say for sure it's time to call the great poobah of plenipotentiary sessions so we all have a chance to offer our voice and ideas - make sure Chris or Mike are there and/or actively updated ( : ) which would be hard not to anyway, eh?).

Let's get that phone calling - conferencing - roll call happening. Brainstorming here, maybe a period of a week would be nice after all - as a kind of weekly gathering and deadline to get feedback in a timely manner. Big votes could go down by the month or longer (or less) as needed to prepare for.

Jon's proposed task system sounds about as directly democatric as it gets. It sounds like an active 'Mutual Aid' section, too. Tasks could be organized/relisted as 'Recent-Active-Hot' (based on another wiki I've seen and thumbing posts (i.e. clicking and tally amount of 'thumbs up' posts, although we could probably something more versatile besides thumbing). Tasks could be proposed and developed in an intermediate step, too, in case a good rough idea needs refining or even a lab (wiki, programming, participation) to test the waters.

This all points to developing tools/a site/network of sites that a community of varied interests, abilities and biorhythms is going to be excited about more and more as it develops. Nice!

Hmmm... linux kernel? Alright you technosavvies, you're gonna have to include a quick explanation on the cool stuff we don't know about. : )

Well, we've got the wiki and I'm thinking about getting some of this stuff posted over there. I'm going to go back to the ZCC post and follow TCat's model for responding and if I can think of anything to add I will.

 

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By C.rodas, Cliff at Feb 23, 2009 19:11 PM

Alright, I've posted to the MediaWiki's 'Current Events' page an organized version of different proposals/ideas/discussion points. Of course, feel free to modify, proofread/edit or otherwise add/delete. Just drop a note about the reason for the edit.

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By Stark, Aaron at Feb 25, 2009 13:13 PM

I'm definitely interested in a virtual conference to plan out our approach to the various ZCC proposals (weekend times, like the ones Cliff suggested, are generally better for me). I had two minor suggestions-- just throwing them out there as (unsolicited) opinions: 1) Could someone who is an admin on the ZCC group put a link to the MediaWiki on the top of the ZCom group page? 2) As one of our first orders of business, we might want to think about pruning and focusing our use of the various external websites and ZCom functionalities. Since I have been following all this at a slight remove the past 2 weeks, I've been a little lost as to where to follow the discussion-- on ZCom blog posts, forum posts, the Mediawiki, Riseup.net, or email? I realize that this is a sign of activity and interest, and this almost always happens with new groups. But just to help people stay involved, we might want to discuss and decide what ZCC is going to use each resource for (Mediawiki, ZForum threads, ZCom blogs, ...), and maybe even post that info somewhere for people who are wondering.

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By Stark, Aaron at Feb 25, 2009 13:16 PM

Just after I posted my last comment, I looked closer at Cliff's Current Events page on the ZCC Mediawiki (https://zconsumerscouncil.org/mediawiki/index.php/Z_Consumers_Council:Current_events) and saw that this already gives a description of how we're planning to use these various resources. So maybe it's just a question of refining that document once ZCC has made some decisions, and then linking to that page more prominently on the ZCC ZSpace Group page.

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By Moorey, Crip at Feb 23, 2009 17:03 PM

I think these are excellent ideas. Especially the 'volunteer' tab. Znet at present provides a space in which to disemminate information, ideas and opinions. It doesn't provide tools with which to take those ideas to the next level. Action. Maybe Znet doesn't see this as ther role, but it seems to me like the ideal place to do so.

To be fair, maybe such tools do exist here, but I've been unable to find them. How does one create a group, for example?

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