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“Impossible to Sell to Any Adult Human Being"

By Paul Street at May 24, 2005


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An interesting article (see the full text below) appeared in the New York Times yesterday. Why is the United States working behind the scenes to get the Organization of American States (O.A.S.) to form a new committee “to monitor the quality of democracy and the exercise of power in Latin America?” Don't they have their hands full screwing up Iraq, where high-ranking US military officials recently acknowledged the bloody American involvement will have to last “many years” (see John F. Burns and Eric Schmitt, “Generals Offer Sober Outlook on the Iraqi War,” New York Times, 19 May, 2005, available online at www.nytimes.com/2005/05/19/international/middleeast/19iraq.html?ex=1117080000&en=ad518588e34d3a2c&ei=5070). This committee is an unusual thing to be agitating for because the O.A.S. has historically been reluctant to intervene in member states' internal affairs. US officials say it's all about making the O.A.S. a better, more effective organization. Latin American officials think Uncle Sam is simply looking for a new way to attack the Venezuelan Chavez government, which has infuriated the gringo overlords by daring to spit out the Killer Kool Aid of neoliberalism. They think that the committee will be created and employed to function as a “star chamber” to investigate and discipline nations and leaders who fail to take their orders from their more fair-haired masters in the U.S., the “responsible” (Nicholas Burns) and “chosen nation” that “stands taller and sees farther” (Madeline Albright) than all other states. While hyper-repressive US “war on terror allies” like Crown Prince Abdullah (Saudi Arabia) and Islam Karimov (perpetrator of recently accelerated mass butchery in Uzbekistan)continue to receive Bush administration assistance, Latin American leaders know, the popular Bolivarian Hugo Chavez has committed the unpardonable (for the White House) sin of openly rejecting the disastrous (for Latin Americans)dictates of the Washington consensus. Chavez has even used some of Venezuela's considerable strategic oil wealth to attack (imagine) the problem of poverty. The other day, US officials said their committee idea has nothing to do with "isolating Venezuela." But last month they tied the idea to Venezuela – it was all significantly about Chavez, the way they talked about it. U.S. officials say they have come to this committee idea in consultation with key Latin American states, referring specifically to Chile and Argentina. The O.A.S. ambassador from Chile says his country has “absolutely not been consulted.” The O.A.S ambassador from Argentina says that the U.S. explanation for its committee proposal “is going to be" ---- get this --- "impossible to sell to any adult human being.” The Argentine ambassador added his opinion that “the most powerful countries [ie, the U.S.] will never be” called before the committee. He denies that Argentina was consulted and declares his opposition to the American proposal! By the Times' account, American officials continue to blast Chavez for being a bad left-leaning boy and acknowledge that they hope their new committee will "hold the O.A.S. accountable for holding the Venezuelan government accountable for governing democratically.” Well, we got a good taste of the Bush administration's sense of democratic governance in the spring of 2002, when it backed a brief business class coup against Chavez --- a coup that was rapidly reversed through a massive outpouring of popular protest. Come to think of it, we've gotten quite a taste with the way the Bush administration and its radically regressive agents and allies have governed at home: through the systematic use of deception and fear-mongering to attain militantly plutocratic policies that are opposed by most of the imperial “homeland's” adult human beings. Latin American officials' memory of US support for that and other coups (including the more successful US-Chilean operation of September 11, 1973) certainly informs their skepticism about the American proposal to bolster “democracy” in Latin America. There's also this little point made by the Chilean O.A.S. ambassador: "In many countries, people are asking, 'What is the value of [America's concept of P.S.] democracy when I am still living in poverty? Many countries are in serious peril,” from poverty, says this official, who does not wish to follow the US in demonizing “Venezuela in particular” when so many Latin American states “still have these problems of poverty and extreme misery.” According to “several [Latin American] officials,” the Times notes, that nation's state is, “for all [Chavez's ] bluster….using Venezuela's oil wealth to address social problems.” Here's the Times story in its entirity: U.S. Proposal in the O.A.S. Draws Fire as an Attack on Venezuela By JOEL BRINKLEY WASHINGTON, May 21 - An American proposal to create a committee at the Organization of American States that would monitor the quality of democracy and the exercise of power in Latin America is facing a hostile reception from many countries in part because it is being viewed as a thinly veiled effort to attack Venezuela. Roger F. Noriega, assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs and a principal architect of the proposal, said in an interview this week that he was "not surprised they are seeing this in the context of Venezuela," but he added, "I am determined that it not be regarded as some kind of effort to isolate Venezuela." Last month, however, he and other administration officials made several statements tying the effort directly to their concern about Hugo Chávez, Venezuela's populist, anti-American president. Mr. Chávez has curtailed some press freedoms and judicial independence while forming close ties with Cuba, an alliance that, more than anything else, infuriates some Bush administration officials. The relationship between the United States and Mr. Chávez, which was already tense, deteriorated in 2002, after the United States tacitly backed a coup that briefly toppled him. The animosity has deepened since then, which is one reason many Latin American envoys remain skeptical of the reasoning Washington offers for its proposal. "This explanation is going to be impossible to sell to any adult human being," said Rodolfo Hugo This explanation is going to be impossible to sell to any adult human being," said, the Argentine ambassador to the Organization of American States. Jorge Chen, the Mexican ambassador, said, "I don't think this idea will pass." Some Latin American ambassadors say they fear that the new committee will turn into a star chamber, where ministers would summon representatives of certain countries for interrogation and criticism. United States officials strongly dispute that and say they are simply trying to make the organization more relevant and effective. "All we are doing is creating a mechanism, a procedure," Mr. Noriega said. An American official added that "we do think there should be accountability when countries violate the O.A.S.'s democratic charter." Mr. Chen said he had hoped that any plan "would not be something that comes from on high" - alluding to Latin America's longstanding concern about the United States imposing its will on the region. The American proposal is to be offered for approval during a meeting of the regional organization in early June in Florida. It emerged from a statement made last month in Santiago, Chile, by José Miguel Insulza, the organization's newly elected secretary general, at the insistence of American officials. "The elected governments that do not govern democratically should be held accountable by the O.A.S.," he said as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice stood beside him. Ms. Rice and other American officials had wrested that remark from him in exchange for American support for his candidacy. Immediately afterward, senior American officials told reporters traveling with Ms. Rice that Mr. Insulza's new plan would "hold the O.A.S. accountable for holding the Venezuelan government accountable for governing democratically," as one of them put it. One official, underscoring Washington's primary concern about Mr. Chávez, said during that news conference, "Let's note that Chávez is in Havana consulting with the region's only dictator and his best friend." Then, in an internal e-mail message, sent to State Department officials and others just after he and Ms. Rice returned from Chile on April 30, Mr. Noriega wrote that "Insulza accepted without hesitation our exhortation that he make a public statement alluding to the Chávez threat." Most Latin American leaders say they do not share Washington's concern about Mr. Chávez. "I don't think any country wants to take action against Venezuela," said Aristides Royo, the ambassador from Panama. The Organization of American States represents 34 Western Hemisphere nations, from Canada to Argentina, and while it does debate large policy issues, the organization has been loathe to interfere in its members' internal affairs. The American proposal has not been made public, but several administration officials described it. Under the plan, the regional organization would create a new committee whose mission would be to hear from labor unions, lawyers, citizens groups and other nongovernmental organizations that have concerns about their governments. "There is no formal mechanism for this now," Mr. Noriega said. "The most they have been able to do is mill around outside the council chamber and hope to catch somebody." If the committee found problems, it could propose diplomatic missions or other unspecified remedies. But the ambassadors said they feared that the very existence of the committee would prove highly embarrassing for the nations called before it. What is more, said Mr. Gil, "no one can be sure that in the future they would not be seated and judged by this committee in one year, two years, three years." "In Latin America," he added, "who knows what will happen." Salvador E. Rodezno Fuentes, the Honduran ambassador, said: "We have to sit down and see what the United States means with this. I don't think some states are prepared for this." Mr. Gil, the Argentine ambassador, said: "Every country has its problems. But I can tell you one thing: the most powerful countries will never be there." Senior State Department officials said they consulted principal allies in the region as they drafted the plan. Asked for names, they cited Argentina and Chile. Mr. Gil said he had not been consulted and strongly opposed the proposal. And Esteban Tomic, the ambassador for Chile, said his country had "absolutely not" been consulted. His government was given a copy recently, he said, "and we are examining it." "We have not formed a view," he said. Underlying the hostility toward the proposal is a broader concern that the United States remains "fixated" on Venezuela, as one ambassador put it, while Latin American democracies are struggling to survive. "In many countries, people are asking, 'What is the value of democracy when I am still living in poverty?' " Mr. Tomic said. "Many countries are in serious peril. I would not like to point to Venezuela in particular when we still have these problems of poverty and extreme misery." Several officials noted that, for all of Mr. Chávez's bluster, he is also using Venezuela's oil wealth to address social problems. But a senior American official who declined to be named because he did not want to inflame the debate with Latin American countries said Mr. Chávez's "prescriptions for poverty don't really work very well for countries that don't have vast oil wealth." He added that the American proposal would actually address the concerns voiced by Mr. Tomic and others. By bringing citizen groups before the committee, the official said, "we are creating a place where you can hear the voice of the people." "And that is a healthy thing," the official added. See Joel Brinkley, “U.S. Proposal in the O.A.S. Draws Fire as an Attack on Venezuela,” New York Times, 22 May, 2005, available online at www.nytimes.com/2005/05/22/politics/22oas.html?ei=5070&en=0296b9572d83d633&ex=1117425600&pagewanted=print
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Re: “Impossible to Sell to Any Adult Human Being"

By Child, Wandering at May 27, 2005 19:12 PM

Just to clarify, the notice posted by jose: 30.374 euros of 540.000 euros--- Toxicologic agents and Radioactive material. the rest ( 509.229 euros)--- Security and Paramilitary material. Jokerman is right, Pepe is just a friendly nickname...

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By Servo, Tom at May 27, 2005 13:32 PM

So, you see, the Whore House *is* attacking Venezuela, but unfortunately for them, few governments in Latin America, North America, Asia, Europe, Antarctica, or Australia are believing the BS. Regardless of how many staplers John Bolton can toss at UN ambassadors from other nations, or how many oral pleasures Condescending Rice gives to foreign heads-of-state, the US simply will not have enough allies to go it alone against Venezula. Our word is worth less than that of famous tv pitchman Joe Isuzu, regardless of who delivers the lines.

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By Servo, Tom at May 27, 2005 04:01 AM

The link about Venezuela's plans to purchase 100K Ak-47s from Russia: http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=771835&C=america The link to the Rumrunner's response: http://americas.org/item_19007 Link to Venezuela's plans on developing nuclear energy: http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/05/22/chavez.nuclear.reut/ Finally, I must ask why you: 1) do not wish to be called Pepe if you call yourself "Jose" (unlike you, I *do* speak Spanish fluently, and know that "Pepe" is a friendly nickname for "Jose"), and 2) call me a jerk. Does everyone who offers consructive criticisms of your posts get called "jerk?"

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By Servo, Tom at May 26, 2005 03:30 AM

Jose said:"I think that if the war in Iraq had gone better for the administration, we would be hearing right now about how Venezuela poses a direct threat to the US, supports terrorism, etc." I disagree, Pepe. The war is going very badly for the USA, and it hasn't stopped the Bush White-Collar-and-War-Crime-Family-Syndicate from floating the idea that Venezuela is already planning terrorist acts against its neighbors or even possibly the US itself. Recently, Venezuela purchased many AK-47s, and the Whore House issued a statement that it troubled them to know that so many rifles (but no WMDs.."yet") are in the hands of a guy who is chummy with Castro (boo, hiss). Chavez has recently announced intentions to work with Iran on developing nuclear energy for use in Venezuela. Of course, to the world's largest owner of WMDs (not Iraq, North Korea or even Sadddam at his worst, but the good old USA), this comes as a shock that Venezuela did not seek permission from its benevolent masters in the north. I think that we will be hearing more about Chavez' ties to terrorism, communism, and drugs (even though as far as the first and last items are considered, there is none.)

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Re: “Impossible to Sell to Any Adult Human Being"

By Epiong, Epiong at May 25, 2005 16:50 PM

Justin Podur's blog www.killingtrain.com has a lot of really good links to sites about Latin America and Venezuela.

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Re: “Impossible to Sell to Any Adult Human Being"

By Street, Paul at May 25, 2005 01:11 AM

I was also thinking that the "impossible to sell to adults" line evokes the great "die laughing" comment (made by a Mexican [?]official in response to dire US warnings about the threat of Cuba...or was it Nicaragua...will have to check). There's a long and unpleasant history of racist US foreign policy makers viewing Latin Americans as "hot-tempered" children who are gravely susceptible to the terrible outside influences of the right and/or left. The US is the sage "adult," the supposedly "responsible" guardian of the hemisphere....the tough but benevolent "tutor" (in "democracy" among other things) of the darker "developing" nations to the south. The US "elite" (always so predictable) has naturally plugged Chavez into their external virus mode, seeing him as a threatening example that will influence other Latin Americans to develop their own resources for their own population (a decision that must be demonized as anti-democratic). That's part of why the US official quoted at the end says that Chavez's redstributionist ideas don't work without vast oil resources (how about with Bolivia's natural gas?). Clearly though, leading Latin American officials are themselves less than impressed with the benevolence, wisdom, and maturity of North American "leaders" like Boy Dubya and his revolting toady Robert Noriega. They note that the attraction of anti-neoliberal populism in Latin America arises not so much from the model of the "blustery" Chavez as from the dire poverty that US neoliberal imperialism exacerbates. Imagine that. cryofan on the evidence foundation you propose...it's underway...if anyone has the energy to get and post the best Venezuela and Latin-American sites/links please feel free to post them here. And so what if joeblogs went a little off topic?

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By Cryofan, Cryofan at May 24, 2005 18:05 PM

Nice work, Paul. We need to start building an evidence foundation for the upcoming American action against Venezuela. Of course, most Americans will never get to hear the evidence that you present. But maybe some of it will leak out of the Internet into meatspace....

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