"Israel is a Lunatic State"
Wednesday, June 02, 2010
Source: RT
"Israel is a Lunatic State"
Political scientist Norman Finkelstein speaks with RT to give his assessment of Israel's raid on the Gaza Freedom Flotilla.



Mad Dogs
By notme, at Jun 02, 2010 21:48 PM
There's a problem with this idea of acting like mad dogs to scare everyone.
Any country boy knows that sometimes a band of wild dogs just has to be dealt with. Going out and killing dogs may not be a person's idea of fun, but sometimes when the health and safety of the people in thea area are threatened, then something has to be done. Usually people tolerate the problem for awhile just because they don't want to go shoot wild dogs. But, eventually the problem gets so bad, usually when someone gets hurt, that it has to be dealt with.
Being a person of peace, I would pray that Israel change its behavoir very quickly. But at some point, when the wild dogs are too viscious and are starting to scare everyone, then the community will go get their guns and deal with the problem.
Anyone who wants to intimidate and bully others by acting like wild dogs had better realize that this usually isn't tolerated for very long.
I'm a person of peace who generally does not believe in violence. I grew up reading Exodus and hearing about lovely Kibbutz's. It would be a shame to see that destroyed. But at some point, one has to wonder if the world might be more peaceful if we just dealt with the problem?
But we aren't there yet. To me, there's a response short of just dousing the cave with gasoline and shooting whatver comes out. The response is that we all need to peacefully go to Gaza.
If this convoy had 5 boats and 700 people, then the next needs to have 50 boats and 7000 people. And if that doesn't solve the problem, then the next convoy needs to have 500 boats and 70,000 people. If that doesn't work, we keep going. Maybe we need so many boats that we can walk from Cyprus to Gaza without getting our feet wet.
When's the next boat to Gaza? I think a lot of us need to be on it. Or the next one after that. Or the next one after that. That's Ghandi's tactic. Send the next wave to the salt mine. Strangely, when I saw that scene the first time, I couldn't imagine doing that. Nowadays I'm thinking that I really might need to be on a boat to Gaza soon.
If for no other reason to try to find a settlement of this issue peacefully before we start pulling out the gasoline and guns.
And don't mistake me, this needs to be peaceful. We must attempt to use peaceful methods to settle this.
But, there's a point where when I'm seeing people who I respect, when I'm seeing people who are taking actions that to me seem kind and noble in trying to help people who desperately need help, when I'm seeing these people murdered in cold blood, then I start thinking about what you do with wild dogs when the problem gets out of contol. It can be a very ugly night. But its nice to be able to walk down the road the next day without fear of attack.
Of course, its even better to some how make friends with the dog. But that's not always possible. Its worth a try to avoid an ugly night. But its not always possible.
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Re: Mad Dogs
By Stuart, Colin at Jun 04, 2010 14:05 PM
Talking about human beings as if they were dogs, is not peaceful. The first step to war and building hate is to dehumanize you enemy, In this case you do an added disservice to the struggle of the Palestinians by writing a piece which can be used by the Israeli propaganda machine to bolster their claims of anti-semitism.
c.stuart
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Re: Re: Mad Dogs
By Small, Brian at Jun 04, 2010 23:56 PM
The 'Mad Dog' and 'Lunatic State' terminology looks like it comes from the Isreali State, quoted by Norman Finklestein in the video.. They wanted to project that image to Arab States with the 'Gaza Masssacres' of 2008 and 2009. Of course you can't just shoot a State like a 'Mad Dog,' and it would be interesting to explore other approaches to wild dog issues but, States don't use teeth, they use guns and helicopters and nukes. Why not stop sending military aid? Toothless Mad Dog Lunatic States might be a bit more docile. Stop feeding the Mad Dogs and avoid training them to attack people.... Just a thought. Can you imagine sending Mel Gibson over there, he was good in that Dog scene in Lethal Weapon, the one where his girlfriend didn't get killed, just shot to one-up him in the scar department.
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Re: Re: Mad Dogs
By Mansoor, Mohammad at Jun 15, 2010 10:27 AM
First off, the term is not used for any person or race, but a regime. Secondly, as point out by Small, the quote is attributed to Israeli officials, not espoused as the views of the Interviewee. Mr. Finkelstein continously used the term 'lunatic state' until the end of the interview.
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