Parecon: post capitalist capitalism?
By Michael Albert at Jun 07, 2008 |
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I was just today sent a critical review of the book Parecon, that appeared, and that I replied to, some time ago. I thought I would make it available here...with the ensuing debate....of course.
I thought about breaking it into a whole bunch of pieces, original review, reply, etc. etc., but then it would be a whole bunch of posts, and while on my own blog page that would be okay, on the site, it would mean a whole bunch by me appearing one after another. So, instead, I put all the old part here in one - quite long - post, this one. Sorry about the length! And then I put as a second post, after this one, my final reply, the only part written today.
So, below, first is the review, and then my response, then a reply, a rejoinder, etc. Next post has my final take...
I do think that the reviewer's view is not unique to him or her but instead pretty common among Trotskyists - so that it, and I hope my reaction to it, is of broader interest.
I don't have the author's name, it wasn't included in the recent mailing - and actually I don't think it was included in the original review either as I don't mention it in my reply, below...
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Finally, then, to get started - here is the review - I assume as it originally appeared, and as I just received it...
Post-capitalist capitalism
Parecon Participatory economics, or parecon for short, is a vision of life after capitalism favoured by many in the anti-capitalist movement. The author of this particular vision helped to establish Z Magazine and its web site Zmag (zmag.org), including its subsidiary page devoted to parecon (zmag.org/parecon), which debates the issues raised by this book.
Parecon opposes "corporate globalisation" and argues for its replacement by "equity, solidarity, diversity and self-management." For Albert, capitalism means "private ownership of the means of production, market allocation, and corporate divisions of labour." Life after capitalism is said to combine "social ownership, participatory planning allocation, council structure, balanced job complexes, remuneration for effort and sacrifice, and participatory self-management with no class differentiation." The council structure involves workplaces, neighbourhoods, and "facilitation boards" which co-ordinate planning.
So-called "market socialism" is rejected because the market and class differentials would remain, as would buyers and sellers of labour power (capacity to work). In Albert's account, because class differentiation disappears in parecon, "you cannot choose to hire wage slaves nor to sell yourself as a wage slave." Parecon permits workers to assess their own pay and conditions in their decision-making by inputting their preferences via councils. It apportions income in accord with effort and "does not force or even permit people to try to maximise profits, surplus, or even revenues."
Notice however that Albert is specifically talking about prohibiting profit maximisation, not profits as such. Profits are acceptable; "excessive" profits are not. In the procedure envisaged, individuals and councils submit proposals for their own activities, receive new information including new indicative prices, and submit revised proposals until they reach a point of agreement. This process is open-ended and in Albert's book a hypothetical example is discussed which reaches a seventh planning cycle, or as Albert calls it "planning iteration." In reviews of this book much has been made of the potential for bureaucracy in this procedure, but a more telling criticism would be its unquestioning acceptance of the profit system. Wages cannot rise to the point which prevent profits being made; and a fall in profits will put a downward pressure on wages. This is called the class struggle.
"Parecon is basically an anarchistic economic vision", admits Albert, and it shows. Like many on the left, the difference between capitalism and post-capitalism presented here is essentially political, not economic. As indicated by the title, the crucial factor is participatory planning. The capitalist economy would remain substantially the same in parecon: the accumulation of capital out of profits produced by the unpaid labour of the working class.
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Here, to continue, is the reply that I sent, which arrived in the mail anew, again today, I assume as I sent it...
Parecon or Socialism?
The review of Parecon: Life After Capitalism, appearing in February Socialist Standard, was troubling. The review says the economic system proposed in the book called participatory economics, or parecon for short, permits profits, just not excessive profits. But in parecon there are no owners. In fact there are no classes. More, no one earns income based on ownership of any kind. There are, therefore, no profits - none.
Yes, society produces a social product. Yes, some plants produce a total value of output greater, and in some cases even much greater, than the total value of their inputs, including their labor. But, no, this does not enrich anyone associated with those plants relative to the incomes, say, of people working at plants that are far less productive. Remuneration is uncorrelated to value of output save that people must do socially valuable labor to be remunerated for labor at all. What the reviewer says about profit affecting wages, etc., in parecon, is simply about some other system...unless the reviewer is saying, if total output for a parecon is lower, average income is lower, which is, of course, a truism, having zero to do with profits, which don't exist in a parecon.
The reviewer says, incredibly, that getting rid of private ownership of production, markets, top down decision making, the corporate division of labor, and remuneration for property and power, the core economic institutions of capitalism, and replacing them with self managing workers and consumers councils, balanced job complexes, remuneration for duration, intensity, and onerousness of labor, and participatory planning, the core economic institutions of parecon - is correcting political dimensions, but not economics. I doubt the reviewer read the book. It is confined to addressing economic dimensions, not the polity.
I suspect that this reviewer thinks that because in parecon there are income, wages, and valuations - prices - it must be capitalism. This marks a major confusion. A letter I received from the host periodical signed off, "Yours for a moneyless, wageless world of common ownership." This too, is troubling.
In this world you desire to attain there is, I presume, production. Likewise, I assume you agree that people will consume. More, beyond production and consumption, is there some regulation of what is produced and in what quantity? The alternative would be that anyone can produce anything, with no concern other than that they wish to. This is nonsense, but if there is regulation of how resources, energies, and labor are allocated to generate outputs, does that regulation reflect the preferences that both producers and consumers have and especially a full valuation of the relative contribution to well being and development of different choices? If it does, then to that extent it includes "money." The valuations are prices, albeit not necessarily as we have known them in market and centrally planned systems.
In turn, do people receive a share of the product? Obviously they must if they are to survive, much less attain their capacities. So, that being true, is there any correlation between the share one gets and what one does as one's work? If not, anyone can take anything, in any amount, and do no work - which, of course, is absurd, since demand would exceed supply. If there is a correlation, however, then there are to that extent "wages" according to some norm, even if the correlation is due to people collectively and responsibly establishing their own incomes. In parecon, these are the reasons why there are "money" and "wages." The task becomes having this limited money and wages, which is to say valuations and shares of income, inevitably present in any economy, in accord with our full aspirations and values.
Money - more importantly, relative valuations of products and processes - exists in a parecon, therefore, so that people might make choices in light of full and true social costs and benefits. Participatory planning facilitates the determination of true and full values as decided by the self managing population.
Wages - more importantly, shares of social product allotted to citizens - exists in a parecon so that, of course, we can all equitably benefit from the social product, and specifically so that choices regarding such things as how long people work, how hard we work, producing what items, and what we justly consume, can be determined by the population, again, in accord with true social costs and benefits and, as well, with attaining equitable outcomes and self management.
I would claim, and the book does claim, that parecon is not only a serious economy able to meet needs, develop potentials, incorporate true self management, and be not just profitless but, beyond that, classless - but is also as close to having no money and no wages as is possible without incurring immense damage. That is, it has valuations and it has income shares, like any economy, but not the pejorative aspects of either - distinguishing it from all capitalist, market, or centrally planned economies.
Michael Albert
ZNet / Z Magazine
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The Editors, or perhaps the review author, I am not sure, replied and that is presented here, immediately below:
Editors Reply
The gist of your complaint is that, contrary to the claim made in the review of your book Parecon in the February Socialist Standard, you maintain that there are no profits in parecon because "no one earns income based on ownership of any kind. There are, therefore, no profits - none". But this is only because you have defined profit as a property income. It's still there, however, as you admit in your second paragraph above: "... some plants produce a total value of output greater, and in some cases much greater, than the total value of their inputs, including their labour". For profit to exist - or more generally "surplus value" (rent, interest and profit) - it is not necessary that these accrue to individuals through their ownership of property. Profit is simply the difference between expenditure and income and derives from the unpaid labour of the workers. Profits therefore existed in the former state-capitalist USSR and exist in the present-day Vatican - even though there is no individual ownership.
On page 132 of your book the rate of profit appears under the guise of "benefit cost ratio":
"Each round of planning, or iteration, yields a new set of proposed activities. Taken together, these proposals yield new data regarding the status of each good, the average consumption per person, and the average production 'benefit cost ratio' per firm. All this allows for calculation of new price projections and new predictions for average income and work, which in turn lead to modifications in proposals ..." http://www.zmag.org/books/pareconv/parefinal.htm (Chapter 8, subsection: Proceeding From One Proposal To Another)
You say the "benefit cost ratio" has nothing to do with profit because the "benefit cost ratio" will only benefit parecon society as a whole and not any individual. But as we have seen, this is based on a misunderstanding of what profit means. Moreover, you also claim on the same page in your book that:
"...workers' councils whose ratios of social benefits of their outputs to social costs of their inputs were lower than average would come under pressure to increase either efficiency or effort..."
Or go bust, presumably, unless profits were redistributed from workers' councils with above average ratios. This shows the limits of planning in "parecon", for in their planning considerations they must maintain profit rates. And while planning might be based on past or current profit rates, profits themselves are inherently unpredictable and this may scupper plans for the future. There is also the antagonism between wages and profits. Parecon society would need to maintain a positive rate of profit or lurch into crisis. This means that workers could not push up wages to the level that stopped profits being made, and this again sets definite limits to what can be planned.
Of course production and consumption will be regulated in a socialist society. That's an essential part of it, but this does not require recourse to money either as a means of exchange or for costing products and production. Calculation - and "costing" - in socialism will take place in kind (in tonnes of steel, kilowatt-hours of electricity, person-hours of work and so on) without having to put a monetary value on anything and everything. Socialist society will decide - through democratic discussion and from what people indicate they want by what they take from the common stores - what it needs to satisfy individual and collective consumption, and to replace and expand (if need be) the productive apparatus and then will bring together the physical and human resources to produce this. This will be done in the most technically efficient way, after taking into account good working conditions and environmental considerations.
In implementing the long-standing socialist principle of "from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs", socialist society breaks the link between work done and consumption. Rather than being "allotted" what to consume as under "parecon", people would be able to take from the common store of wealth set aside for individual consumption what they judged they needed to live and enjoy life, irrespective of what they had contributed to production. Every able-bodied person would be expected to contribute something, but we don't share your bleak view that, in this event, not enough would be produced to satisfy people's needs (that "demand would exceed supply", as you put it) - and that therefore, not just profits, but the wages system too would have to be retained as a means of both obliging people to work and of limiting their consumption. Just like under capitalism.
Hence our original description of "parecon" as "post-capitalist capitalism", i.e. not post-capitalism at all. We would be prepared to refer to it as a "utopian blueprint for an ideal society" if you prefer.
-Editors.
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I rejoined, so to speak, and that too appears right below. I might add as a comment that I kept it very short, despite the length of the editors comments above, because I there wasn't going to be room for more, which was too bad but understandable since periodicals don't want to and really can't turn over their entire content to letters, typically.
My Rejoinder
By any definition I have ever encountered, surpluses are not profits per se, though they may become profits under certain social relations, of course. Definitions aside, Parecon people's income, in any case, is not correlated to output, or to revenues minus expenditures, but to effort expended in socially valued production. No class takes income based on unpaid workers labor. No one does, other than those infirm and unable to work, that is. On the other hand, society and each of its members very much benefits if the total social product per time worked and inputs used up, is more, rather than less, socially valuable.
Saying that if a firm produces things of greater social value than it uses up, that means there are profits and the system is capitalist, is, honestly, absurd. In any economy, from now until the sun burns out and beyond, one will want workplaces of humans to actually generate more worth than they use up, of course. How the social product is then dispersed among the population is a very important issue, to be sure. Doing it according to effort, having also eliminated not only private owners above workers, but a coordinator class above workers, by balancing job complexes and instituting self management, is equitable.
Our real difference is probably best encapsulated in your calling the old Soviet Union state capitalist, and my saying that since it didn't have private owners of means of production, and it didn't have markets, but it did have a ruling economic class composed of those monopolizing empowering tasks in the economy, it is far more sensibly called not capitalist, not socialist, but coordinatorist, after its ruling class.
I share your desire that a future desirable economy involve workers and consumers cooperatively negotiating economic activities and their distribution. That is what parecon accomplishes. Given space limits, I guess for now we just have to agree to disagree about a lot, beyond that desire, however.
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The editors apparently replied again - something I think I had not seen previously, but did get in the mail today - or perhaps I did see it, and was told it was the final say, and that's why I didn't reply at the time - I just do not remember:
Editors' Reply
It is only under capitalism that the social surplus takes the form of a monetary surplus value and, as you admit, this is what will exist in "parecon". And this is what will be the imperative guiding and limiting its planning decisions. The institutional changes you advocate (no legal individual ownership of means of production, self-management, etc.) are inadequate reasons for claiming that capitalism has been overthrown.
We agree that the former Soviet Union did have a ruling class, but not that there were no markets there. Even the regime's ideologists admitted that there was "commodity-production", i.e. production for sale, and that buying and selling relationships existed between state enterprises. While there was no individual legal ownership of the main means of production (though there was of some things: dachas, works of art, state bonds, bank accounts), these means of production were not owned by society as a whole but effectively by a class which monopolised them, via the state, and which lived a privileged life from the surplus value extracted from the wage-labour of the workers. That is why we think the best description of that and similar societies was state capitalist.
Your attitude towards the former Soviet Union is revealing in that it shows that you had nothing against the continued existence there of the key features of capitalism that are production for sale, money, wages, profits, etc but only to the fact that the economic system involving these was controlled by a privileged ruling class and not democratically by the workers. "Parecon" is thus revealed to be the idea of the economic system that existed in Russia "self-managed" by the workers. A sort of "self-managed capitalism" that could only exist on paper.
Socialism will break free from the financial bureaucracy of capitalist calculation. It will treat people as ends in themselves. It will produce directly for human needs. It will break the link between individual effort and individual consumption. That's what all those who consider themselves to be anti-capitalist should be aiming at.
- Editors.
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And so in the next post I rejoin again, writing only this last segment, in the present - and this time writing for ZBlogs, not the periodical, which changes my task quite a bit, not least, permitting a longer exposition:






Re: Parecon: post capitalist capitalism?
By Frchristie, Frederic at Jun 22, 2008 21:19 PM
Dan: They may indeed mean that. If they do, it is idiotic. A = B = C. If we run an economy that can\'t even follow basic rules of mathematics, how in Lord\'s name will it efficiently handle production of desired and essential goods? Yes, parecon wants to have an idea of things\' "value", so that the proper amount of them can be produced. Let\'s say that I wildly overestimate the value of corn. That means that I will produce far more corn than anyone will want to use, since I overestimated its importance. That means waste production and a lot of corn that has to be thrown away. That\'s, well, bad.
Their concerns are a little different, I expect, but remain fairly trivial or meaningless.
I agree with Greg: It\'s sad to see people forcing everything they don\'t understand or don\'t personally prefer into the capitalist pigeonhole.
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By Albert, Michael at Jun 19, 2008 06:00 AM
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yikes!
By McGehee, Michael at Jun 16, 2008 13:59 PM
how is it only under capitalism that surplus in monetary forms exist?
these guys are a bunch of crack pots operating on empty slogans
how are people to be remunerated in a socialist society where "individual effort and individual consumption" is abolished?
damn, that sounds like an authoritarian hell. absolutely no diversity or respect for individuality. its a complete forced submission of the individual to society where the individual has no input.
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Common numeric standard for all products?
By Nissenbaum, Dan at Jun 15, 2008 21:13 PM
I took the criticism of the Socialist Standard to be that in Parecon, there is a common numerical standard against which all economic output is measured.
For example, "1 ton steel = $1000", "1 MWh electricity = $1000", and "100 bushels of apples = $1000". Therefore, "1 ton steel=100 bushels of apples".
Whereas in socialism as described by the Socialist Standard, each product is measured only on its own terms, never in comparison to a common numeric standard. This could lead to situations such as:
"1 ton steel=1 MWh electricity", "100 bushels of apples=1 MWh electricity", but "1 ton steel is NOT equal to 100 bushels of apples".
Am I correct in my interpretation of their criticism?
If so, I\'m curious if this represents a fundamental difference.
Dan
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Pop-Tent Strategy: Clearly Demonstrating the Model
By Dean, Gregory at Jun 13, 2008 13:45 PM
This critique from the Socialist Standard is rather unintelligible to me. It must be maddening to you. I can barely fathom how the reviewer could possibly derive profit if he\'d actually read the book within it\'s context of a new socio-economically arranged world. When even editors at a socialist journal can only conjure the world through a capitalist/market lens, it becomes clear to me that we need to look to a pop-tent strategy that by-and-large is a whole parecon network right off the bat. That to risk the model being judged incorrectly by pareconnish hybrids – essentially camouflaged or convoluted parecon - is folly and could too easily end in the discrediting of the model. This is a primary reason why I think the strategy of Federating Participatory Co-ops that only do business with each and thereby create a self sufficient parecon network is key. We create a hopeful alternative that stands alone with little corrupting influence to confuse people between what is true parecon and what is capitalist confused parecon. Heavy focus would be needed on the cultural and educational end. Once we have our own productive means these media and education become easier to address properly via participatory modus-opperandi to boot. So if we move into our own established co-ops (and transfer them to RES and BJC) then those co-ops can openly prefer to hire from participatory educational institutions, thereby increasing student interest for those institutions. Those students who wish to be paid to go to school as per RES, could sign a contract to work within Federated firms for however many years afterward \'graduation\'. This remuneration for studying might mostly be covering room and board (b/c learning is a pretty good gig), which we could do cheaply through economies of scale at universities we confirm as participatorily operated educational institutions (where students get a say proportionate to their stake in the design of curriculum and operation of the university).
It seems that too many people don\'t believe a new world is possible. That the current system is too powerfully entrenched and that we should only hope for reform. Some people seemingly keep themselves ignorant at how far gone the planet is, thereby actually thinking their efforts on a single issue or on using halogen bulbs and recycled paper are enough. I often wonder if this ignorance is willful in the subconscious realization of the first problem... that systemic change is as futile and dangerous as sending in a little league team to play the Yankees, \'so keep my head down and believe in what change (if largely insignificant) I might actually be able to affect\' (and maybe build more momentum to activism).
But if people can see that we\'re at least a triple A farm team maybe they\'ll come and watch, train with the team, talk it up, and form their own teams to play in a league of our own (to beleaguer the analogy).
I personally am not a huge fan of movement building in the sense of it being something we add on to the daily process of living, like getting a second job that doesn\'t pay. I believe in making things fun and integral to life; if we can do that then we\'re establishing daily practices which are \'insiduous\' (positive application of the word) to a cultural parole or natural way of speaking, thereby making participatory consciousness experiential not just abstracted. In short parecon should be less some goal we agitate for and more a mode of being that we can live as integral to our daily lives. Whether it be the participatory setting of editorial policy at our journals, participatory art at our festivals, concerts, etc., or businesses we set up. The last example of our own firms has the key problem of needing to exist in a [arecon network of firms (their own economic system/network) to not be a confusable hybrid of parecon capitalism. That is that parecon firms, in order to be participatory have to be in an environment/network that supports them to be parecon, for competition with other firms will deteriorate their ability to practice parecon internally or treat themselves decently as workers and thereby erode the pragmatic value of operating with BJC and RES and participatory governance.
I\'ve seen too much slow undulation in activism from great successes, to citizens agreeing with but seeing actions in the street as useless and futile. My family raised me in a culture of activism, much of which was at a large scale with the Communist Party, and all that undulated to low levels of perceptibly nothing. I think it is because we never look to increase our capacity or ability to survive and thrive on our own terms. Activists, no matter how successful, have to go back and work in the capitalist or at least hierarchical systems for the most part. We ask everyone to come out to a rally but never come to them in their own work places. Even unionism doesn\'t really build, trade unionism just works to get people some crumbs off the capitalists\' table. What if we worked to buy out plants, there\'s a heck of a lot of overcapacity in most industries and lots of bankrupt operations. Maybe we need parecon \'business\' people and lawyers more than we need traditional style activism. Maybe we need to look to the biggering and biggering boys and learn from them if we are to create stand alone parecon networks that can allow people to see the full, undiluted logic of parecon.
We can organize to blockade major corporations out of forests, mines or conferences, so why can\'t we organize some capital so we can transition to non-capitalist notions of exchange values and allocation? We don\'t even have to go to jail for the latter form of organizing. We\'re mostly white, educated and English speaking, meaning we\'re placed in privilege well enough that we can access and leverage capital (to undo capital) almost as well as any one else. But forget that, the big credit unions and co-ops are governed by small elections which is the kind of organizing many pareconners are rather accustomed to. Let\'s get elected to facilitate stakeholder deliberations and to build a stand alone economy that demonstrates our model clearly.
Here I\'ll address what I see as a big gap in the logic of most subscribers to anarchist thought: That to engage representative democracy (even to garner direct, participatory governance) is somehow so dirty that we could never use it without withering our own moral fortitude to sand. This is silly, how can you establish a new process for coming to agreement without using the current method of deliberation? We don\'t even represent a paradox of democracy, that is I\'m not proposing using \'democratic\' elections for representative seats to do away with democratic process. Quite the opposite, I propose we use representative \'democracy\' to bring in truly inclusive and thus valid self-governance models. We\'re proposing to be elected as facilitators, not directors.
Show me is what most people say to me. When I first explain parecon to some people they jump up and excitedly ask “Where does that exist?!” and when I reply \'no where\' they generally drop like a led weight and tune out qutie a bit. The review of Life After Capitaism shows us that even if it\'s some one\'s job to engage parecon in a theoretical sense, they can\'t do it... Let alone a public that can\'t see it anywhere to actually relate to something real they can chew and breathe. A public speeding by trying to survive in this rat race isn\'t going to see our invisible dream. Our model at least needs to have a massive billboard inviting them off the freeway at a specific exit to our under construction experiment.
The U.S. Doesn\'t have that big of a co-op economy. However there are some key credit unions and co-ops in energy and utilities on the East Coast. There is also the REI outdoor apparel co-op with about a hundred stores in 28 states. REI\'s nominations for the board elections are however run by a nominating committee, it\'s not really open. I\'m sure enough of us are familiar with infiltration to figure that problem out, and it would be worthwhile to crack as participatorily designed, priced and distributed clothing would be a massively powerful communications venue. These aren\'t bad little jewels to work from. One credit union serves most of the media workers in New York, imagine messaging to them every time they go in to do their online banking. Now watch how much better media coverage we get of our efforts throughout the Country. That\'s a somewhat irrelevant example though; what I\'m really talking about is having the capital or economy of scale in a parecon network to finance and operate our own, full fledged, media system.
Those credit unions and co-ops could do business with each other whenever possible and help parecon start ups by contracting out to them. So if a few of our pareconner facilitated credit unions needed stationary they\'d buy all their stationary from a participatory co-op they help set up. Maybe even help workers to buy up one of the many bankrupt pulp and paper mills in Quebec to produce the envelopes, card stock, etc. Maybe the utility co-ops need 500 trucks a year so we organize with laid off workers to buy up one of the many empty truck factories in Ontario and start a parecon auto division and use the parecon media co-op to popularize our trucks with parecon loyal consumers (which already has million$ in funding to promote our parecon credit unions and other businesses or the Federation identity more generally. Note: our advertising would be more about announcements and invitations to council deliberations and participatory product design and distribution imo).
We need to think about the cruxes, the bottlenecks that bring capital to it\'s knees and beg parecon to take over for it. That\'s one thing I\'ve learned in blockades, you only win when you cost the fuckers more than they\'re willing pay to fight over the issue. Even then, you loose unless they sell out of their position free or cheap to your system of stewardship. \' Cause they\'ll likely use the capital from divesting of a troublesome position to finance an even worse less obvious position, where they can clear cut, mine or reduce wages without fuss and public accountability.
Of course in the case of systemic change to parecon they\'re going to be willing to sell the the farm to fight us if it means they can finance keeping the system of exploitation alive (parecon\'s destruction). This will actually look like them diluting their currencies and profit margins to maintain market share and dominance. This will make our \'currency\' that much more attractive to workers and consumers. If we permeate society and the economy well enough, we\'ll be ready to buy the farms from them either through low key pareconners or those sympathetic to parecon. Kind of like Robespierre auctioning off Versailles\' furnishings to the Imperial powers of Europe to finance the defense of that \'revolution\' against those very imperial auction buyers, but in reverse. OK, so I dream. Forgive me, thinking in terms of Go I tend to project \'territorial influence\' way down the line from any series of stones.
In short let\'s play for keeps, not some amorphous gain in \'movement\' strength. Where they are weakened lets gain from capitalist capacity to build ours so as to allow people to live and believe in a participatory society as a distinct and real possibility. Like my mom says: It\'s our economic capacity, they just have their name on it. As long as the capitialists have the means to buy out or starve the population and control/corrupt policy discussions they will... Our gains will be lost to their ability to continuously come back with their greater means. With the planet\'s life support systems greatly weakened it\'s time to win more than just the right to a gerbil wheel of half-decsency in the capitalist apparatus. We must quickly win our own self-sufficient, moral world.
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