Re-Imagining and Recovering Revolutionary Socialism
[Contribution to the Reimagining Society Project hosted by ZCommunications]
Why re-imagine socialism? I can think of five reasons.
"Socialism or Barbarism If We're Lucky"
First, because Karl Marx, Frederick Engels, and Rosa Luxembourg were right: humanity either transcends capitalist class rule by constructing a new genuinely social order based on democratic principles or it falls into permanent disaster, tyranny and decline. Failure to develop and implement a radical alternative to the profits system and its fake, corporate-managed "democracy" will bring us (in no short order) to what Arundhati Roy calls "the endgame of humanity."[1] The technical, organizational, and cultural forces of production, distribution, pollution destruction, and social/thought/ population- control that have emerged under the direction and command of capital and the capitalist state have turned that command into an ever-more imminent existential threat not just to meaningful democracy and (intimately related) to the very survival of the species. [2] The Hungarian Marxist Ivan Meszaros was right to update
"Many of the problems we have to confront - from chronic structural unemployment to major political/military conflicts...as well as the ever more widespread ecological destruction in evidence everywhere - required concerted action in the very near future...We are running out of time..."
"Those who talk about the ‘third way' [between capitalism and socialism and under corporate-neoliberal state-capitalist management, P.S.] as the solution to our dilemma, asserting that there can be no room for the revival of a radical mass movement, either want to deceive us cynically by calling their slavish acceptance of the ruling order ‘the third way,' or fail to realize the gravity of the situation, putting their faith in a wishfully non-conflictual positive outcome that has been promised for nearly a century but never approximated by even one inch. The uncomfortable truth of the matter is that if there is no future for a radical mass movement in our time, there can be no future for humanity itself." [3]
Midwife of Socialism or Undertaker of Humanity?
Second, because Marx and Engels were wrong: there are no fixed teleological laws of historical development determining the dialectical emergence of a revolutionary proletariat that - with proper guidance and assistance from a heroic, clear-eyed, and iron-willed revolutionary "vanguard" - will sweep the masters of capital into the dustbin of history. A "fully developed" capitalism is by no means the inherent progenitor of its own radical working class grave-diggers. It is by no historical law the "midwife of socialism." Possessed with means of destruction and hegemony that the historical Left's leading 19th century thinkers could hardly imagine, the "late capitalism" of the long multinational-corporate era seems more properly understood as the potential undertaker of humanity - as a plague or cancer threatening the continued viability of the human experiment (not to mention the lives of numerous other species). It is hardly a "utopian" flight of elite intellectual fancy for people from any and all classes to work to rigorously conceptualize and advance alternative democratic models of political and economic and development beyond the parasitic death-grip imposed by the business class and its many captive and indoctrinated servants. It is, rather, one's duty to humanity to undertake such intellectual and activist work.
"No Chance of Success" Without Vision
Third, because transcending fatal (state-) capitalist domination to build a new livable and lovable eco-institutional habitat for humanity requires a powerful new revolutionary movement and no such movement has any "chance of success, and deserves none," as the libertarian socialist Noam Chomsky noted in the August of 1969, "unless it can develop an understanding of contemporary society and a vision of a future social order that is persuasive to a large majority of the population." [4]
"In an advanced industrial society," Chomsky elaborated, "it is, obviously, far from true that the mass of the population have nothing to lose but their chains, and there is no point in pretending otherwise. On the contrary, they have considerable stake in preserving the existing social order." Further: "any serious radical movement...will not be able to satisfy itself with a litany of forms of oppression and injustice. It will have to provide compelling answers to the question of how these evils can be overcome by revolution or large-scale reform...The threat of tyranny and disaster, or even their early manifestation, does not itself provide a sufficient basis for the creation of a significant radical mass movement. In fact, this threat may induce a conservative defensive reaction. For a person to commit himself to a movement for radical social change with all of the uncertainty and hazard that this entails, he must have a strong reason to believe that there is some likelihood of success in bringing about a new social order." [5] Vision matters.
"So, Goodbye to the Soul of
Fourth, because the historical models of really and recently existing "socialism" and in-power "Marxism [-Lennisim]" have not proved attractive or persuasive to most of the world's citizen-workers. Those models sadly identified the word "socialism" with the dungeon and with stultifying state bureaucracy. One can argue about the extent to which this unattractiveness and tragic misidentification is the result of (a) capitalist-imperialist power, propaganda, blockade, and intervention; (b) harsh historical circumstances (the legacy of feudalism and Tsarism/absolutism) and the related isolation of the Russian Revolution after 1919; and/or (c) inherent moral and ideological flaws within "socialist" movements and states since the mid-late 19th century. However one jumbles these and (perhaps) other factors, however, it is an uncontestable fact that the state policies and institutions that elites on both sides of the Cold War came (for their own different reasons) to identify as "socialism" had little to do with the liberating spirit of popular working class rebellion and popular revolution that the original socialist and left anarchist movements embodied. Coldly and quite immediately betraying Marx's egalitarian and anti-authoritarian leanings - reflected in his brilliant denunciation of the capitalist division of labor [6] and his embrace of the short-lived radical-democratic Paris Commune [7] and in his reference to the desirable future as among other things the reign of the self-determining "associated producers"[8] - the Soviet experiment (lacking the oxygenating effect of the European revolution Trotsky knew it required) "moved quickly to dismantle the incipient socialist institutions that had grown up during the popular revolution - the factory councils, the Soviets, in fact any organ of popular control - and to convert the workforce into what they called a ‘labor army' under the command of the leader"(Chomsky).
In the decades the ensued, the Soviet elite that arose upon this dismantling came to embody one half of the Russian anarchist Mikhail Bakunin's hauntingly prophetic warning that the new intellectual middle class of the late nineteenth century would (by Chomsky's translation) "follow one of two paths: either they would try to exploit poplar struggles to take state power themselves, becoming a brutal and oppressive Red bureaucracy; or they would become the managers and ideologists of the state capitalist societies, if popular revolution failed." [9]. The Soviet model may have transcended - maybe we should say delayed - private ownership of the means of production, but it sustained numerous other and interrelated hierarchies like the rule of men over women, the state over the citizenry, and the metropolis over the countryside. It also preserved and indeed quite deliberately (and proudly) expanded the capitalist labor process's de-humanizing division between de-skilled "manual" and clerical workers who executed largely rote tasks conceived and coordinated for them from the top town by those who - to quote the dissident Marxist East German intellectual Rudolf Bahro [10] - "perform predominantly intellectual, creative, planning, and managerial activity."
Under the Soviet model of "socialism," as Stephen Marglin noted in his classic late-1960s essay "What Do Bosses Do?," the state played essentially the same directive, accumulation-oriented, surplus-value-extracting role that the "private" capitalist and his supervisors played under the bourgeois regime. It did so quite consciously and unapologetically, as Marglin observed: "The emphasis on accumulation accounts in large part for the failure of Soviet-style socialism to ‘overtake and surpass' the capitalist world in developing egalitarian forms of work organization. In according first priority to accumulation of capital, the
Is it any wonder that private ownership and direction of the means of production and distribution and of top financial and investment functions was restored (perhaps we should say belatedly consolidated after accumulation-ist Lennist/Stalinist dispossessors and Taylorites assembled a Russian working class) with remarkably little opposition (on the whole) - from the old Soviet power elite after 1990? As the radical Dutch Marxist Anton Pannekoek (denounced as an "infantile leftist" by Soviet authorities) noted in 1947, "The goal of the working class is liberation from exploitation, and this goal is not reached, and cannot be reached, by a new directing and governing class, substituting itself for the bourgeoisie. It is only realized by the workers themselves being the master over production." [12] Thirty years earlier, in the same year as the Bolshevik revolution, the leading British Communist Party founder William Paul observed (in a book titled The State: Its Origins and Functions) that "the revolutionary socialist denies that state ownership can ever end in anything other than a bureaucratic despotism...the state cannot democratically control industry. Industry can only be democratically owned and controlled by the workers electing directly from their own ranks industrial administrative committees....The political state throughout history has meant the government of men ruling classes. The republic of socialism will be the government of industry administered on behalf of the whole community..."[13]
In his 1997 novel Timequake, Kurt Vonnegut reflected that "to children of the Great Depression...it still seems a mild shame to outlaw from polite thought, because of the crimes of [Soviet] tyrants, a word [communism] that in the beginning described for us nothing more than a possibly reasonable alternative to the Wall Street crapshoot."
"Yes," Vonnegut added, "and the word Socialist was the second S in
Socialist Comeback in the
Fifth, because the moment is curiously ripe like no time in recent memory in the world's most powerful capitalist state. We know, of course, that a remarkable new wave of in-power socialist sentiment has spread across post-neoliberal Latin America, claiming the elected leaderships of, for example,
To be sure, the "business liberal" Obama is a heavily Wall Street-affiliated top-down state capitalist, NOT anything like a "socialist." The Rasmussen Reports pollsters did not define either capitalism or socialism in their survey, leaving respondents free to absurdly follow Newsweek's moronic editors in defining the term to mean pretty much any sort of significant government involvement in the economy. As the Marxist commentator Eric Ruder noted last June in the International Socialist Review, "the distinctive feature of much of this public discussion of socialism - with some exceptions - is that most admirers and detractors generally share a common (and hollowed out) idea of what socialism is: namely state intervention in the economy." Under the terms of the dominant discussion, a nation is "socialist" simply to the degree that its government intervenes in its economic system. As Ruder rightly observed, "this criterion...leaves out a critical question: In whose interests is state intervention carried out?" It deletes the critical dimensions of workers' control and egalitarian planning of economic and social life for the common good. [17]
Still, there is today a new opening for saying hello again to "the soul of Eugene Debs" and, I would add (being a socialist in the left libertarian tradition), to the souls of Anton Pannekoek, Rosa Luxembourg. Mikhail Bakunin, Gerrard Winstanley [18], the real and radical Marx, Rudolph Rocker [19], Joe Hill, the Chicago Haymarket Martyrs (who were what historian James Green calls "socialists of the anarchists sort") and the broader fluid and eclectic, radical social-revolutionary movement and milieu - at once Marxist and anarchist - that August Spies, Albert Parsons, and Adolf Fischer (who said that "every anarchist is a socialist, but not every socialist is necessarily an anarchist") epitomized [20].
People are looking again, like no time in many decades, for "reasonable alternative[s] to the Wall Street crapshoot." As giant financial bailouts combine with growing economic destitution to graphically expose the chasm between the investor and political classes on one hand and the working-class citizenry on the other, "people everywhere [have] learned" what William Greider calls "a blunt lesson about power, who has it and who doesn't. They [have] watched
Since the financial sector's meltdown and the first giant bankers' bailouts under George W. Bush last summer and fall, it has been commonplace for the "mainstream" (corporate) media to note that "free market" principles and "laissez faire" ideology have been pushed to the side in favor of new government intervention and regulation required to rescue and stabilize capitalism. The dominant media narrative fails to note that capitalism and its wealthy masters have always expected and received government protection and that the new interventions are harshly tilted toward the rich and powerful Few at the expense of the working class Many. Still, the significant new de-legitimization of "free market" doctrine creates potentially favorable new space for progressives to advocate government intervention and bottom up popular intervention of a different sort. If the
At the same time, the masters of capital can no longer as credibly hold up the Soviet bogeyman to discredit the historical Left struggle against capitalism in the ways that Vonnegut wryly bemoaned. The Soviet model collapsed when a first time 21-year old Obama-for-president was getting ready for nursery school when the Stalinist model collapsed. Neo-Hooversit/-McCarthyite Red Scare rhetoric doesn't appear to be working very well with much of the
We have, I would argue (I suppose this is at least implicit by now) an opportunity not only to re-imagine revolutionary socialism anew but also to re-connect with the real radical-democratic Left anti-capitalist tradition that was submerged during the Cold War period, when elites on both sides of the U.S.-Soviet divide had compelling interests to embrace a fake definition of "socialism."
I leave to others the precise pre-blue-printing and strategic planning of the recovered and re-imagined socialist society. While I do not share the judgment that it is inherently authoritarian to draft such "futurist" documents, I do not feel particularly qualified to be in the drafting room. At the same time, I agree with something else that Chomsky said in the summer of 1969: the "goals and organizational forms" of any serious revolutionary left political project "must take shape through active participation in popular struggle and social reconstruction. A genuine radical culture can be created only through the spiritual transformation of great masses of people, the essential feature of any social revolution that is to extend the possibilities of human creativity and freedom."[22] The main thing for me at least right now is helping to re-imagine and rebuild the left so as to encourage the sort of rank-and-file social motion and "spiritual transformation" that "re-imagined socialism" requires to be effective. I do not want to exaggerate the dichotomy between movement-building and vision. The two are dialectically inseparable and mutually reinforcing (if I might resort to some old-fashioned sounding terminology). Still, we have not transcended divisions of labor on the Left and I think I know where I stand in the subdivision of tasks
Paul Street is the author of many reviews, speeches, chapters, e-mails, and books, including Empire and Inequality: America and the World Since 9/11 (boulder, CO: Paradigm, 2004); Segregated Schools: Educational Apartheid in the Post-Civil Rights Era (New York: Routledge, 2005); Racial Oppression in the Global Metropolis (New York: Rowman & Littlefield, 2007); and Barack Obama and the Future of American Politics (Boulder, CO: Paradigm, 2008). Street can be reached at paulstreet99@yahoo.com
Notes
1. Arundhati Roy, "Democracy's Fading Light," Truthout (July 13, 2009), read at http://www.truthout.org/070709O?n
2. At the beginning of their classic 1848 pamphlet The Communist Manifesto, Marx and Engels wrote the following: "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes." The phrase "common ruin" takes on new meaning in an age of deepening ecological crisis and nuclear weapons and continuing hyper-militarization. For
4. Noam Chomsky, "Some Tasks for Responsible People" (August 1969), pp. 150-162 in Noam Chomsky, Chomsky on Democracy and Education, ed. C.P. Otero (
5. Chomsky, "Some Tasks for Responsible People," pp.153-154.
6. See, for one among many examples, Karl Marx, Capital: A Critique of Political Economy, Volume I (New York: International Publishers, 1967 [1867]), p. 356, where Marx noted the absurdity of an English bourgeoisie that "denounces with rigor every conscious attempt to socially control and regulate the process of production" as a dastardly scheme to "turn all society into one immense factory" even as the same bourgeoisie "praises division of labor in the workshop, lifelong annexation of the laborer to a partial operation, and his complete subjection to capital, as being an organization of labor that increased its productiveness..." On p. 488 of Volume I Marx denounced modern capitalism's production of the "detail-worker," who was "crippled by the repetition of one and the same trivial operation, and thus reduced to a mere fragment of a man" - a sorry phenomenon he contrasts with "the full developed individual," given "free scope to his own natural and acquired powers" that will come into existence "when the working-class comes into power..."
7. Karl Marx, The Civil War in France (1871); Karl Marx, "The Third Address [The Paris Commune] to the General Council of the First International (May 30, 1871), reproduced at Marxists Internet Archive [accessed July , 2009], read online at http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1871/civil-war-france/ch05.htm
8. For examples of Marx's use of the term "associated producers" and of his related libertarian concept of humanly self-determined life and labor beyond the capitalist production system and labor process, see Karl Marx, Capital, Vol. 3: The Process of Capitalist Production as a Whole (New York: International Publishers, 1967[1894]), pp.83, 261, 437, 440, and 820. On the last page cited here, Marx wrote the following: "The realm of freedom...can only consist in socialized man, the associated producers rationally regulating their interchange with Nature, bringing it under their common control, instead of being ruled by it as by the blind force of Nature, and achieving this with the least expenditure of energy and under conditions most favorable to, and worthy of, their human nature...Beyond it begins the development of human energy which is an end in itself, the true realm of freedom, which, however, can only blossom forth with this realm of necessity [production] as its basis. The shortening of the working-day is its basic prerequisite."
9. Noam Chomsky, What Uncle Sam Really Wants (Berkeley CA, 1995), pp. 91-92. The Soviet "model" was hardly without real accomplishments. It succeeded in significantly modernizing
10. Rudolf Bahro, The Alternative in
11. Stephen Marglin, "What do Bosses Do?" pp 13-54 in Andre Gorz, ed., The Division of Labor: The Labour Process and Class Struggle in Modern Capitalism (Humanities Press, NJ, 1976), p.15.
12. Anton Pannekoek, "Theses on the Fight of the Working Class Against Capitalism," Southern Advocate for Workers Councils, Melbourne, no. 33, Mai 1947, reproduced online at http://www.marxists.org/archive/pannekoe/1947/theses-fight.htm
and quoted in part in Noam Chomsky, For Reasons of State (New York: New Press, 2003 [1970]), p.379.
13. Quoted in Noam Chomsky "Two Conceptions of Social Organization" (February 16, 1970), pp. 126-149 in Chomsky, Chomsky on Democracy and Education, ed., Otero. Quotation on p. 132.
14. Kurt Vonnegut, Timequake (New York: Berkley, 1997), p. 192
15. Jon Meacham and Evan Thomas, "We Are All Socialists Now," Newsweek (February 16, 2009).
16. Rasmussen Reports, "Just 53 Percent Say Capitalism Better Than Socialism" (April 9, 2009). Read at http://www.rasmussenreports.com
17. Eric Ruder, "What is Socialism?" International Socialist Review, May-June 2009, p. 25. For Obama's guiding philosophy as "business liberalism," see Kevin Baker, "Barack Hoover Obama: The Best and the Brightest Blow it Again," Harper's Magazine (July 2009).
18. The great 17th century English Digger pamphleteer and activist Gerrard Winstanley makes numerous appearances in British Marxist historian Christopher Hill's The World Turned Upside Down: Radical Ideas During the English Revolution (New York: Penguin, 1975). For samples of Winstanley's remarkable radical writings (formed in precociously developed opposition to capitalist social relations at the moment of the bourgeois system's revolutionary political triumph in
19. See Rocker's classic 1930s text Anarcho-Syndicalism (Pluto Press, 1998).
20. For important history and reflections on Chicago-style Haymarket era anarchism-Marxism-trade-unionism, see Bruce C. Nelson, Beyond the Martyrs: A Social History of Chicago's Anarchists, 1870-1890 (on ideological fluidity see the chapter titled "Bakunin Never Slept Here"); Staughton Lynd and Andrej Grubacic, Wobblies and Zapatistas: Conversations on Anarchism, Marxism, and Radical History (PM Press, 2008), pp. 13-15, 98-99. Fischer is quoted in Chomsky, "Two Conceptions," p. 131. Lynd (Wobblies and Zapatistas, pp. 14-15) refers to James Green as "the
21. William Greider, "Obama told us to Speak, But is He Listening?" Washington Post, March 22, 2009, B1, read online at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/19/AR2009031902511.html
22. Chomsky, "Some Tasks for Responsible People," p. 153.




Just can't Let Go
By White, Martin at Jul 20, 2009 05:36 AM
One lost rejoinder gone, here is another attempt.
Web culture is a joke - the insults, the ridiculous exchanges, the defensiveness, the petering out of unconnecting blasts, but the last problem is "reckless commenting" - there can be 1892 "comments" on David Beckham's latest contract, and yet political bloggers should be happy and excited to get 5. Comment away - be reckless - just try to spell correctly, OK?
According to Steve, I should not even "pretend" to claim to be "realistic." I can't "pretend" to see overarching continuities? Not even a little? You state that my idea of the supersystem is "completely ahistorical." Yet you seem to certify its thesis, in stating that the US left is weaker than "almost" any country on Earth, which is a fairly strong statement, except for that "almost." Look how much has changed since 1964, you demand? Okay, you go first. Perhaps you could start with the military budget. Or economic inequality. Or the size of the surveillance state. Or the strength of unions. Or the amount of medications purchased. No administering going on, is there?
As for the exasperations and disinclinations expressed by the proprietor of this blog, it's symptomatic of self-aggrandizement. Who are you to dismiss someone's considered opinions? You should be gratified to get honest reaction to your typings. You've heard it all before, you're bored, this is totally wrong, learn to read, learn to write - come on, live a little, have some fun with your fans. Otherwise, just block the comments section, and it will be just like lecturing.
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Final Reflection
By Street, Paul at Jul 20, 2009 13:40 PM
Many of the comments to this essay were very good - thank you. Sad that one ZNet sustainer chose this particular essay (part of the impressive Reimagining Society Project) to make ill-advised and confused personal assaults and that another Sustainer picked it to combine personal viciousness with a revealing statement of hopelessness. It's an odd choice of venue for announcing that you have given up. Most of us have not, thank goodness. Call it pie-in-the-sky but I continue to combine ruthless criticism of existing dominant domestic and imperial power structures and doctrines (and the atrocious "elites" who sit atop these structures and articulate the reigning ideologies) with a belief in not just the necessity but also the possiblity of radical-democratic transformation and the transcendence of the pre-historic profits system.
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Your account of why 'Marx and Engels were wrong'
By D'Arcy, Steve at Jul 17, 2009 20:37 PM
First, let me say that I really, really like the article.
But I do have a couple of constructively critical points to make.
One very minor point is that I find it hard to accept the description of Rosa Luxemburg as a "libertarian socialist," for two reasons: she was a Marxist and it is conventional to use 'libertarian socialist' as a label for anarchism, or at least one strand of anarchism (which she was explicit in rejecting, for principled reasons); and, moreover, she was a collectivist, and if the word "libertarian" is to have any meaning, it ought to imply at least rejecting collectivism.
My more substantial concern relates to the claim that "Marx and Engels were wrong" because they (supposedly) believed that "a revolutionary proletariat...with guidance and assistance from a heroic, clear-eyed, and iron-willed revolutionary 'vanguard'...will sweep the masters of capital into the dustbin of history." This is just a baseless caricature.
Here's a an actual quotation from Marx and Engels: "we cannot ally ourselves with people who openly declare that the workers are too uneducated to free themselves and must first be liberated from above by philanthropic capitalists or middle class reformers." Instead, they insist, "the emancipation of the working classes must be the act of workers themselves." This is at the very centre of their thought. (I defy you to find a quotation in which they say anything about workers needing "guidance from a heroic, clear-eyed and iron-willed" group of any kind.)
Finally, Marx and Engels don't use the word, "vanguard," and if they did they would be among those (like Lenin by the way, not to mention Luxemburg or Pannekoek, who you cite) who use it interchangably with the term "advanced workers," i.e., militant workers influenced by radical politics, not a group of "iron-willed" professional revolutionaries, which is a doctrine promoted by people like Bakunin, and in one of Lenin's early works (1902), influenced as he was at that time by some of the elitist strands in 19th century Russian radicalism, but certainly not by Marx or Engels.
A serious engagement with the work of Marx and Engels, above all their idea of the "self-emancipation of the working class," is crucial for the project that you describe in this article. Deterring people from reading Marx and Engels by spreading myths and mischaracterizations of their writings or their politics can only get in the way. (This, of course, is an idea that Luxemburg and Pannekoek, not to mention Meszaros and Debs, would be only too quick to insist upon.)
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Re: Your account of why 'Marx and Engels were wrong'
By Street, Paul at Jul 17, 2009 23:25 PM
I accept the correction on Marx-Engels (though retain critique of notion of historical teleology/laws and revolutionary class) but don't actually quite call Rosa a libertarian socialist (don't have her confused with Rocker) in the essay....Elsewhere in the essay you can see me quoting Marx on liberation in connection with the self-determining rule of the "associated producers" ( this phrase is used quite well by Meszaros). See note 8, with the use of that key quote from Vol III of Capital. There is much that a libertarian socialist can find in Marx indeed in my opinion.
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Re: Your account of why 'Marx and Engels were wrong'
By Davidson, Carl at Jul 19, 2009 06:53 AM
Marx and Engels were far more right than wrong about most things. They were first of all, historical materialists, not historical teleologists. Apart from general trends, they tended to shy away from making predictions or proclaiming future certainites. But it's true that their 19th Century notions of science had some 'progress-ism' built in. Luckily, we have historical materialists like Stephen Jay Gould, in his book 'Full House,' to enlighten us on the matter.
But why do you want to discard the notion of revolutionary class? By this Marx wasn't talking about what a majority of workers might think about themselves at any given time--although many might be suprised at how progressive a cross-section of workers are on a variety of topics than a cross-section of any other class. No, Marx argued they were revolutionary because of what they were, a class 'bound by radical chains,' meaning that as they freed themselves, they freed all humankind. The converse is true as well--labor in the white skin can never be free as long as in the Black it's branded (Marx) and no nation can be free that oppresses another (Engels).
We need to get a better understanding of 'the Old Mole,' and read him more directly, rather than setting him aside in favor of POMO commentators who never quite got a handle on him in the first place. These days even more so.
Finally, we do well to take practical note of of differences among the population between advanced or progressive, middle and backward, and to encourage organization among the more advanced and militant fighters. That is sorely needed, even if our current supply of self-proclaimed 'vanguard parties' is mostly useless.
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EN ATTENDANT GODOT
By Karman, Leen at Jul 19, 2009 06:28 AM
... and my professor connects my name with just saying that a modern day progressive sneers at such contributions and achievements, and looks in his dictionary for some labels under sneer (2) stickering them to my words - who were by the way his very own words - and tells me: “You see, I did not say you sneered, I said one sneers at the old activists effort. I know how to choose my words very carefully. But look what Webster says of your words. There’s no “may be” about it.”
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L Karman: please read and write more carefully
By Street, Paul at Jul 17, 2009 16:43 PM
Leen Karman - again with you (as once before) the significant misunderstanding and the leap to taking unnecessary offense and then the personal insult (which reflects badly on you as I'm sure you must know). Disturbing.
I did not say you sneered. I said one sneers at the old activists' efforts and achivements at one's moral peril.
Here is your sentence (you may go and change it [you probably should] but here is the direct sentence as it originally appeared in your original comment: "Tell me Paul, what change was it that made your radical labor activists, old time shop-floor CPers, so damned glad that they stuck with their faith based attitude?"
Read it to yourself. Again. Yes, it's a pretty snarky and unpleasant comment. And frankly, I think it may be sneering.
Ok, here is Webster's New World Dictionary: "Sneer...2. to express derision, scorn, or contempt in speech and writing."
There's no "may be" about it.
You need to be more careful with the English language in my opinion. We all do. But you especially, it appears, right now. Please stop your commenting until you read me more carefully, Stop and take a deep breath and re-read and think/ask "am I perhaps getting this wrong?" before shooting off another one of these kinds of comments, ok?
There's too much careless reading and reckless commenting in Web culture. It's a problem.
Take care.
Paul Street
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Response
By Street, Paul at Jul 17, 2009 09:30 AM
I've heard it all before (Martin's comments) from various disappointed ex-leftists from the Sixties (people who are generally 10 or so years older than me and got pretty burned out in the past), usually over too much beer and whiskey. Its just updated version of The God That Failed, with some twists and turns to be sure. And so it goes, as Vonnegut said. To me its just boring. Life is too short and there's too much at stake --- at this point human survival (see below) --- for that sort of despair to hold the day. I certainly understand despair and cynicism. You've either got the fight in you --- the "spiritual' (not mystical or religious or messianic but yes, you bet) X factor ---- or you don't.
Leen Karman they (the more militant rank and file communist cadre, people with the Jedi Knight X factor like Stella Nowicki and Herb March of the old CIO packinghouse union --- just two examples among many from labor's all-too untold story) contributed significantly to the expansion of the industrial workers movement in the 1930s and 1940s. I could say more but will just offer that a modern-day progressive sneers at such contributions at profound moral peril. .
(I might add that these"Reimagining Society"essays are getting some special attention [and archiving] than is usually the case with regular ZNet essays and so this might not be the best place to wax cynical or defeatist!)
Meanwhile we have Meszaro's social-existential point:
Oh, and wrong on half-time speeches. If you don't have the X factor you can't give one that works.
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Response? Could be. - Answers? No!
By Karman, Leen at Jul 17, 2009 15:06 PM
I am not a modern day progressive and I never sneered, sneer or will sneer at people who contribute with their energy to movements aimed at improving conditions for those with fewer possibilities.
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Good Sentiments, yet-
By White, Martin at Jul 15, 2009 15:17 PM
Paul, you're a good man. You are doing fine work. I can't make you into me, nor anyone else. And Noam Chomsky is a good man, a world-class reader. But what in the hell did he mean by "the spiritual transformation of great masses of people"? He really said such balderdash? I represent the other side of the left, where there are about two or three people, who strike most of our erstwhile "comrades" as having , as you once wrote memorably, "nauseating cynicism." The pie-in-thesky quotient of your essay here is off the charts, though I think much of your other work on the detestable Obama is much closer to the "nauseating cynicism" pole than the hopeless romantic of the Kropotkin brigade who sees socialism right around the corner in good ole U.S.A. It's to me a tragic situation: the only good thinkers in America are so deluded about the sociological reality of the supersystem's power, the empire's terrific locks on our social institutions, they must resort to invoking long dead and long bygone heroes to summon any degree of Lincoln Brigade fire. You rightly excoriate "left-liberal" thinking for its tremulous adherence to traditonal structure, but then you see grand "opportunities to reconnect" and fire up the Peace Train, when the reality is laptop drone bombardiers, computer algorithm Goldman Sacks Wall Street monopoly fraud, mortgage disasters, and the rechign of a majority of Americans, for the first time, who call themselves "pro-life." Good luck with your activism, and to all Z others with their righteous "resistance," but damn, what the hell happened to "Realism"?
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A Half-Time Speech....
By Street, Paul at Jul 15, 2009 17:45 PM
Oh, I've addressed this fatalism issue before. Have you ever heard of "Pascal's bargain" and Chomsky's version of it? Look it up (I lack the energy to go find the relevant links) .Another key reference is Gramsci's comment: "pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will." Yes, it's faith-based (for all I know Gramsci came up with that phrase behind fascist prison bars) to some degree perhaps -- and yet absolutely rational at the same time. It's crazy to believe in the chances of revolution but there's something crazier: NOT believing. You lose nothing by believing, but you lose all (even if the "all" is just a 1% chance of radical transformation) by choosing not to believe. Maybe the odds are just 1 in 10, 1 in 20, 1 in 100...terrible, but why then think and act (or refuse to act) in such a way as to make sure that the chances are 0 in 100? That's just suicidal for the species if my opening sections are right (and they are). Belief and spiritual commitment (you are wrong if you think that is only about mysterious religion) are material forces in history. To me this is very elementary. If it is all in fact irrevocably tragic and hopeless than at least find that out resisting..."storming heaven," as Marx said of Paris Communards. You say "good luck" on activism but its not about luck (or the crystal ball.)..its about a socially conscious existential decision to interject as much democratic-collectivist human agency into the making of history as one can. I used to interview a few old time radical labor activists (many of them old time shop-floor CPers) from the 1930s and while they had few illusions about history (interviews took place in the Reagan era) they were damn glad they'd rejected the attitude you expressed. They still had that X factor that makes a great organizer (faith is a big part of that factor). Furthermore the odds are better than you might think. History does not move in a linear way alone; there are qualitiative leaps and bounds and many "surprises" that end up making sense in retrospect. It is, dare I say, dialectical. And so ends my half-time speech. Now get out there and kick some capitalist tail!
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Re: A Half-Time Speech....
By White, Martin at Jul 17, 2009 05:49 AM
Speaking as a former coach, half-time speeches are pure nonsense. - rah-rah stupidity. So, yeah, I wasted a good deal of precious youth and young adulthood on that, and explains my resistance to your exhortations.
Pascal's wager is a dumb wager, whether in the specious arena of religious "belief" or political "belief." Here Chomksy is being a condescending pedant. Action is what counts, and we can perform action in any mood, with any type of cognitive arrangement: doubt, anger, full-blown ideological subservience. "Assume the worst, and it will surely happen" - Really? The world revolveds around your mental state? The human social world is much bigger than us, responds to great and complex social forces, so if you assume the worst, it may or may not happen.
"Belief" is not necessary, at all - we think, conditionally, as David Eller, a vastly under-rated academic atheist ,has explained. We lose all by "believing" in untruth and distortion and pious cant - but we will gain a more enjoyable world if we start seeing the clear social forces at work in our lives, give them their due appreciation for ruining and dominating our collective lives, see ourselves as being constrained by their enduring and dispiriting bonds, and then find some means to construct a day's run against that prevailing wind. You can do it your way, but I think slogans, whether from Stalinists or Hallmark, are to be rejected - you don't need "optimism of the will" to get out of bed, but you do need some form of cynicism, whether "nauseating" in the form of nihilism, or moderate in the form of abjuring the Obama con, to retain some vestige of intellectual honesty on this planet.
If we expect "spiritual transformations," we are headed nowhere.Slight alterations in the supersystem: now we're in the realm of reality.
For all of the left's great pronouncements and heraldry since its early days, it has been the one getting its ass kicked. Whatever progress can be discerned over the long-term since our cave fire days, we live in the present of our circumstances, and though most people need some of that "faith" you talk about to establish some purpose in their lives, I would rather evaluate our current predicament by larger standards of moral justice. Score: neocon/neolib 35, "left" 2. Game on!
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Re: A Half-Time Speech....
By Karman, Leen at Jul 17, 2009 06:19 AM
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Re: Re: A Half-Time Speech....
By McGehee, Michael at Jul 17, 2009 07:21 AM
I asked Noam about his religious or spiritual beliefs. He said the question made no sense since the terms are so broad that unless its specifically defined he doesnt know how to answer. so i ran through the Abrahamic concept of an immaterial soul and god as a supernatural, omnipotenet, omniprescient, omnibenevolent deity.
here is his response:
"The obvious answer is that the proposal makes no sense. If they [believers, people of faith] want to believe it, fine. If they want to believe that Apollo pulls the sun across the sky in a chariot, fine too."
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Re: Re: A Half-Time Speech....
By McGehee, Michael at Jul 17, 2009 07:18 AM
martin, you really projected more into that chomsky quote than there really is. Noam's use of "spiritual" is synonymous with consciousness and not some Abrahamic concept of a supernatural soul. He is saying that the prospects for revolutionary change depend on a broad change in human consciousness/spiritual transformation. i am so confident of that that i will put a "wager" on it.
and Noam's Wager is valid: do nothing and ensure no success or do something have at the very least the potential for success. It's basically the same as "nothing ventured, nothing gained." Im not entirely sure what is so "dumb" about that.
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Re: Re: A Half-Time Speech....
By D'Arcy, Steve at Jul 17, 2009 19:45 PM
Martin White writes: "Slight alterations in the supersystem: now we're in the realm of reality."
I don't object to you believing that. It is a chronic reality that the Left, in the widest sense, is differentiated, and people fall at various points along a continuum of greater or lesser openness to aiming for radical social transformation. There will always be people with that belief.
However, I do object to you claiming that it is "realistic." The idea that, in the modern world (especially), any social system (or "supersystem") can maintain that kind of stability is highly implausible, and in particular completely ahistorical. It reminds me of (among other things) the fact that Herbert Marcuse wrote "One-Dimensional Man," which was about how all dissent had become impossible in a "totally administered" world, in 1964 (i.e., 4 years before 1968). But look how much has changed, even in the USA where the Left is weaker than in almost any country on earth, since 1964? But somehow we're supposed to beleive that in the next 100 years nothing else will change. History used to happen, but no more (starting now).
Again, you can believe it. But please don't pretend that your view is "realistic." It is actually quite fantastical, and it seems to presuppose that some kind of sci-fi "supersystem" (like Marcuse's one-dimensional society) has been created. It is the stuff of dystopian novels, not realistic social analysis.
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The difference between Libertarians and Lefties is this:
By Kane, Paul at Jul 13, 2009 23:31 PM
Libertarians fetishize property, and not just a little. They are crazy over it. But many can be weaned away from this. They will see, given the chance, that lefties don't hate property. We honor it. But we DON'T worship it.
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Another Current
By Shadwell, Stuart at Jul 13, 2009 16:20 PM
I work at a book store and a lot of people still buy into old Ayn Rand and Ron Paul Bunyon.
They are quite wary of everything that is going on but they think that its because there
isn't pure capitalism. Provided, these people are not and could never be capitalists because
they will never own the means of production. Even Ayn Rand and Ron Paul are only
"well paid spokesmen for capitalism," in the words of a former teacher of mine.
None-the-less it's a tendency moving parrallel to those who edge to anarchism and
socialism. Although, on some social issues there is some overlap between the two groups.
I'm curious to what your thoughts are on how can we can begin to demystify
right-libertarianism?
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Re: Another Current
By Street, Paul at Jul 13, 2009 19:23 PM
Well, I think in discussions with non-left/non-socialist libertarians (and I had a few such discussions in Iowa City thanks to the Ron Paul phenomenon in late 2007), you achieve some good will by noting common ground on things like opposition to the war on drugs and to state regulation of sexuality and indeed to empire (I heard Ron Paul criticize "U.S empire" in practically Chomsky-like language for a minute or two in a GOP presidential in late 2007 or early 2008...should have seen the look on Mitt Romney and John McCain's faces). Then you have to confront them with some concrete reflections: on how the modern corporation (a rather dramatic form of institutional tyranny/concentrated power to say the least) is in fact a natural outgrowth of their much beloved "free market" (its useful here to cite Alfred DuPont Chandler's remarkable book The Visible Hand [1976], a flawed but masterful history of the rise of the modern "managerial business enterprise" in late 19th and early 20th century U.S.); on how their doctrine applied to 21st Century conditions would essentially amount to permitting Iowa Beef Processors and General Electric to introduce full blown indentured servitude or slavery; and on how in fact actual historical North American chattel slavery was largely a "rational" propertied-class response to market logic and the profit motive.
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Re: Another Current
By McGehee, Michael at Jul 14, 2009 07:49 AM
Ron Paul Bunyon? LOL. I love it.
Dr. No has voted for extensive corporate welfare in the past and he wants to do away with social security. That last one is scarier than his lofty, delusional free market rhetoric.
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Re: Re: Another Current
By Shadwell, Stuart at Jul 14, 2009 11:48 AM
Yeah, I've had a lot of fun with that one. I don't underestimate him though, he has captured the hearts of a lot of young folks. I'd like to see him debate it out with the likes of Ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney.
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Krugman column (today) and response (below)
By Street, Paul at Jul 13, 2009 09:24 AM
See Paul Krugman today in NYT: we are the proverbial frogs boiling in the water of economic and ecological crisis. On the latter he says:"if the consensus of the economic experts is grim, the consensus of the climate experts is utterly terrifying. At this point, the central forecast of leading climate models — not the worst-case scenario but the most likely outcome — is utter catastrophe, a rise in temperatures that will totally disrupt life as we know it, if we continue along our present path. How to head off that catastrophe should be the dominant policy issue of our time."
"But it isn’t, because climate change is a creeping threat rather than an attention-grabbing crisis. The full dimensions of the catastrophe won’t be apparent for decades, perhaps generations. In fact, it will probably be many years before the upward trend in temperatures is so obvious to casual observers that it silences the skeptics. Unfortunately, if we wait to act until the climate crisis is that obvious, catastrophe will already have become inevitable."
"...I don’t know the answer. And that’s why I keep thinking about boiling frogs."
Earth to Krugman: the profits system (including its' inherently bastardized fake democracy) is the "endgame of humanity" (Roy). It is (as Krugman's hero Keynes sensed) incapable of long-term planning and action for the common good. And, to quote Marx, Capital, vol.III (see note 8 above): "The realm of freedom...can only consist in socialized man, the associated producers rationally regulating their interchange with Nature, bringing it under their common control, instead of being ruled by it as by the blind force of Nature, and achieving this with the least expenditure of energy and under conditions most favorable to, and worthy of, their human nature...."
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Re: Krugman column (today) and response (below)
By McGehee, Michael at Jul 13, 2009 12:40 PM
he doesnt know the answer because he would rather think about frogs.
these crises have made it somewhat easier to talk about the "answers" to people who normally would have no interest or care in radicalism.
to talk about profits, property rights, (un)employment, division of labor, progressive taxation (ie inheritance, social security, the environment) is easier now that more explicit connections can be made.
before the bubble popped lots of folks thought everything was fine.
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