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By David Peterson at May 26, 2006 |
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The Guardian's Emma Brockes, here shown re-enacting how she accidentally, inadvertently, "partially recorded over" the "most contentious" eighteen-and-a-half minute segment of the audiotape from her interview with Noam Chomsky in his office at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 2005.
"My heel must have gotten caught on one of the electrical switches," Brockes explained. "Before I knew it, the segment where Chomsky denied the genocide in Bosnia and denied that the Srebrenica massacre was a massacre had been recorded over."
Had The Guardian wanted to be scrupulously fair to everyone interested in reporter Emma Brockes's actual interview with fellow ZNet blogger Noam Chomsky---as opposed to the selective and damning version of the interview constructed by Brockes et al. and published last Halloween---The Guardian would have made a transcript of the complete interview available to the public at some point. Certainly by no later than November 1, 2005.
But The Guardian never did make a transcript available. Either because a transcript truly can not be produced. (See par. 17 of the "External Ombudsman Report," where John Willis writes that "The original interview was tape recorded but unfortunately the tape has been partially recorded over. A transcript of sorts exists but the most contentious section of the interview was not available on tape. No one seems to doubt that this was genuine."---Though I must say right here that Willis' explanation sounds as if straight out of Richard Nixon's days in the Oval Office.) Or because one or more principals behind Emma Brockes's mock interview with NC decided at some stage against making a complete transcript available---and saw to it therefore that no copy of the original audiotape would survive on the basis of which a transcript could be made.
Either way, however, it was The Guardian that permitted the affair to devolve into a case of "He said -- She said."
But beyond this, I still believe that it's worth speculating that the Halloween version of the interview betrayed a pre-determined agenda on Brockes et al.'s part. For how else could an approx. 60-minute interview in NC's office at MIT wind up producing the version of it that The Guardian eventually did publish---in particular, the published version's focus on the wars over the former Yugoslavia, NC's belief about these wars, the accusations of "genocide" denial with respect to them, and the like? You know. As if this were, if not the whole point of the 60-minute MIT interview, at least its primary focus?
My hunch all along has been that the agenda of Brockes et al. going in was to bait NC on issues pertaining to the former Yugoslavia over which Brockes et al. were determined to "catch" him. And in order to carry this out, baiting inquiries about Diana Johnstone's superb work on the former Yugoslavia, and NC's relation to it, also were used.
Just look at the cast of characters who seized upon the Halloween version of the interview, and The Guardian's eventual Nov. 17 "correction" with respect to it. (See, e.g., the 25 signatures affixed to "Srebrenica -- defending the truth," Marko Attila Hoare et al., Bosnia Report, December - March, 2006; and, of course, the three authors of "Chomsky, The Guardian and Bosnia," David Aaronovitch, Oliver Kamm, and Francis Wheen (as posted to the Ollie Kamm weblog on March 20, 2006).)Emma Brockes went into her MIT interview with NC with the intent of doing something similar to what she eventually did in the Halloween version of this mock interview. The fact that, somehow or other, the audiotape of the interview is alleged to have been inadvertently erased---but especially what the External Ombudsman refers to as the “the most contentious section of the interview”---is simply too convenient to be believed. So, last Halloween, The Guardian published a hatchet job on NC. And The Guardian used the kind of material dearest to the people who executed it---the wars over the former Yugoslavia, administering to NC the Bosnia “genocide” and Srebrenia massacre tests, and baiting him to denounce Srebrenica massacre and Bosnia genocide "deniers” such as Diana Johnstone. Then, rather than simply dismissing out of hand the irrelevant complaints about its decision to publish a "correction" about the mock interview, The Guardian permitted these complaints and the guys who signed them to drive its agenda, all the way to the ultimate stage of turning the matter over to an External Ombudsman.
My opinion.
"The Greatest Intellectual?" Emma Brockes, The Guardian, Halloween, 2005 (as posted to the Chomsky.Info website)
"Corrections and clarifications: The Guardian and Noam Chomsky," Ian Mayes, The Guardian, November 17, 2005
"The Bosnian war was brutal, but it wasn't a Holocaust," Diana Johnstone, The Guardian, November 23, 2005
"Open Door: The readers' editor on...a complaint about a controversial correction," Ian Mayes, The Guardian, December 12, 2005
"Readers' editor right to publish apology, external review finds," The Guardian (unsigned), May 25, 2006
"External Ombudsman Report," John Willis, May 8, 2006 (as posted to The Guardian, May 25, 2006)
"Srebrenica -- defending the truth," Marko Attila Hoare et al., Bosnia Report, December - March, 2006
"Chomsky, The Guardian and Bosnia," David Aaronovitch, Oliver Kamm,and Francis Wheen (as posted to the Ollie Kamm weblog on March 20, 2006)"Open Letter to The Guardian," James Bisset et al., January, 2006
"'Thick as Autumnal Leaves': The Guardian's Mock Interview with Noam Chomsky," ZNet, November 6, 2005
"'Serpents All': More on The Guardian's Mock Interview with Noam Chomsky," ZNet, November 12, 2005
"OOPS! The Guardian Retracts...," ZNet, November 17, 2005
"Ollie Kamm," ZNet, December 12, 2005
"Rosemary Woods, Meet Emma Brockes," ZNet, May 26, 2006
Clinton/Albright responsible for not preventing Rwanda genocide
By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 08, 2006 03:08 AM
Hi David,
Thought you might like this reply of mine in response to a post from Noam's blog entitled "Shut Down the UN" available at:
http://blogs.zmag.org/node/2562#comment-55583
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"And don't forget that ten years ago thousands of Bosnian Muslims
were murdered by the Serb militias who were in a UN protected “safe haven” with hundreds of UN soldiers assigned to defend them. Yet the UN stood by while the entire adult and teenage male
population was systematically butchered."
Sir, this claim is dead WRONG. The only "systematic butchering" that really took place in Srebrenica while the UN peacekeepers apathetically "stood by" (and which the UN top brass at New York's headquarters turned a blind eye and deaf ear to) was the hideously brutal slaughter of over 3,800 Serbian CIVILIANS - mainly elderly men, women and young children from early 1992 to July 1995 - by Alija Izetbegovic's SDA party Bosnian Islamist fundamentalist Nazi faction warlord, Mr. Naser Oric (recently freed by the NATO owned ICTY "war crimes tribunal" after serving only 2 and a half years!!).This brutal slaughter, whilst NOT specifically denied by NATO, the NATO owned ICTY or the Bush Administration, is NEVER referred to as "genocide".
See my below comment post on the UK "Scotsman" newspaper concerning this vile NATO obscenity and affront to humanity (available at: http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=973262006):
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Dear John, you write that:
"Naser Oric is just as guilty as Gen. Ratko Mladic even if he didn't kill as many."
How is General Ratko Mladic "guilty" exactly? What evidence do you have that he ordered or participated in the alleged killing of "...some 8,000 Muslim men and boys in Europe's worst atrocity since the Second World War."
After 11 years the NATO owned ICTY at The Hague has failed to produce a shred of evidence to support the charge that Mladic and/or Karadzic ordered the execution of 8,000 of the late Alija Izetbegovic's troops. For example, the overwhelming majority of bodies examined have NOT been identified as Bosnian muslims (see http://www.srebrenica-report.com and http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/branco-1.htm).
Even the Izetbegovic SDA Bosnian Islamists admit that 5,000 of their troops made it safely to the town of Tuzla through Izetbegovic's SDA held "Bosniak" Islamist lines - troops who were later on re-incorporated into Izetbegovic's "Bosniak" army. Add to this the approximately 3,000 of Izetbegovic's troops who according to the Red Cross also left the area WITHOUT their families being informed, and you discover how they came up with the figure of 8,000 supposedly executed.
See:
http://emperor.vwh.net/articles/pumphrey/Srebrenica.html
http://www.srebrenica-report.com/defense.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/refutat.htm
This alleged moral equivalence between Mladic and Oric is WRONG. Mladic's guilt for the alleged execution of 8,000 of Izetbegovic's troops has not been PROVEN with any documented evidence by NATO - all we have is ASSERTIONS made by the NATO-owned ICTY. Simultaneously we have the documented massacres of 3,870 Serbian civilians by Oric from 1992 to 1995 - which has been confirmed by UN officials and blue helmet "peacekeepers" on the ground at the time -such as French UN general Phillipe Morillon in testimony under oath at the late Milosevic's "trial" by NATO's ICTY.
Oric's massacres of 3,800+ Serbian civilians have NOT been specifically denied by NATO, NATO's ICTY or the UN itself, but have simply been whitewashed and COVERED UP.
Oric was a cold blooded killer who BOASTED to reporters of the Washington Post and Toronto Star about how he murdered Serbian CIVILIANS - elderly men, women and children - mostly by cracking skulls with iron bars & sledgehammers, as well as beheading & dismemberment with axes,knives, daggers and machetes. See
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/oric.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/fulltext.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/gorazde.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/texts2.htm
http://slobodan-milosevic.org/news/smorg030904.htm
All of this has been rigorously documented in official United Nations documents A/48/177, S/25835 and A/47/813, S/24991 describing the hideous murders and rapes of Serbian civilians in and around Srebrenica and other nearby Bosnian towns and villages - available at:
http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/mem.htm
http://www.srebrenica-report.com/docs/UN-1993-1.pdf
The UN document A/47/813, S/24991 on rape by Bosnian Muslim & Croat forces in Bosnia in 1992 can be read at: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/rapes/raped-serbs.html
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As far as who was most guilty at the UN headquarters in New York for failing to prevent the Rwandan genocide, the evidence is quite clear that it was then US ambassador to the UN, the Clinton Administration's Madeleine Albright. See one of my posts from my blog.
Here is an excerpt below:
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Last year, in April 2004, on the 10th anniversary of the [genuine] Rwanda genocide, on an Australian current affairs program [the ABC 7:30 Report], they had a former "UN war crimes prosecutor" who made the following comment:
"Fortunately, in Kosovo, even though a lot of peopledid lose their lives, NATO was not as slow as whathappened, for example, in Rwanda and Bosnia."
This comment implies that what happened in Rwanda was a result of the US Clinton Administration and NATO being "slow" to act, and that while this contributed to the genocide in Rwanda, at least in the case ofKosovo this "slowness" on the part of the US Clinton Administration and NATO was miraculously avoided.Nothing could be further from the truth - in both instances.
The US government, along with NATO states knew EXACTLY what was going on in Rwanda - but patently refused to call it by its properterm-i.e.,genocide;unlike in Kosovo, where the term 'genocide' was frivolously being bandied about by NATO governments even BEFORE the bombing by US/NATO aircraft commenced.
In fact it was NOT a matter of being "slow" to act inthe case of Rwanda - and "quick" to act in the case of Kosovo; it was actually a matter of outright REFUSAL bythe Clinton/Albright team to acknowledge that genocide was happening in Rwanda and then deliberately obstructing-at every turn- every effort by UNpeacekeepers to prevent the genocide of up to 800,000 people.
Why did the US Clinton Administration do this? One possible answer can be found at the following url:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO305A.html
In a report by an eminent panel entitled "Rwanda: The Preventable Genocide" by the Organization for African Unity [now the African Union-released in May 2000] it is openly declared that even though the US was fullyaware that genocide was occurring in Rwanda, then-US ambassador to the UN, Madeleine Albright, was responsible for "playing the key role" in "tossing uproadblocks" at the UN to "..prevent effective action" to stop the genocide.
Isn't it strange how Clinton and Albright were ACTIVELY involved in direct actions at the UN to ensure that the Rwanda genocide took place [ which is far worse and completely different to doing 'nothing' at all] and yet claim that they were intervening on the side of of a known terrorist organization [the KLA] in Kosovo and siding with the Iranian-backed Islamist regime of Alija Izetbegovic [a known Osama bin Laden ally] in Bosnia because they were allegedly trying to "prevent genocide"? It just ISN'T credible.
See the story at:
http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2001/6.html
The report can be viewed in its entirety at:
http://www.visiontv.ca/RememberRwanda/Report.pdf
As terrible as the carnage committed by all three sides was during the Bosnian civil war from '92 to'95, it certainly did NOT qualify as anything approaching genocide [i.e the literal dictionary meaning of the word] of any single ethnic group in thewar [i.e., deliberate extermination of an entire people].
See for example the articles by the prestigious International Strategic Studies Association at: http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1703.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1903.htm
Nor did what occurred in Kosovo in 1999 (max. 2,200 to 2,500 deaths in total for all civilian and military personnel on ALL sides from ALL causes-including "accidental" NATO bombing of civilian victims) qualify as genocide either-despite Clinton/NATO claims to the contrary.
See for example the article by renowned Canadian author, Professor Michel Chossudovsky: "NATO'S CLAIM OF ETHNIC CLEANSING CHALLENGED" at:
http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/chossudovsky/ethnic.htm
Since June '99, at least 95% of the pre-war non-Albanian minority population of 19 distinct ethnic groups [amounting to approximately 350,000 people] has been ethnically cleansed from the province under the very supervision of NATO troops who were supposed to be protecting them.
The NATO bombing of Serbia/Kosovo in 1999 had less to do with preventing genocide and more to do with "regime change" in Belgrade just as the 2003 war in Iraq had less to do with preventing an attack by WMD and more to do with installing a compliant regime in Baghdad.
The attempt by US and NATO governments to exonerate themselves by, in effect, saying [to paraphrase]:
"Well we know that 800,000 people were masscared in Rwanda and it's really an unfortunate and sad thing we didn't prevent it because we were just too slow to act, but hey, at least we prevented genocide in Kosovo and you have to give us credit for that"
is a lame and specious argument not supported by the facts.
Regards,
Peter Robert North.
PS: The Srebrenica Hoax was a Cover Up for Clinton's support of Alija Izetbegovic: a fanatical Al Qaeda Islamist Jihad supporter and close friend of Osama bin Laden and KNOWN WAR CRIMINAL Naser Oric [to top it all off, the terrorist KLA leader was Agim Ceku - also a KNOWN WAR CRIMINAL -who worked with the brother of Osama bin Laden's #2 man, Dr. Ayman Al Zawahiri - also another Al Qaeda fanatic supported by Clinton and NATO]
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2005/12/exposing-sbs-bias-censorship-hypocrisy.html
"...Holbrooke, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and the Clinton White House all played key rôles in supporting the Islamists who, as it transpired, were consistently working with al-Qaida and the Iranian Government, among others, in planning major terrorist attacks on the US. Amb. Hays worked closely with Mr Holbrooke in the UN during this period. As a result, it was now seen as important that this pattern of support for people who were later seen to be involved in terrorist actions against the US should not be allowed to emerge, particularly in the build-up to the elections, which were regarded as being critical to Sen. Hillary Clinton and former NATO Supreme Allied Commander-Europe (SACEUR) Gen. Clark."**********************************************************************
International Strategic Studies Association, Washington DC: GIS Special Topical Reports - Balkan Strategic Studies: October 20, 2003.
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct20%2003.htm
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International Strategic Studies Association, Washington DC: GIS Special Topical Reports - Balkan Strategic Studies: The New Rome & The New Religious Wars, March 1999.
"Little wonder that numerous US policy analysts, eventhose who are hostile to Yugoslavia as a basic stance,
are extremely uncomfortable with the Clinton
Administration's close ties with the KLA.
"There is no doubt that the involvement of the two
brothers al-Zawahiri in the two movements is not
coincidental. Ben Works, director of the Strategic
Research Institute of the US, noted: "There's no doubt
that bin Laden's people have been in Kosovo helping to
arm, equip and train the KLA. . . . The [US]
Administration's policy in Kosovo is to help bin
Laden. It almost seems as if the Clinton
Administration's policy is to guarantee more
terrorism."
"Noted strategic analyst and columnist, former US Army
Colonel Harry Summers, said on August 12, 1998, that
in Kosovo, the US found itself "championing the very
Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups who are our
mortal enemies elsewhere".
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Rome.htm
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For more evidence of the above concerning the true character of the late Alija Izetbegovic - that of a pro-Islamist Jihad/al Qaeda radical Islamist fundamentalist Nazi - as well as further details on what really happened in Kosovo and Srebrenica, see:
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija1.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija2.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija3.htm
http://www.srebrenica-report.com
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/freezer1.htm
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/
http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm
http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1999/fr033199.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/guide-yugo.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ranta.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/kosovo.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct0703.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1703.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1903.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct1503.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct0903.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct1603.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct20%2003.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Jun1503.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep0803.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Aug3193.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Genocide.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Dec3192-2.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Rome.htm
http://www.espritdecorps.ca/new_page_220.htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO310B.html
http://michaelparenti.org/yugoslavia.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MOS20050803&articleId=795
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=HER20051229&articleId=1667
http://emperors-clothes.com/bosnia/svijet.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/branco-1.htm
http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/documents/srebrenica.pdf
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ex-Clinton 'peace envoy' Richard Holbrooke- beneficiary of KLA Narco Terrorist Child Sex Slavery Mafia - gets president of Hague ICTY to free ex-Kosovo PM and KLA war criminal, Ramush Haradinaj, IN ADVANCE of his "surrender" to The Hague ICTY: "a deal would be struck to ensure that he did not serve prison time for the charges he faced."
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US Policy in the Balkans and the Eastern Mediterranean: Time to Stop Choosing Sides, and to Start Choosing Strategic Interests
By Gregory R. Copley,
President, the International Strategic Studies Association.[1]
Presented at the Capitol Hill Conference on
FYROM: The Need for Reassessment of US Policy in the Balkans.
Longworth House of Representatives Office Building,
Washington, DC: April 14, 2005
"The fact that the KLA leader and, until March 8, 2005, Prime Minister of Kosovo, Ramush (Hilmi) Haradinaj, was indicted for war crimes and taken to The Hague for trial still has not penetrated the consciousness of what is transpiring. Moreover, in order to somewhat ease the embarrassment of having backed the wrong side — the side of al-Qaida, the narco-traffickers, the true genocidal xenophobists, and the criminal gangs — in Kosovo, the US is in some ways actively working to let Mr Haradinaj out of prison, so that he can “fight his legal battle from a position of freedom”.
"This is a man charged with having directly and personally killed many innocent people, not a politician who allegedly allowed things to happen by default. The scandal of this particular case has yet to break, but suffice it to say that Albanian mafia linked to the KLA have worked through former US Assistant Secretary of State Richard Holbrooke — a close associate of the KLA and a beneficiary of its support — to approach the US President of the International Criminal Tribunal on the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), Theodore Meron, to see Haradinaj released.[4] There are reports from within the ICTY that the State Department would approve the release of Haradinaj, and had, in fact, agreed with Haradinaj in advance of his surrender to the ICTY, that a deal would be struck to ensure that he did not serve prison time for the charges he faced."
4] Meron, a professor of law at New York University, was a member of the US official delegation to the Rome talks in 1998, at which the establishment of the International Criminal Court (ICC) was discussed. At that conference, he reflected the US line, which was in complete opposition to the foundation of the ICC, but subsequently accepted to be President of the ICC's subsidiary court, the ICTY.
http://www.macedoniansincanada.com/Grecory%20R.%20Copley.htm
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http://www.kosovo.net/ramush.html
"In 1999, the KLA unit under Ramush Haradinaj's command killed 40 civilians from the Kosovo village of Glodjani and threw the bodies into the Radonjic Lake canal."
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Now the United Nations is investigating him after a shooting incident, an investigation which the US has tried to interfere with. Here are the facts:In June, 1999, Ramush ordered the killing of four members of FARK (Armed Forces of the Republic of Kosovo), a rival group to the KLA. As is Albanian custom, the brothers of one dead man went to the father of Ramush to ask for their brother's bones. Ramush later that night went to the brothers, of the Musaj family, where a shooting incident took place.
Ramush was helicoptered to the US base in Kosovo, Camp Bondsteel and then to a United States military hospital in Germany to receive treatment. He is at present in Washington, the guest of congressman Benjamin Gillman, raising funds for his political party before next October's elections in Kosovo.
United Nations investigators into this incident claim that while Ramush was away, Unites States officials left Bondsteel, went to the village of Strellic, where the incident took place, and removed forensic evidence that Ramush had been present, including the act of taking bullets from walls.
United Nations police reports link Ramush to two well-known Albanian Mafia men, Naser Kelmendi and Ekrem Lluka. Lluka is suspected by UN police of being involved actively in the trafficking of drugs in Kosovo, Greece, Italy and Albania.
British military sources, who asked to remain unnamed, classified Ramush as “a psychopath”.
“Someone would pass him information and he would disappear for two hours. The result would be several bodies in a ditch”.
http://www.kosovo.net/ramush.html (Photographs and excerpts from article on details of atrocities against Kosovo Serbs perpetrated by US/UK ally KLA commander & ex-Kosovo Prime Minister, Ramush Haradinaj)
" At the end of 1999 the chief prosecutor of the Hague tribunal, Carla del Ponte, announced that an investigation had been started regarding war crimes against the non-Albanian population in Kosovo. The investigation was almost completely blocked until recently because information was not forthcoming from either side, the spokeswoman of the prosecutor's office of the Hague tribunal, Florence Hartmann (Florence Hartmann-Domankusic), told "Reporter". The new government in Serbia, according to Hartmann, has submitted all documentation to The Hague. "Indictments will be issued only against those persons against whom we have evidence," she explained. Zoran Zivkovic, the Yugoslav minister of internal affairs, told "Reporter" that "more than 30 kilograms of various documents were turned over to the head of the office of the Hague tribunal in Belgrade." In the meanwhile, the investigators of this tribunal have collected about 80 testimonials from family members of the missing and witnesses.
Despite increasingly frequent public discussion (in Serbia) that Agim Cheku, Hashim Thaci and Ramush Haradinaj are under investigation by the Hague tribunal, Hartmann said that "the investigation is in progress", however, she added that she "never confirmed that these three men are under investigation."
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Update on Mr.Daniel Lam - Srebrenica Nazi LIAR strikes again!!
By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 07, 2006 13:13 PM
I lost 17 relatives in the Holocaust. They were killed by Serbian chetniks.
Please read my latest article in it's entirety:
http://balkan-studies.blogspot.com/2006/06/serbia-carried-holocaust-against-jews.html
Thanks.
Gabriel Piterberg
10:11 AM
[For those unfamiliar with Mr.Daniel Lam of Quebec, Canada, he is a mentally deranged, obnoxious,incredibly rude and profane,incorrible teenage Bosnian Islamist Nazi COWARD and a fan of notorious Bosnian Islamist Nazi mass murderer, Naser Oric (recently freed by the pro-Nazi NATO owned ICTY) whom posts under numerous aliases in order to hide his identity - a Bosnian Islamist teenager with an awful lot of time on his hands - whom claims that less than 2,000 Serbs in TOTAL - both civilian & military - died in Bosnia in THREE & A HALF YEARS OF BITTER INTERNECINE WARFARE with the Izetbegovic SDA Islamis Nazi faction.]
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2006/06/mr-daniel-lam-author-of-srebrenica.html]
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2006/03/open-letter-to-mr-daniel-lam-of-quebec.html
Daniel,you really are undermining your credibility with this kind of CRETINOUS, IMBECILIC & puerile deception.
You are about as Jewish as Adolf Eichmann was.
Mr.Lam, PLEASE stop doing such silly things as the above post and your latest identity - amongst dozens of others- this time as a supposed Jew whose relatives were supposedly murdered by the anti-Nazi pro-Allied anti-Communist Royalist "Chetnik" Serbs.
This totally PHONY new blog of yours under an assumed Jewish name only undermines and further erodes your microscopically infinitesimal "credibility" and that of your imbecilic,brain-dead pro-Nazi Islamist friends, such as the Scottish Liberal Democrats' proven LIAR, Mr.Norman Fraser (See http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2006/06/trnopolje-omarska-2-examples-of.html).
Cheeers!!! And have a NICE and happy day, Daniel.
Peter Robert North
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PS: For further info on the who the real Nazis were in WW2 Yugoslavia as well as NOW, see:
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Jan1995.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Genocide.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Dec3192-2.htm
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0DE1E30F933A25751C0A967958260
http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Balkanindex.htm
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Reply to Peter Robert North (Mon, 2006-06-12 18:44)
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 13, 2006 16:23 PM
Peter:
My hunch is that Chomsky is no more an "anti-Serb intellectual" than he is an "anti-American intellectual" or an "anti-Jewish intellectual." (And on to infinity.)
But epithets are easily hurled. Clearly.
Good luck on determining whom this "Raoul Djukanovic" really is.---I'd love to know.
One thing is fairly certain, however: He isn't related to "Montenegro's tall, sleek, handsome and wily Prime Minister, Milo Djukanovic" (The Independent, May 27, 2006).
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Noam's position vis-a-vis the Yugoslav Serbs & NATO/OSCE
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 12, 2006 18:44 PM
Hi David,
Thank you so very much for clarifying everything here by going to the trouble of supplying so many reference sources - it is very much appreciated. So, on that basis, it appears that Mr. Jared Israel's statement that Noam really was, in the words of Mr. Israel, an "anti-Serb intellectual" is clearly wrong. Why do you think Mr. Israel believes that Noam is "an anti-Serb intellectual"? Is it because Noam said something in the past which tended to agree with what the corporate media and NATO/Washington were saying vis-a-vis the Yugoslav Serbs and Kosovo?
David, I will also do my best to help you find out who "Raoul Djukanovic" really is. Trust me, I'm good at finding out these things :-)
Take care,
Peter.
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Reply to Peter Robert North (Sun, 2006-06-11 18:46)
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 11, 2006 19:22 PM
Peter:
A few comments.
First, in the quote attributed to Jared Israel, notice exactly how it begins: "Anti-Serb intellectuals like Noam Chomsky...."
Second, about your final paragraph: It's important that we consider (for example) A New Generation Draws the Line: Kosovo, East Timor and the Standards of the West (Verso, 2000), the whole of Ch. 3, "Kosovo in Retrospect" (pp. 94-147---though also any place else you'd care to suggest). Throughout, the treatment Chomsky doles out to the major official sources from within the aggressor states is always the same. These sources are:
The Prosecutor of the Tribunal Against Slobodan Milosevic et al. (IT-99-37), Louise Arbour, ICTY, May 22, 1999. (Also amended indictments I and II .)
Erasing History: Ethnic Cleansing in Kosovo, U.S. Department of State, May, 1999
Ethnic Cleansing in Kosovo: An Accounting, U.S. Department of State, December, 1999
Building Peace in Kosovo (Homepage), U.S. Department of State (electronic archive of material that predates January 20, 2001)
KOSOVO/KOSOVA: As Seen, As Told, (Part I: October 1998 - June 1999; and Part II: June 14 - October 31, 1999), Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe
Thus, for example, Chomsky acknowledges that (New Generation, pp. 98-99):
In the two State Department reports and the Tribunal indictment [a point that also holds true of amended indictments I and II of Milosevic over Kosovo, please note well], the detailed chronologies are restricted, almost entirely, to the period that followed the bombing campaign initiated on March 24, 1999. Thus, the final State Department report of December 1999 refers vaguely to "late March" or "after March," apart from a single reference to refugee reports of an execution on March 23, two days after the air operation had been announced, a day after NATO's official declaration that they were about to begin. The State Department is therefore instructing us, in the clearest terms, that the crimes of "Milosevic's willing executioners" were not a motive for the bombing: the crimes followed the bombing, according to the State Department's definitive case against Milosevic, and were precipitated by it, it is only rational to assume.
The one significant exception is the January 15 1999 Racak of forty-five people....
Similar arguments follow. But this is not a critique of the factual claims put forth by the highest official sources about whether or not forty-five unarmed ethnic Albanians were rounded up in the vicinity of Racak and executed by Serbian forces on or about January 15, 1999; about whether or not, at some time in late 1998 or early 1999, "Milosevic [had] approved Operation Horseshoe---a plan of truly evil proportions designed to ethnically reengineer Kosovo by pushing much of its civilian population permanently out of the province" ("Was It A Mistake? The True Test: Lives Were Saved," Ivo H. Daalder and Michael E. O'Hanlon, Washington Post, March 26, 2000); or, in short, about whether or not U.S. - U.K.- NATO - OSCE claims about Belgrade's intent to do suchandsuch things is accurate.
It is, rather, a critique of the actions of the aggressor states, and their willingness to escalate hugely the crisis on the ground, and to precipitate circumstances which, in their justifications for the aggression, they claim to be reversing, not initiating, not causing.
According to the evidence adduced by the aggressor states at the highest levels---that the kind of atrocities they purported to be waging a war of aggression in order to reverse in fact began only after they started their war---what ought we to conclude about their decision to launch their war?
So much for the Human Rights Brigades' meeting their extremely high burden of proofs! The aggressor states' own documents betray the fact that the essential contributing factor to the atrocities they descry was the same "humanitarian" war they waged in the name of countering atrocities.
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Re: Mr. Daniel Lam, of Quebec, Canada + Noam Chomsky blog
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 11, 2006 14:46 PM
Hi David,
Thanks very much for your reply. Hope you are having a great weekend.Yes, the so-called "Srebrenica Genocide blog" is run by a mentally deranged racist Islamist Nazi Serbophobe - whom denies ALL massacres OF Serbs (and the massacres committed against moderate Bosnian muslims of the Fikret Abdic faction) by Alija Izetbegovic's SDA party radical Islamists.
Mr. Daniel Lam likes to masquerade as a defender of something sacred and untouchable - his version of the Islamist fundamentalist "truth" where the Serbs are the monsters (he claims that "only 1,978 Serbs to be exact" were killed in 3 and a half years of war in Bosnia and also claims that Izetbegovic's notorious Islamo-Fascist warlord, Mr.Naser Oric, never massacred any Serbian civilians at all, despite eyewitness testimony by Dutch UN peacekeepers there on the scene and that of French UN general, Phillipe Morrillon, under oath at the Milosevic "trial" as welll as amply and rigorously documented evidence provided in two UN reports by the Serbs themselves:
http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/mem.htm
http://www.srebrenica-report.com/docs/UN-1993-1.pdf
The UN document A/47/813, S/24991 on rape by Bosnian Muslim & Croat forces in Bosnia in 1992 can be read at: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/rapes/raped-serbs.html.
Okay, about Noam: maybe you are right and I am wrong - maybe I have possibly misinterpreted his remarks but then if that's the case so have many others (just look at the comments on his blog). I have a great deal of respect for professor Chomsky's intelligence and I was quite shocked that, judging by what he answered in reply to a question concerning an interview of him by the Irish media, it at least appeared to me that he was confirming what NATO (and the OSCE it controls) were alleging by acknowledging it with his statement below [in response to a query from a reader from Noam's blog]:
The interviewer[on Irish TV] quoted the executive summary of the OSCE report KOSOVO – As Seen, As Told concluding that the Serbian forces' “intent to apply mass killing as an instrument of terror, coercion or punishment against Kosovo Albanians was already in evidence in 1998”. You[Noam] responded “They didn't say that. What they said is that they had contingency plans to carry out atrocities if they were under attack”.
Noam also says in one paragraph: "After the bombing elicited the anticipated atrocities..."
Also, if you read the interview of Pristina, Kosovo's Jewish leader Mr.Cedomir Prilincevic, by Mr. Jared Israel, here,you will find that Mr. Israel states the following in his introduction:
" Anti-Serb intellectuals like Noam Chomsky made a fake criticism of NATO, saying yes, the Serbs had instituted a reign of terror, and that's why Albanians had fled - but NATO was at fault because the Serbs instituted terror after the bombing started, and NATO knew full well that the Serbs would take it out on Albanians if they were bombed. (I say this was a fake criticism of NATO because it uncritically accepted the media's claim: that the flight was proof of Serbian terror. In other words it was the Serbs Chomsky was attacking, in the guise of criticizing NATO.)"
So, naturally after having read Noam's blog and the comments above by Mr. Israel, I came to the conclusion that Noam was convinced of the veracity and honesty of the NATO dominated OSCE's report: "Kosovo: As Seen As Told" where NATO claims that the Serbs had an "intent" to "commit atrocities" against the Albanians if NATO commenced bombing and that they had actually carried out these atrocities as allegedly "planned".
Also, Noam refers to the NATO backed-KLA terrorists as "guerrillas" when even the US state Department in 1997 and early 1998 unequivocally acknowledged that the KLA was a "terrorist organization" before dropping that term when US political diktat in late 1998 demanded it .
These fascist thugs-who get their inspiration for their foul deeds from the infamous WW2 Albanian and Bosnian Nazi SS divisions, "Skanderbeg" and "Handzar" -were notorious for murdering innocent Serbian and anti-KLA Albanian civilians in cafes and restaurants by throwing grenades or opening fire with machine guns; kidnapping young Serbian children and raping them before torturing them to death in front of their parents, and murdering Serbs in refugee camps who had fled from the US-backed and led (through ex-Pentagon mercenary outfit, MPRI) massive Nazi style ethnic cleansing operation in Croatia/Krajina in August 1995 (known as "Operation Storm").
These were the Clinton backed fascist drug-trafficking thugs responsible for FORCING - en masse- the innocent Albanian people of Kosovo to head towards the Albanian and Macedonian border or face being executed - where BBC, CNN cameras and Christianne Amanpour-were waiting to record harrowing tales of "Serb atrocties and genocide" with most of the footage being staged (i.e., FAKED) by CNN. See "New Hague Testimony Bolsters the Case for CNN's Fraud" available at: http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/?articleid=5140
Maybe you could clarify Noam's position vis-a-vis his acceptance of NATO/OSCE claims of the Yugoslav government's "intent to commit atrocities" followed by "elicited the anticipated atrocities" used to justify/criticize NATO's 78 day terror bombing of civilians and civilian infrastructure - most of it hundreds of miles from Kosovo. I sincerely hope you are right about Noam's stand on this issue.
Take care,
Peter.
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Reply to Peter Robert North
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 10, 2006 17:38 PM
Peter:
Thanks for the explanation on the principal behind the Srebrenica Genocide Blog---a real howler of a site, to say the lease.
For another pseudonymous poster of material that covers the same terrain, I'd love to know whom one "Raoul Djukanovic" really is. (In case you or your colleagues know or can figure it out. He's a frequenter to the U.K.-based Media Lens website. See some of his posts at "David Peterson on Oliver Kamm." As well as his posts to the Gutrot website. Worth investigating further, I believe.)
About the Chomsky, I'm not persuaded. Much of what Chomsky has written about the U.S.-led NATO-bloc's exploitation of the conflicts in the former Yugoslavia has been designed to see where their arguments wind up, even when we concede the strongest possible cases to the Humanitarian War Brigades. He doesn't necessarily accept the validity of their arguments. But as a matter of counter-argument, he has been willing to concede to them the best cases they can make, and then see how close they've come to meeting their burden of proof.
This kind of thing. My hunch is that he's arguing that if NATO was confident that the Serbian forces were prepared to expel several-hundred-thousand ethnic Albanians from Kosovo, and if NATO went ahead and attacked the Serbian forces anyway, in full light of this expectation, then NATO's humanitarian reason for undertaking its bombing campaign goes out the window. This was no humanitarian war. Neither in its consequences nor its intent.
But I definitely will look into this further.
Thanks again.
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In answer to your quastion re: Mr. Daniel Lam of Quebec Canada
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 10, 2006 15:43 PM
Hi David,
I know the individual's name, because he identified himself as such on numerous occasions not just to me but to various other people I know as well, including Mr. Andy Wilcoxson, the webmaster of www.slobodan-milosevic.org.
As far as your second query,the reason I brought Professor Noam Chomsky into it is because Noam, on his blog, in the interview says- words to the effect- that it's "a given" that NATO (and the OSCE that it dominates) supposedly "knew" in advance that the Yugoslav Serbs supposedly had a so-called "contingency plan" to "commit atrocities" and/or "expel the entire Albanian population out of Kosovo if NATO attacked".
Both premises are absolutely FALSE. The Yugoslav/ Serbian government never had ANY plan to "commit atrocities" or "expel the Albanian civilian population out of Kosovo if NATO attacked" as claimed by professor Chomsky citing the NATO/OSCE report "As Seen as Told". Saying that NATO has "blood on their hands" because they supposedly "knew" that "the Serbs" had a "contingency plan to commit atrocities" is really twisting the truth because it is attacking the Serbs and the Yugoslav government- the victims of NATO's aggression - whilst simultaneously pretending to attack NATO. NATO did NOT "know" of any such "contingency plan" because such a plan NEVER EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
There is not a SHRED of proof to support these claims of a "contingency plan", not back then in March 1999,and certainly NOT now, in June 2006 -seven years after the terror bombing was halted under UN SCR resolution 1244 (a resolution totally violated in all its key points by NATO/UNMIK).
Best wishes,
Peter.
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Reply to Peter Robert North
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 10, 2006 13:28 PM
Peter:
About your last two posts ("Off Topic-Update on Mr. Daniel Lam of 'Srebrenica genocide' blog," and "There is ZERO evidence for NATO's story: 'As Seen As Told'"), two quick questions.
First, can you explain how you determined that the person who runs the Srebrenica Genocide Blog is, as you write, one Daniel Lam of Quebec? I'd love to know, because I never was able to figure out which real flesh and bone person (or persons) was actually behind this particular blog. And with the by-now 21 different "Links worth clicking" listed down the left-hand column of its homepage, it strikes me that it could be one or more of these engaged parties, too.
Second, why bring Chomsky into your assessment of the OSCE's reports, Kosovo/Kosova: As Seen, As Told (Part I:October 1998 - June 1999; and Part II: June 14 - October 31, 1999)? As far as I know, Chomsky has used these documents to show that, according to the OSCE's and narrower NATO-bloc's own evidence at the time, those who undertook the war knew that their contention that the war reversed a humanitarian crisis was demonstrably false---rather, their war accompanied and in decisive ways precipitated the humanitarian crisis against which it was allegedly waged. With respect to the OSCE's evidence in Part I in particular, Chomsky writes that "The discrepancy between what is required [to meet the burden of proof in favor of a humanitarian war] and the evidence presented is quite striking; the term 'contradiction' would be more apt...." (A New Generation Draws the Line: Kosovo, East Timor and the Standards of the West (Verso, 2000), pp. 121-122 and elsewhere, too.)
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There is ZERO evidence for NATO's story:"As Seen As Told"
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 10, 2006 10:56 AM
Dear ZNet community,
I am amazed that anybody -especially a man as intelligent as Noam Chomsky- would give any credence to so thoroughly a corrupt organization as the NATO controlled OSCE and ipso facto, ANY report they have produced without some kind of corroborating evidence from a truly independent source (i.e. non-Western government/non-Soros funded organization). People seem to forget whom NATO placed as head of the OSCE Kosovo Verification Mission - none other than Washington-backed Central American regimes' atrocities denier/supporter: CIA pointman, Mr. William Walker.
The cited report "Kosovo: As Seen as Told" is as FAKE as "Operation Horsehoe": the supposed Serbian "plan" to ethnically cleanse Kosovo ,which was later revealed by a top German general (Heinz Loquai) to have been fabricated by the German government from run-of-the-mill Bulgarian intelligence reports (the so-called "maps" shown by NATO/OSCE as "proof of Serbian plans for ethnic cleansing" were in reality drawn up at German military headquarters at Hardthohe in Germany.
In reality, the Bulgarian intelligence report concluded that the goal of the Yugoslav/Serbian military was to destroy the terrorist KLA and NOT to expel the entire Albanian population (as was later argued by German defense minister, Rudolf Scharping and the entire criminal NATO leadership)
What's even more amazing is that NATO attempted to justify its decision to bomb Serbia on the basis of "preventing a humanitarian catastrophe". This, despite the fact that confidential internal documents of the German Foreign ministry (leaked in April 1999) dealing with events prior to the bombing, showed that during 1997/1998 and early 1999 there was NO persecution of the ordinary Albanian population but that the Yugoslav/Serbian military and police operations were directed solely at the KLA and its collaborators.
A Canadian,Mr.Roland Keith, an OSCE observer in Kosovo prior to the bombing by NATO also has stated - on the record - that he saw NO ethnic cleansing or genocide of the Albanian civilian population by the Yugoslav/Serbian military or police - even at the peak of the KLA's terrorist attacks against the Serbian civilian population as well as the Serbian police and military. See also the article by John Xiros Cooper: "German Foreign Office inadvertently casts doubt on NATO humanitarian role" available at: http://faculty.arts.ubc.ca/jcooper/GERMAN~1.HTM
It is highly unlikely and incredibly doubtful, that the Yugoslav/Serbian government would be so inclined as to draw up a "plan" to expel the entire Albanian population AFTER NATO commenced bombing.There is not a shred of evidence to support such a theory (unless you regard the NATO/OSCE report "As seen as Told" as somehow constituting "evidence").
All the NATO/corporate media horror stories of death camps/rape camps,mass graves, mine shafts used as dumping grounds for corpses, mobile crematoria, acid baths used to melt bodies, refrigerator trucks used to transport tens of thousands of corpses hundreds of miles to Serbia proper and so forth, ad nauseam, ad infinitum ALL PROVED TO BE SPECTACULAR LIES after NATO troops and forensic teams entered Kosovo in mid June 1999. There was not a shred of evidence to justify the criminal NATO terror bombing campaign against mostly civilian targets (e.g.,schools,maternity hospitals,emergency/casualty wards,child care centers,churches,nursing homes,bridges,residential apartment blocks/houses,buses and trains filled with commuters,grocery markets,zoos,petro-chemical and fertilizer plants,columns of refugees fleeing the fighting, the list goes on and on).
Remember, it was supposedly "a given" that what the media and NATO/OSCE were telling all of us in 1998 and early 1999 was true: that the Serbs were persecuting the Albanian civilian population and forcing them to leave Kosovo and that this was a long prepared "Serb plan" for ethnically cleansing Kosovo of its civilian Albanian population that was put into operation by the Yugoslav/Serbian government.
When the NATO bombing commenced and the terrorist KLA was forcing ordinary Albanian civilians, en masse, to leave Kosovo for the Macedonian and Albanian border, and NATO was deliberately bombing Albanian refugee columns heading back home towards Kosovo - in order to send a clear message to others attempting to do the same - we were told by NATO through its mouthpiece, the corporate controlled media (to paraphrase):
"Look how terrible and monstrous the Serbs are!! See,we told you so.We, the good guys at NATO, are here to stop all of these terrible crimes by the Serbs with our smart bombs and cruise missiles.We shall continue bombing until all conditions are met by Milosevic".
The head of Pristina's Jewish community,Cedomir Prilincevic, whom was ethnically cleansed out of Kosovo by the KLA,pretty much confirmed the above in this interview here: "How NATO staged Albanian flight during the NATO bombing". Available at http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/keys.htm
See also: Mr. Nice Loses His Mind And Accuses Milosevic Of Allowing The NATO Bombing"
available at: http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/smorg102505.htm
and "Appraisal of the Two OSCE Reports: "Kosovo/Kosova: As Seen As Told" http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/osce.htm
For more information on how thoroughly bogus and easily debunked the OSCE's "As seen as Told" report really is, see "Cooking the Books: NATO's Ethnic Cleansing Claims Challenged" by
Michel Chossudovsky available at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/chuss/nato.htm, see also "The New Rome and The New Religious Wars" available at: http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Rome.htm (Here you will find a transcript of an intercepted radio communications recording between a US NATO fighter/bomber and an EC-130 Hercules AWACS command plane ORDERING the pilot to cold bloodedly murder columns of Albanian refugees coming back home to Kosovo towards Serbia proper - a massacre of approximately 87 Albanian civilians which NATO then falsely blamed on the Yugoslav/Serbian military).
For further debunking of the NATO owned OSCE report, "Kosovo: As Seen As Told", see the transcripts of the Milosevic "trial" at the NATO owned Hague ICTY, available at: http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org
Best regards,
Peter Robert North.
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There is ZERO evidence for NATO's story:"As Seen As Told"
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 10, 2006 10:49 AM
Dear ZNet community,
I am amazed that anybody -especially a man as intelligent as Noam Chomsky- would give any credence to so thoroughly a corrupt organization as the NATO controlled OSCE and ipso facto, ANY report they have produced without some kind of corroborating evidence from a truly independent source (i.e. non-Western government/non-Soros funded organization). People seem to forget whom NATO placed as head of the OSCE Kosovo Verification Mission - none other than Washington-backed Central American regimes' atrocities denier/supporter: CIA pointman, Mr. William Walker.
The cited report "Kosovo: As Seen as Told" is as FAKE as "Operation Horsehoe": the supposed Serbian "plan" to ethnically cleanse Kosovo ,which was later revealed by a top German general (Heinz Loquai) to have been fabricated by the German government from run-of-the-mill Bulgarian intelligence reports (the so-called "maps" shown by NATO/OSCE as "proof of Serbian plans for ethnic cleansing" were in reality drawn up at German military headquarters at Hardthohe in Germany.
In reality, the Bulgarian intelligence report concluded that the goal of the Yugoslav/Serbian military was to destroy the terrorist KLA and NOT to expel the entire Albanian population (as was later argued by German defense minister, Rudolf Scharping and the entire criminal NATO leadership)
What's even more amazing is that NATO attempted to justify its decision to bomb Serbia on the basis of "preventing a humanitarian catastrophe". This, despite the fact that confidential internal documents of the German Foreign ministry (leaked in April 1999) dealing with events prior to the bombing, showed that during 1997/1998 and early 1999 there was NO persecution of the ordinary Albanian population but that the Yugoslav/Serbian military and police operations were directed solely at the KLA and its collaborators.
A Canadian,Mr.Roland Keith, an OSCE observer in Kosovo prior to the bombing by NATO also has stated - on the record - that he saw NO ethnic cleansing or genocide of the Albanian civilian population by the Yugoslav/Serbian military or police - even at the peak of the KLA's terrorist attacks against the Serbian civilian population as well as the Serbian police and military. See also the article by John Xiros Cooper: "German Foreign Office inadvertently casts doubt on NATO humanitarian role" available at: http://faculty.arts.ubc.ca/jcooper/GERMAN~1.HTM
It is highly unlikely and incredibly doubtful, that the Yugoslav/Serbian government would be so inclined as to draw up a "plan" to expel the entire Albanian population AFTER NATO commenced bombing.There is not a shred of evidence to support such a theory (unless you regard the NATO/OSCE report "As seen as Told" as somehow constituting "evidence").
All the NATO/corporate media horror stories of death camps/rape camps,mass graves, mine shafts used as dumping grounds for corpses, mobile crematoria, acid baths used to melt bodies, refrigerator trucks used to transport tens of thousands of corpses hundreds of miles to Serbia proper and so forth, ad nauseam, ad infinitum ALL PROVED TO BE SPECTACULAR LIES after NATO troops and forensic teams entered Kosovo in mid June 1999. There was not a shred of evidence to justify the criminal NATO terror bombing campaign against mostly civilian targets (e.g.,schools,maternity hospitals,emergency/casualty wards,child care centers,churches,nursing homes,bridges,residential apartment blocks/houses,buses and trains filled with commuters,grocery markets,zoos,petro-chemical and fertilizer plants,columns of refugees fleeing the fighting, the list goes on and on).
Remember, it was supposedly "a given" that what the media and NATO/OSCE were telling all of us in 1998 and early 1999 was true: that the Serbs were persecuting the Albanian civilian population and forcing them to leave Kosovo and that this was a long prepared "Serb plan" for ethnically cleansing Kosovo of its civilian Albanian population that was put into operation by the Yugoslav/Serbian government.
When the NATO bombing commenced and the terrorist KLA was forcing ordinary Albanian civilians, en masse, to leave Kosovo for the Macedonian and Albanian border, and NATO was deliberately bombing Albanian refugee columns heading back home towards Kosovo - in order to send a clear message to others attempting to do the same - we were told by NATO through its mouthpiece, the corporate controlled media (to paraphrase):
"Look how terrible and monstrous the Serbs are!! See,we told you so.We, the good guys at NATO, are here to stop all of these terrible crimes by the Serbs with our smart bombs and cruise missiles.We shall continue bombing until all conditions are met by Milosevic".
The head of Pristina's Jewish community,Cedomir Prilincevic, whom was ethnically cleansed out of Kosovo by the KLA,pretty much confirmed the above in this interview here: "How NATO staged Albanian flight during the NATO bombing". Available at http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/keys.htm
See also: Mr. Nice Loses His Mind And Accuses Milosevic Of Allowing The NATO Bombing"
available at: http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/news/smorg102505.htm
and "Appraisal of the Two OSCE Reports: "Kosovo/Kosova: As Seen As Told" http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/Johnstone/osce.htm
For more information on how thoroughly bogus and easily debunked the OSCE's "As seen as Told" report really is, see "Cooking the Books: NATO's Ethnic Cleansing Claims Challenged" by
Michel Chossudovsky available at http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/chuss/nato.htm, see also "The New Rome and The New Religious Wars" available at: http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Rome.htm (Here you will find a transcript of an intercepted radio communications recording between a US NATO fighter/bomber and an EC-130 Hercules AWACS command plane ORDERING the pilot to cold bloodedly murder columns of Albanian refugees coming back home to Kosovo towards Serbia proper - a massacre of approximately 87 Albanian civilians which NATO then falsely blamed on the Yugoslav/Serbian military).
For further debunking of the NATO owned OSCE report, "Kosovo: As Seen As Told", see the transcripts of the Milosevic "trial" at the NATO owned Hague ICTY, available at: http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org
Best regards,
Peter Robert North.
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Update on Mr. Daniel Lam, author of "Srebrenica genocide" blog
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 09, 2006 09:48 AM
Hi David,
just a quick update on Mr. Daniel Lam, of Quebec,Canada, author of the spuriously named "Srebrenica genocide" blog. Please visit my latest post regarding this astonishingly puerile and insolently rude character at:
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2006/06/mr-daniel-lam-author-of-srebrenica.html
Mr. Daniel Lam, author of "Srebrenica genocide blogspot" PROVES HE IS IN DIRE NEED OF PSYCHIATRIC HELP
Best wishes,
Peter.
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wow!
By Kissenger, Clark at May 30, 2006 21:40 PM
oh my god! this is embarassing for the fool..
hehehehehe! I didn't know who was Rosemary Woods; wow David must be reaaaaaally old!...
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Cyrano, I will say this
By Kissenger, Clark at May 30, 2006 15:11 PM
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the joke..
By Kissenger, Clark at May 29, 2006 21:35 PM
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Cyrano, I was responding to
By Kissenger, Clark at May 29, 2006 19:48 PM
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an attempt ?
By Kissenger, Clark at May 29, 2006 19:46 PM
nah, let me be David's lawyer.. SK aint David, David would not attempt to " minimizes" Emma Brockes bad actions toward Noam Chomsky by ridiculizing Emma's inner beauty..
By myself? I would not dare ridiculize her just because she'd probably be bitching about it and sue me. Anonymous, my father has a 75 years old girlfriend which natural beauty surely relates to a miracle, this dame's body would fit sexy clothing some 30 years old would not dare even try ;
now I agree that nature and miracle are unequals, emma's miracle was on the reverse and this said failing being a beauty some people can remedy by possessing inner beauty; may be emma's inner beauty would have been somewhat revealed, if she had respected the interview given to her Chomsky by privilege.. In my opinion, the true ugliness is her actions; consequently, she lost face and she now hide in shame instead of apologizing.
personally anonymous, I though sk' post was hilarious [for crying out loud] sometimes humour is a "cultural thingie", s'il vous plait, ne soyez pas rencunier ou rencunière!..
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I think that quote is David
By Kissenger, Clark at May 29, 2006 16:54 PM
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emma
By Kissenger, Clark at May 29, 2006 02:09 AM
sk... that is too funny, you serious? is she 30 years old ? that must be a reverse miracle.. someone wrote something about her on wikipedia, her whole affair attacking Chomsky has been exposed..
lol!Emma Brockes on Wikipedia: I think this may have set her reputation as an unethical journalist..
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emma
By Kissenger, Clark at May 28, 2006 09:55 AM
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emma
By Kissenger, Clark at May 27, 2006 09:49 AM
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