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Serving US Government Interests

By Noam Chomsky at Jul 23, 2005


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It's (The Lavan case) not the only case. The attack on the USS Liberty by Israeli air and naval forces towards the end of the 1967 war is hardly known, and among those who know, most probably accept the official story (regrettable accident) -- though plenty of prominent figures in the Pentagon and government don't. Same with the Iraqi attack on the USS Stark in 1987, also killing several dozen sailors. In 1981, according to the Israeli press, the Israeli air force sent US jets over the Saudi oil fields in a not-so-veiled warning to the US not to consider an Arab peace proposal, much like the international consensus that the US has blocked (and Israel opposes) for 30 years. Who knows about that? Or about the fact that US military analysts write that one "purpose of Israeli nuclear weapons, not often stated, but obvious, is their `use' on the United States," presumably to ensure consistent US support for Israeli policies? Probably in most of these cases the media didn't know enough even to investigate, or didn't have any incentive to, which just presses the question back one step farther. For what it's worth, in all of these cases … the attacker was considered to be serving US government interests.
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Probably in most of these cases the media didn't know enough even to investigate, or didn't have any incentive to, which just presses the question back one step farther. For what it's worth, in all of these cases … the attacker was considered to be serving US government interests. tercüme ingilizce tercüme elektrik emlak çeviri tercüman link ekle kiral?k ev

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Re: Serving US Government Interests

By Shannon_r_white, Shannon at Aug 05, 2005 16:28 PM

"PS I found this article so you can too; do your own research!" All right, I'll see what I can do.

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By Piles, Heaping at Aug 05, 2005 07:58 AM

Re: Shannon Yes it is Isreali Labor Party press reports, press report of Israeli warning (threat), Danial Bloch, November 13, 1981. If you're lucky Chomsky might respond. I'm a Canadian--fess up! PS I found this article so you can too; do your own research!

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Re: Serving US Government Interests

By Shannon_r_white, Shannon at Jul 26, 2005 18:18 PM

sk34 wrote: "Many news stories are covered very sporadically and in so fragmented a manner that snippets stick in a few people's minds". That may be so, but the examples of the Stark and Liberty are not good examples. The three mainstream citations I gave for the Liberty provide decent coverage and were written in the last five years. Pretty good for a 35 year old incident, in my opinion. In my opinion there are better, more recent, examples of facts unmentionable in the mainstream media. Like the fact that the current active revolt in the Israeli occupied territories was instigated by Sharon's heavy-handed, pre-meditated, visit to the Dome of the Rock in Sept 2000 (though the dynamite was already in place, he lit the fuse). Apparently, OBL wanted to move up the date of 911 to Sept 9th (?) to coincide with the anniversary of Sharon's same visit. There is no doubt Sharon new what he was doing when he visited the Dome. He was warned by all sides that the visit could plunge Israel-Palestine, and even the Middle East into full-scale war. And that's what happened. Would there have been a 911 without Sharon's provacation? Noone can say for sure, but it certainly made it more likely. And yet, the mere mention of a causal link between Sharon's visit and 911 is unheard of in the US mainstream media. The thought that the safety of the Dome is in Sharon's hands should give everyone some sleepless nights.

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Re: Serving US Government Interests

By Shannon_r_white, Shannon at Jul 26, 2005 07:30 AM

I cannot find a non-Chomsky source for the claim that Israeli jets over-flew Saudi oil fields to threaten the US into not supporting the Saudi peace proposal in 1981. According to Chomsky (elsewhere), the claim was in Davar, but I'd like to see the article to check the context. Are they referring to the time in 1981 when Israel attacked Iraq destroying the Iraqi nuclear energy reactors? If I remember correctly, that involved an over-flight of both Jordanian and Saudi air space. Since Davar was a Labour mouth-piece, was the article a hysterical accusation, on behalf of Labour, to smear the ruling Likud party? I'm not going to trust Chomsky's claim without more information, and since it was something of an obscure (though possibly valid) claim, I think it's only right that Chomsky provide a citation.

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Re: Serving US Government Interests

By Shannon_r_white, Shannon at Jul 26, 2005 06:26 AM

I did a little research and found this link for http://www.ussliberty.org/ including a selected bibliography http://www.ussliberty.org/sources.htm#fn4. I also found this link http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=2916 that purports to show articles from the Washington Post, Associated Press and Navy Times that mention the Syria angle; that is, the attack on the USS Liberty was an attempt by Israel to prevent the US from discovering the Israeli build-up preceding the attack on the Golan Heights. Purported from the Washington Post "Those speculating on reasons for Israel's attack on the Liberty have asserted it was to prevent Washington from learning of Israel's coming seizure of the Golan Heights from Syria, or to prevent disclosure of war crimes against Egyptian prisoners of war." Purportedly from the Navy Times: "Some allege Israel wanted the spy ship sunk to ensure it did not pick up communications showing Israel was planning to seize the Golan Heights from Syria. Others say it was to prevent Liberty from intercepting communications dealing with an alleged Israeli massacre of Egyptian POWs in the Sinai." And finally purportedly from Associated Press: "One was Israel's need to prevent American foreknowledge of its impending invasion of Syria's Golan Heights, a move opposed by U.S. policy. Another was the desire to cover up a massacre of Egyptian prisoners at El Arish, a few miles from the Liberty."

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By Shannon_r_white, Shannon at Jul 26, 2005 04:54 AM

I'm 90% sure I first read about the USS Liberty attack in Time or Newsweek back in the late 1970's in a dentist office. I'm fairly sure they brought up the possibility that the attack was done to inhibit the US intelligence from learning about the Israeli buildup in preparation for an attack on Syria. I've followed the mainstream press for years, and I'm fairly certain the attack on the Stark, and the possible motivations, were well covered. In other words, I don't think Noam is accurate in saying that these incidents are "hardly known". I realize I'm not backing this up with citations -- I'll see what I can do -- but, to me, Noam's assertions don't ring true. Anyone else?

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