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        [Contribution to the Reimagining Society Project hosted by ZCommunications]

 

Hi, Len.

 

There are a number of Solidarity Economy and of Parecon people participating in Resoc. I wonder if we can try to determine the relation of these perspectives, and the possibility for, well, solidarity! I wrote an essay some time back that I would like to now adapt - here - for your attention. I hope you find it worth considering.

 

It seems to me that the SE movement seeks to unite what Ethan Miller calls "thousands of diverse, locally-rooted, grassroots economic projects ... such as worker, consumer, and housing cooperatives, community currencies, urban gardens, fair trade organizations, intentional communities, and neighborhood self-help associations" or "islands of alternatives in a capitalist sea."

 

The glue for unity is the idea of economic projects fostering solidarity and democracy. The connection they seek is "horizontal networking" including "webs of mutual recognition and support." The aim of all this is in Miller's words to "generate a social movement and economic vision capable of challenging the global capitalist order."

 

This certainly seems like it would be a movement parecon advocates would support and wish to relate to, indeed a movement parecon advocates would like to be a part of, and, I would hope, vice versa. Let's see if we can determine if that is right, or if there are barriers to unity that need to be addressed.

 

Participatory economics proposes a set of key institutions - workers and consumers councils, self managed decision making, remuneration for duration, intensity, and onerousness of work, balanced job complexes, and participatory planning - that are precisely conceived to establish an economy that generates by its operation both solidarity and democracy, and even further, empathy and self management, all of which rank high as SE values.

 

So, given the congeniality of shared purpose that ought to unite solidarity and participatory economics, I have to wonder, why haven't the two gotten together, or more together, since there some ties already?

 

Solidarity economists say they have in common with one another "a thirst for justice, a logic of participation, creativity, and processes of self-management and autonomy." What could be more in tune, as well, with the shared commitments of participatory economics? From my perspective, at least, so far this seems like a perfect match.

 

The difficulty in getting more together must rest, if it has any basis at all, in some additional commitments of the solidarity economy folks, or, one might as easily say, in some additional commitments of parecon, that are at odds.

 

Solidarity economy advocates seek "self-organized relationships of care, cooperation, and community." So do advocates of parecon, so that is not a problem.  

 

Miller quotes J.K. Gibson-Graham, who asks, "If we viewed the economic landscape as imperfectly colonized, homogenized, systematized, might we not find openings for projects of noncapitalist invention? Might we not find ways to construct different communities and societies, building upon what already exists?"

 

Parecon is very much about constructing workplaces and communities that embody the seeds of the future in the present, though it is also about fighting to alter existing institutions, as well. There is no problem lurking here, either, I think.

 

But then we come to what may be a difficulty. Miller says, "At its core, solidarity economics rejects one-size-fits-all solutions and singular economic blueprints, embracing instead a view that economic and social development should occur from the bottom up, diversely and creatively, crafted by those who are most affected."

 

Under one reading of this sentence, parecon has no disagreement with it, and indeed asserts the same point, very aggressively. But, Miller might mean something else - as might you and other SE folks - I don't know. If, for example, the above formulation implies that we don't need certain key institutions if we are to have an economy that is participatory, engenders solidarity, and is equitable, and in which there is real democracy and even self management, then I would have to disagree just as I think most advocates of parecon would.

 

Here is a way to think of it. Solidarity economy is about specifying the minimum list of institutions necessary for an economy to allow those most affected to "craft" the outcomes they desire in a context of solidarity. Parecon seeks that same self-management, but notes that some structures are essential to attaining it, and others inevitably block it.

 

How do you react to these three claims, I wonder:

 

1. An economy of the future will have an allocation system. All economies do. If it is markets or central planning, then that economy will not be a solidarity or a participatory economy.

 

2. An economy of the future will have a division of labor. All economies do. And if this includes sequestering empowering work into the hands of a few while most do only rote and obedient work, that future economy will not be a solidarity or a participatory economy.

 

3. To have solidarity requires classlessness. Solidarity won't be extensive if some own the economy and others only labor in it. It won't be extensive if some rule the economy and others only obey in it.

 

We agree that we need an economy that is the product of the will of its members and we also agree that we need an economy that is created by an open and hugely democratic process.

 

But I want to add, and I don't know whether SE agrees or not, that we also need an economy that arrives at institutions that foster our stated aims since if we don't have that the aims will only be nice rhetoric, disappearing once contrary institutions push them aside.

 

Miller quotes Marcos Arruda of the Brazilian Solidarity Economy Network saying that "a solidarity economy does not arise from thinkers or ideas; it is the outcome of the concrete historical struggle of the human being to live and to develop him/herself as an individual and a collective."

 

I find this way of presenting what I hope is Arruda's point a bit strange, and I wonder what you think about it. How can solidarity economy activists be critical of markets and of private ownership unless they have thought about these, very carefully, and not only experienced the pain without thinking about it? A huge number of people experience alienation or poverty but don't reject their causes - markets, capital, or other adverse institutional structures - because they haven't thought seriously about the origins of the ills or, I suspect more often, they think there is no alternative to these institutions, having not thought closely about that. People thinking, and the ideas that emerge from people thinking, are not our enemy, unless it is too few people doing the thinking or it is poor ideas they generate.

 

In fact, most anything humans do arises in considerable part from their ideas which are often initially held or at least made coherent and presentable for assessment by only a few folks. It seems to me the kind of sentiment Arruda offers, and many SE people also express, which may be part of what blocks better relations, may have a confusion in it. He wants to say, I think - or perhaps I should say, I hope - that solidarity economics is not imposed by a few on the many and is not an abstract creation of impossible features, but, instead, is a well conceived campaign rooted in what is both possible and desirable.

 

But Arruda's words instead seem to me to have, whether he means them this way or not, an underlying inclination to denigrate thought and to imply that if something is thought through carefully, and especially if something is debated, proposed, and then strongly advocated with careful reasoning, it must be elitist. This seems to me to be a suicidal perspective that rejects good thinking rather than only rejecting elitist thinking.

 

More, in fact we have all been engaging in activism for quite some time now. It may be that it is the thinking side of the balance between thought and action, not the activism side, that has gotten too short shrift, at least when we are talking about putting forth an alternative to capitalism, markets, corporations, etc. Plenty of thought, often quite redundant, most certainly addresses what's wrong with the current world or proposing short-term changes that will ameliorate pains. But not much thought, when you consider it, addresses what we want in place of the current world, not just to ameliorate pain today, but to replace existing structures with liberation tomorrow.

 

Miller notes that "unlike many alternative economic projects that have come before, solidarity economics does not seek to build a singular model of how the economy should be structured, but rather pursues a dynamic process of economic organizing in which organizations, communities, and social movements work to identify, strengthen, connect, and create democratic and libratory means of meeting their needs."

 

Again, I think maybe I don't get it. First off, no proposer of an economic model has ever to my knowledge suggested that all economies should in all features mimic the model. In fact, there has been no model offered, ever, that specifies all features of an economy. Models typically, instead, specify some key institutions. The advocate of a model says that an economy we would like - a solidarity economy or a participatory economy, for example - needs to flexibly incorporate those highlighted features if it is to achieve what it seeks.

 

For example, if you want classlessness, the pareconist says, you can't have markets, central planning, private ownership of productive property, or corporate divisions of labor because those features impose class division and class rule. And, further, having rejected those options, after thinking carefully about their implications and measuring them against shared values, parecon offers in their place participatory planning by self managed workers and consumers councils, remuneration for duration, intensity, and onerousness of socially valued work, and balanced job complexes. Isn't this doing exactly what it means to pay serious attention to our experiences so as to distill from them insights bearing on how we ought to conduct economics?

 

If solidarity economy advocates would agree that it is, then there is every reason to hope for increased relations between these two approaches. But it will be hard to have really productive ties if solidarity economy advocates say that the minute someone argues on behalf of some particular type of institution, say balanced job complexes or participatory planning, arguing that this is part of what people should strive to create instead of simply advocating whatever plurality of diverse choices people freely make, then that person has foregone connection to building a better economy. I have encountered both types of attitude in my own experiences with solidarity economy advocates, so I am not sure which is more prevalent.

 

Suppose movements in some place and time work to "identify, strengthen, connect, and create democratic and liberatory means of meeting their needs," to use Miller's description. Suppose they then think over their experiences and become convinced that to accomplish meeting needs consistent with their values requires certain new institutions. Would these activists be wrong to think things through in such a manner? If they did so, should they not say what they conclude? And isn't such a conclusion quite plausibly correct? And if it is correct, wouldn't it help to inform others about it when they also try to develop experiments in better economic organization or try to win changes in existing workplaces and communities in accord with better economic organization?

 

Suppose a group sets up a workers coop of the sort that solidarity economy tries to link. These activists work long and hard and discover that despite all participants' commitments to full democracy, and even to full self0management, as long as old corporate style divisions of labor are in place, these virtues are stunted and in time even obliterated. So the members then consider this realization and conceive of a new division of labor, let's say balanced job complexes, and enact them with great success. Wouldn't it make sense that they make this known and urge that this new way of apportioning labor be incorporated, as much as it can be in current conditions, into future experiments in better economy, to avoid the experiments succumbing to internal class divisions?

 

Suppose as time passes and initial euphoria and intensity decline and these activists endure considerable backsliding and difficulty in their attempts to act in a solidaritous manner, internally and regarding those who relate to their product. Unlike others who experience this trend, however, this group thinks hard about it and decides it isn't due to a flaw in their commitments, or to some kind of law of nature or society limiting possibilities, but is instead an imposition from the market pressures all around them. So they then also think through the operation of the market as it imposes on them behaviors contrary to their inclinations and conducive to old style decision-making and divisions of labor, and they come up with a critique of the market and with a proposal for an alternative to it, let's say participatory planning. Shouldn't they make their judgments known to others, too? Shouldn't they urge, hoping for debate and discussion to test their insights, that experiments in the construction of solidarity economics need to be anti-market and to understand its ill effects and work on by-passing them, ameliorating them, or even replacing markets to eliminate those effects? If the answer to all these questions is yes, then, again, it seems to me that solidarity economics and parecon ought to be able to break bread and much more.

 

Miller quotes Marcos Arruda, once again, saying this time that "Innovative practices at the micro level can only be viable and structurally effective for social change if they interweave with one another to form always-broader collaborative networks and solidarity chains of production-finance-distribution-consumption-education-communication." Miller then adds, "this is, perhaps, the heart of solidarity economics -- the process of networking diverse structures that share common values in ways that strengthen each."

 

Okay, this is excellent, is my reaction. But shouldn't the common values be made explicit and doesn't producing in a good way mean that we have to have an opinion about what organizational structures and methods in fact constitute producing in a good way? And doesn't the same hold for distribution/allocation, and consumption? And, as well, shouldn't we be fighting for improvements in the larger economy too, in workplaces and in communities, as well as constructing our own new projects?

 

Solidarity economy or participatory economy? My answer is both and I wonder if you agree. Solidarity economy is way ahead in developing ties among practitioners of change and also in addressing highly detailed aspects of current experiments in change. Unity between these movements, solidarity economy which is quite large and parecon which is much smaller, would help parecon greatly regarding understanding and elaborating current ties and connections, and regarding committing to them, as well. But I think participatory economics has something to lend this potential union, too. Parecon is out in front at having seriously assessed experiences in alternative economy and extracted from them insights about the central logic both of markets and capitalism, and especially of a better alternative economy for local experiments as well as writ large.

 

Parecon certainly urges the need to build experiments in future organization today, which is what solidarity economy centrally emphasizes. No problem there.

 

Parecon also urges the need to organize and fight for changes inside existing economic institutions, which I suspect solidarity economy agrees is centrally important, even though it doesn't itself emphasize that. There is probably no problem here, either.

 

Parecon urges that a few key institutions are necessary if an economy is to foster solidarity, equity, self-management, etc., and that certain others must be rejected, if those are the goals. This, however, may be a problem, though I can't see why it ought to be. Pareconists should have no problem, at least in my view, relating to a movement that contains lots of people who think differently about these matters, or who even think markets or private ownership have a place in the future, supposing the people who think that are open to discussing these claims. Is solidarity economy equally open to incorporating and relating to the work and ideas of people who do have strong ideas about future institutions, both those favored and those rejected? If so, let's get together!

 

And for yourself, I wonder how you react, yourself, to parecon's proposed workers and consumers' self managing councils, balanced, job complexes, remuneration for duration, intensity, and onerousness of conditions of work, and participatory planning?

 

Could you see SE continuing to pursue its many diverse experiments and projects, but developing, over time, a commitment to these core institutions as being essential if a new economy is to be truly solidaritous and self managing?

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Michael's Three Points

By Davidson, Carl at Aug 19, 2009 06:30 AM

Michael Albert raises three points for Solidarity Economy activists to consider. Let's look at them one by one:

1. An economy of the future will have an allocation system. All economies do. If it is markets or central planning, then that economy will not be a solidarity or a participatory economy.

 'Of the future' is rather vague. But for the foreseeable future, almost all the SE projects I know of sell their goods and services in markets, and have to do well enough at it, maintaining a market share, so as to be able to pay their bills and otherwise be sustainable. So even if they are 'anti-market' in principle, the had best set that to the side and figure out how to compete in a sustainable way.

2. An economy of the future will have a division of labor. All economies do. And if this includes sequestering empowering work into the hands of a few while most do only rote and obedient work, that future economy will not be a solidarity or a participatory economy.

 'Sequestering,' 'rote' and 'obedient' are also rather vague or ambivalent.  From the Mondragon Coops in Spain to the new Evergreen Cooperative Laundry in Cleveland, some people are hired as managers and others are worker-owners. Washing hospital sheets, I suppose, is 'rote', although doing it well isn't necessarily rote, but it may be 'obedient', if that means certain procedure have to be followed to meet quality standards. In Mondragon, if a worker want to become a manager, he or she can go to the coop school, and then apply for one of the management positions. I'm not sure whether that gets us beyond the 'sequestered' barrier or not. My point is that 'balance job complexes' isn't the only way to skin this rabbit.

3. To have solidarity requires classlessness. Solidarity won't be extensive if some own the economy and others only labor in it. It won't be extensive if some rule the economy and others only obey in it.

Some of us in the SE movement worked on a public school we consider part of the SE. It's written up in the 'Solidarity Economy' book mentioned. One of the things that makes it work is its partnership with about 20 hight-tech, high road companies, as well as unions and community groups. This is a cross-class partnership promoting both cooperative and high road private ownership, built into the schools mission--all aimed against the load road economy.  'Classlessness' doesn't make sense here.

If Pareconish firms are to be the standard or even the lodestar for the SE movement, I think the ball is in Michael's court. It's his task to produce the compelling examples from current thriving projects, not just compelling ideas.

 

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Re: Michael's Three Points

By Albert, Michael at Aug 19, 2009 11:39 AM

Carl:

You write that I think "1. An economy of the future will have an allocation system. All economies do. If it is markets or central planning, then that economy will not be a solidarity or a participatory economy."

You are correct, I do think that. I believe - in fact I think it can be proven about as well as any claim about economics or society - that markets and central planning are not just not part of parecon (by definition) but are antithetical to self management, equity, etc., produce class division and class rule, and obstruct and even destroy social solidarity.

You say, I guess thinking it is a reaction: "'Of the future' is rather vague. But for the foreseeable future, almost all the SE projects I know of sell their goods and services in markets, and have to do well enough at it, maintaining a market share, so as to be able to pay their bills and otherwise be sustainable. So even if they are 'anti-market' in principle, the had best set that to the side and figure out how to compete in a sustainable way."

I was part of establishing such an institution, South End Press - with almost zero resources - thirty years ago. It was and remains anti market. It does sell books, via the market - no alternative exists, you are correct. But if its actors had taken the view that our task was to be best at that we would have done almost everything differently, to horrible effect. And that is just an isolated project - in a sea of horrors - not, for example, say, thousands of workplaces and other economic units in a country like Venezuela...which, if they see themselves as setting aside their rejection of markets in order to succeed, uncritically on the market, would doom all chances, in my view, for Venezuela to attain as you say, a participatory or solidarity economy.

You have two points here - one markets exist, to ignore them or operate as if they are not there is delusional and suicidal. I agree. Two, markets exist, we have to operate in the context they in part set, so we should set aside our anti market thinking and acting and work as they dictate, etc. otherwise we will fail, and that is obviously not useful. This is, however, false.

Now take factories in Argentina. They are occupied. They start up without owners. They want to be egalitarian, equitable, democratic, etc. One option - they adopt and make forefront an analysis of the faults of markets, understanding how markets push against their innovations and values, etc. In light of this, they operate in the market, yes, but also trying to develop other allocation procedures and steps, and, more, understanding the ill effects and thus being prepared to deal with them. Second option, they say, ah, market shmarket - that is irrelevant and for the future - and so they compete like others, endure the effects, are blind to them, and blame the return of inequitable relations, hierarchy, class difference, alienation, etc., on human nature, becoming despondent, etc.

I prefer path one. And that, again, is without looking at the broader society - thus efforts to bypass and replace markets on the large scale.



Next you say that I believe "2. An economy of the future will have a division of labor. All economies do. And if this includes sequestering empowering work into the hands of a few while most do only rote and obedient work, that future economy will not be a solidarity or a participatory economy."

Again you are correct, I do believe that, because having this type corporate division of labor guarantees a class division between workers below and coordinators above - destroying solidarity, self management, etc.

You then say, "'Sequestering,' 'rote' and 'obedient' are also rather vague or ambivalent."

Well, yes, but you wrote those words, here. And I do not think there is anything vague or ambivalent about parecon saying that instead of 20% doing primarily tasks that convey empowerment, and 80% doing primarily tasks that disempower - all should have a balanced set of responsibilities so all are broadly comparably empowered in their work, and all are thus prepared to fully participate in economic decisions. I have never had anyone who works in a factory or any workplace not understand exactly what balanced job complexes were about, very rapidly...

And that is just a tiny paragraph - but as you know, there are whole books on the topic.
You then suggest that "'balance job complexes' isn't the only way to skin this rabbit" suggesting that another option is (a) respecting all work, and (b) having the option for workers to go to school to gain credentials and knowledge requisite to occupying empowering positions.

I say, yes, we should respect all work, but respecting washing dishes does not make washing dishes a job that conveys skills, knowledge, information access to levers of daily choices, etc. that empower the person doing the task.

And - if you have a society that has 20% of the jobs empowering, let's say, and 80% not - then, in fact, the school system will graduate 20% ready for the former, and 80% willing to or resigned to accept the latter. In other words you will have a school system that literally robs the initiative and creativity of most students - as does ours, for example. If, instead, you actually had all 100% of students graduating into adulthood, so to speak, expecting and prepared to manage their lives, to have empowered and engaging work, and so on - then you would have a problem. Either society would provide that to everyone, with balanced job complexes - or society would have a rebellion of immense proportions to deal with.

You next write that I think "3. To have solidarity requires classlessness. Solidarity won't be extensive if some own the economy and others only labor in it. It won't be extensive if some rule the economy and others only obey in it."

And again you are correct - if we have capitalists owning or coordinators ruling - while workers produce in jobs that are overwhelmingly disempowering - we will not have classlessness, by definition, nor solidarity, self management, etc.

You then wrote, "Some of us in the SE movement worked on a public school we consider part of the SE. It's written up in the 'Solidarity Economy' book mentioned. One of the things that makes it work is its partnership with about 20 hight-tech, high road companies, as well as unions and community groups. This is a cross-class partnership promoting both cooperative and high road private ownership, built into the schools mission--all aimed against the load road economy.  'Classlessness' doesn't make sense here.
Maybe not...I'd have to know more. But your words are a non sequitor to what went before them. Both can be true.

It is as if you think that to reject corporate divisions of labor, markets, private ownership, means one cannot accept that they currently exist and that one has to operate in context, in part, of their existence. But that is false, obviously.

You conclude "If Pareconish firms are to be the standard or even the lodestar for the SE movement, I think the ball is in Michael's court. It's his task to produce the compelling examples from current thriving projects, not just compelling ideas."

Actually, that isn't true, and presumably you know this as well. So, let's suppose there really were no examples, that south end press, or Z, or the various outfits in Canada and elsewhere, did not exist - so that nothing in practice could be pointed to as full instances of a pareconish workplace, and suppose as well that we couldn't point to all kinds of actions, activities, and features that are partway pareconish, as well. Even if that were all true, would that say that nothing can be had and advocates of parecon should shut up? No. Of course not - if so, no new idea or aspiration could ever be voiced. This is the kind of argument people make against peace, too, or feminism, and so on.

So, (a) there are pareconish workplaces, modest ones, to point to - some that I know of, most I think I don't. (b) There are tons of instances of activities and features, and studies too, that bear out aspects of parecon. And (c) everything you want to point to as SE, by virtue of SE being anything you want to point to, basically, I will wager if you describe those efforts fully I can suggest various steps that might be undertaken - not cataclysmically, but sensibly and soberly - that would move them further in desirable directions, further toward being inspiring, being models, benefitting folks now, etc. etc. And that last point is actually a real touchstone for arguing the merit of parecon as a vision that SE might wish to discuss, debate, perhaps even adopt. Would being for parecon's features provide a perspective and orientation to SE activity and projects and organizing that would make it better - short and long term - or not?

 

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Re: Solidarity and Participatory Economics

By Krimerman, Len at Jul 28, 2009 18:39 PM

Michael,
    Your response raises a very basic issue, one that is inescapable for any movement committed to fundamental change. This is the issue of what sorts of large scale institutions both embody and can help propel us closer to the core goals – “solidarity and democracy, and even further, empathy and self-management” – common to folks in Parecon as well as Solidarity Economy (SE). It is an issue you and others associated with Parecon have given close and continuing attention. And it is also one which takes center stage in the article of mine to which you responded.
    In particular, that article advances three lines of argument addressing this issue, which may (or may not) supplement or intersect with Parecon perspectives. Specifically, it

• identifies several of SE’s most prominent initiatives as pioneers of new, up-scaled, highly participatory – and institutional – forms of democracy. This includes, among others, the Brazilian participatory budget process, now exported widely across the world (information at www.participatorybudgeting.org)....as well as the Mondragon(Basque), ItalianLegacoop, and Japanese Seikatsu cooperative associations; and La Via Campesina, which describes itself as

[an] international movement of peasants, small- and medium-sized producers, landless, rural women, indigenous people, rural youth and agricultural workers. We defend the values and the basic interests of our members. We are an autonomous, pluralist and multicultural movement, independent of any political, economic, or other type of affiliation. Our members are from 148 organisations in 69 countries. (http://www.viacampesina.org)

• calls for a much expanded SE focus on building so-called “support organizations”, that is, ones which offer crucial resources for starting, maintaining, and growing SE enterprises. Here too there are “best practices” or “working models” within SE to help us construct institutions and chart the way forward. These range from regional and national cooperative associations to what I’ve called “double mission” primary enterprises which combine local or enterprise democracy with a mission to overcome systemic injustices suffered by marginalized constituencies. (Equal Exchange and Cooperative Home Care Associates are good USA examples of “double mission” support organizations within SE.)

• strongly recommends an institution-building alliance between SE and what I called “solidarity governance” (SG). These latter grassroots activists are challenging the nation state’s claim to exclusive authority, and have created ways to “share governance” and “remake power” by inventing new forms of direct democratic governance. Examples include Everyday Democracy (formerly the Study Circle Resource Center), which has facilitated community-based empowerment through inclusive processes of dialogue, deliberation, and direct action in over 200 USA communities ranging in size from Los Angeles to tiny New Hampshire villages. Many other SG examples are described in my first Re-Imagining Society paper, “Democracy Dilemma”, as forms of “DiRep Democracy” in which citizen delegates often replace political party “representatives” and ordinary citizens create practices and policies which carry “emergent authority”.

Recently, as witnessed in the USA by the 2008 anthology, Solidarity Economy, SE has begun to take more seriously the issues involved in identifying movement-strengthening institutions and their implications for “effectively challenging the global capitalist order”. (See especially sections V and VI in that anthology.) For the most part, this seems to be proceeding in a bottom-up direction; that is, the sole or primary criterion for second tier, support, or larger scale institutions seems to be whether they are “woven together” by and serve to protect the self-determination of ground level grassroots groups.
The three points in my own paper outlined above retain this “bottom up” approach to institution building, with the proviso that what is “woven from below” include grassroots groups outside of SE, such as those constructing forms of SG. Specifically, I call for SE to adopt the following principle of “cross-organizational” or “cross-movement” collaboration; this would apply between grassroots initiatives, but also in the creation or remaking of institutions of whatever size or scope:

SE ENTERPRISES COLLABORATE TO BUILD A JUST, FULLY DEMOCRATIC, AND PEACE-BASED SOCIETY.
They collaborate with a diverse range of other grassroots democratic or citizen-shaped groups to build, and share power in, a fully democratic society whose institutions, resources, and opportunities are accessible equally by all, and where non-violent dialogue and conflict resolution are widely used to prevent and manage conflicts.

    Your own view appears to be somewhat at odds with this bottom up, and primacy of “practice”, approach. You ask, for example, how I

would react to parecon's proposed workers and consumers' self managing councils, balanced job complexes, remuneration for duration, intensity, and onerousness of conditions of work, and participatory planning?
Could you see SE continuing to pursue its many diverse experiments and projects, but developing, over time, a commitment to these core institutions as being essential if a new economy is to be truly solidaritous and self managing?

My own inclination, as you know, is to be skeptical of claims about “essential” or “necessary core institutions”; such claims, in my own experience, have often divided our ranks along ideological lines and kept us from the collaborative work and mutual appreciation of diversity required to build a formidable movement. For me, our main source of guidance in creating upwardly scaled institutions are those which have already stood the test of time, are replicable in flexible ways, and exemplify to a large extent basic SE (and Parecon) values. In this way, we “make the road by walking”; practice guides theory.

    Nonetheless, the specific “core institutions” you mention sound a whole lot better than most allegedly indispensable institutions; they would I think be of considerable interest to many within SE – especially since there is so much genuine agreement between Parecon and SE on fundamental goals. This then in my view would make an ideal place to begin a dialogue between Parecon and SE, with the hope of it leading not only to (a) verbal common ground on what SE/Parecon institutions would or should look like, but – more importantly – (b) active collaboration to reshape current institutions and/or invent and implement more fully democratic, just, and effective (capitalism-resistant) ones.
    How to start this dialogue ball rolling? One way would be for Parecon and SE folks to co-create workshops at major SE events; e.g., conferences given by the US Solidarity Economy Network(SEN), US Federation of Worker Cooperatives, Canadian Worker Cooperative Federation, North American Students of Cooperation, and Eastern Conference for Workplace Democracy, among others. In June of 2010, not long from now, the next US Social Forum will take place in Detroit, Michigan; US SEN will be a major participant. There are also of course many analogs to these events outside North America; e.g., those coordinated by the Intercontinental Network for the Promotion of the Social/Solidarity Economy (RIPESS), of which US SEN as well as many Canadian and Mexican groups are now active members.

 

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By Krimerman, Len at Aug 19, 2009 04:45 AM

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CLARITY, YES – BUT HOW ACHIEVED AND ABOUT WHAT?

Michael,
You have raised an important question about SE:

...some degree of clarity about what SE stands for might be good!....there is a sense in which SE's vagueness makes for some arbitrariness, on the one hand, and perhaps for a lack of overall impact - on the other hand.

Yes, there is some unclarity about the boundaries of SE; it’s often vague just what belongs to this growing movement and what is excluded from it. Whether this has been detrimental, as you suggest, is another question; I know of no tangible evidence that supports that concern.

There is however a different and, I think, much more profound issue: “How – and about what – should SE seek self-clarification?”

In their article, “Building a Solidarity Economy Through Real World Practices” (in Solidarity Economy, edited by Allard, Davidson, and Matthaie), Emily Kawano and Ethan Miller offer a provocative response to this question. They seek clarity, but do not offer or rely on any “specific definition of the solidarity economy”; instead, they prefer to utilize “a process through which participants would define it themselves”. Rather than “a few people coming up with a ‘big model’ of how the economy should be organized” – a tendency they attribute to the “Left” – they see the “solidarity approach” to self-clarification as

... more of a dialogue to bring people together to find common ground from which to organize and build movements.

The Kawano and Miller article actually describes a workshop in which this bottom-up and dialogical approach was used at the Atlanta US Social Forum in 2007. Participants were provided with “stepping stone cards”, each of which briefly described a single solidarity economy initiative. In small groups, discussions took place about these initiatives with the aim of discovering the “values and principles the Stepping Stones held in common”. The result was considerable agreement around this consistent set of six principles/values:

• stewardship of the environment/sustainability;
• cooperation;
• shared well-being (with an emphasis on the importance of diversity);
• equality;
• exploring and promoting non-monetary and non-traditional forms of wealth;
• democracy and participation.

The “Stepping Stones” exercise exhibits in miniature how the solidarity economy writ large is endeavoring to define itself. Pioneering practitioners have been inventing new forms of economic activity; they are making the paths we all need “by walking”, and not by following pre-constructed definitions, models or revolutionary recipes. A framework of shared values and principles which can help define SE then emerges from reflection on these practical inventions, on what has worked well and what hasn’t, what they share in common, and how they can link and ally with one another to gather more strength and larger constituencies.

Thus the call for more clarity is addressed, but in a way that most fully respects the basic bottom-up democratic spirit of SE. Practice becomes primary; the role of theory, reflection, research is a secondary or supportive one; e.g., identifying where and how disparate SE initiatives can collaborate, or helping to “animate” SE practitioners in their own efforts at self-definition. (For more on this, see M. A. Rahman’s People’s Self-Development.)
On the whole, I am drawn to this bottom up and dialogical approach to clarity. But by itself, or as framed by Kawano and Miller, it leaves some important questions unaddressed. How, for example is it decided just who – which practitioners – can engage in that process: should AID, which often generates economic opportunities for marginalized groups, while remaining an arm of US military policy – be included or excluded?
In addition, consider this statement from veteran SE activist Dan Swinney:

There’s a crisis that’s global, that’s environmental, that’s economic, and this is destabilizing our world....While I’m heartened by what we’re doing, I know that we’re way behind the growing power of the Low Road, and we are losing at this point. We urgently need a program that speaks to how we would differently organize the economy in a comprehensive way from the micro to the macro level. (from Solidarity Economy, op. cited)

Or this, from a spokesperson for Brazil’s avowedly anti-capitalist MST:

In the 20 years of the MST, and with all the struggle that we have had along with other rural social movements, we have settled 580 thousand families, 350 thousand of those during the eight years of Fernando Henrique’s government. But the evaluation of FHC’s government is negative because if we achieved the expropriation of 16 million hectares of land for 350 thousand families, in the same period due to other policies of property concentration, through buying land from their neighbors or the appropriation of public land, large land owners have accumulated more than 70 million hectares in their patrimony. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=7036
João Pedro Stédile interviewed by Otto Filgueiras January 16, 2005 Gazeta Mercantil

What these two quotes illuminate is that there is a need for clarity about more than “principles or values”. That is, the clarity arrived at by the Stepping Stones exercise, or by iterations of it throughout the solidarity economy, will not automatically yield the sort of “program” Dan Swinney is calling for, or reverse the sort of losing battle dramatically highlighted by the MST case. For this, a different level of “clarity” is needed; i.e., consensus around what could be called “oppositional strategic priorities” (OSPs), ones that gain ground against global capitalism; that take power and resources away from the Low Roaders and remake and reallocate them within solidarity institutions. For SE to become all that it can be, I submit, some of its current practices must be seen as less and some as more desirable than others, even if both are informed by “principles...that have been articulated around the world as characterizing the solidarity economy”.
To take a perhaps controversial case: the Grameen Bank, and many other micro-credit initiatives. Critics have argued, I think rightly, that

the effectiveness of microcredit programs to reduce poverty is unclear. In Bangladesh, the Grameen Bank determined that its microcredit program raises 5% of participants out of poverty each year. But...these conclusions are misleading. The Grameen Bank reaches out to 20% of the Bangladeshi population. As a result, the program lifts 5% of that 20%, or only 1% of the total population out of poverty each year, while the population increases by 1.8%. In other words, microcredit does not eradicate poverty; rather it makes it easier for countries to live with poverty. www.globalization101.org/index.php?file=news1&id=58

In the current global economic climate, microcredit as a poverty alleviation tool, by itself, is analogous to giving a man a fishing pole, and telling him to go fish -- in the wake of a giant trawler whose net spans the horizon. http://www.ieo.org/kav001.html

This does not imply that micro-credit programs are always part of the problem or should all be condemned. But to be considered a “best practice” within SE such programs would need to be firmly connected to an OSP that did not contribute to or leave people exploited by global capitalism; nor could they remain dependent upon outside capitalist sources of finance capital.

In this way, AID micro-credit programs could be sharply distinguished from those supported by India’s Self-Employed Womens Association (SEWA), in which participants have formed their own Bank and won union recognition. Clarity would then have much sharper edges.

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By Albert, Michael at Aug 19, 2009 10:57 AM

Len, you say there is "no evidence that the vagueness of SE has hurt."

But that depends on what SE is trying to be, or to become. For example, insofar as SE is trying to promote, facilitate, and nurture experiments in economic organization, I think it has hurt. Thus, if SE had more to say about what a worthy and innovative experiment has to include, it would impact and assist choices by SE people in setting up projects - and that would be good.

You say that there is a proposal to go forward in definition by "a process through which participants would define it themselves". Rather than "a few people coming up with a ‘big model' of how the economy should be organized" - a tendency they attribute to the "Left"

I think in practice this is a false dichotomy.

Suppose that SE folks all over the world begin to think about what SE is for, what it is seeking, what it is committed to, what it agrees on, etc., and also about what a future economy meeting the aspirations of SE would look like. Okay, now suppose a group meets and discusses these matters in Porto Alegre, or in Barcelona, or in Montreal, or say, in Amherst. The group works hard, and hashes out ideas, and comes up with something it believes in. Now what?

Does the group take its insights and bury them, waiting for others elsewhere to follow the same path, hopefully arriving at the same ends? Or does the group impose what it thinks on everyone? You seem to imply that these are the two options. In fact, however, here is a third - the group thinks about its results, expresses them in print, talks, etc., as clearly as it can - with plain language, etc. - and invites/welcomes, reactions, critiques, etc. to push forward the explorations and discussions. Now, the continuing bottom-up participatory discussion occurring in each place and project of SE has a new thing that it can add to the array of experiences and ideas it addresses - it can assess not just its own recent practice, but also the insights of the others.

I don't understand people looking at carefully thought out proposals and ideas and saying, hey, they aren't bottom up - so we can't use them. To me, that makes no sense. The person making this complaint, it seems to me, either doesn't know what bottom up means - thinking it means everyone does it all alone, without interacting with what others think - or they are simply saying, we don't like those particular ideas and rather than say that, we will try to avoid addressing them by labeling them big, or left, or whatever. Because if people want bottom up, they want participation, they want vision that is shared and assessed and refined and evolved by lots and lots of people - then they won't turn away from proposed vision or strategy (which of course always emerges from experiences, history, thought about possibilities, etc. etc.) but would welcome and relate to it.

The part I understand is not wanting a process that is dominated, from the beginning to the end, by a very few people - whether those who make an initial proposal, or others, for that matter. Fine. I agree. I could not agree more. But the answer is to go forward. To participate. To get others to participate. Not to take anything that surfaces and is serious and thought through and dismiss is, basically, on grounds it isn't bottom up.....

You say they want "... more of a dialogue to bring people together to find common ground from which to organize and build movements." I agree, what is Reimagining Society, if not that?

You say, "The Kawano and Miller article actually describes a workshop in which this bottom-up and dialogical approach was used at the Atlanta US Social Forum in 2007. ... The result was considerable agreement around this consistent set of six principles/values..."

I was there - it was a good thing, I agree. But why is this seen as in any sense different than what others do? Take parecon, it emerges from the experience of setting up a workplace, South End Press, from examining the experiences of various revolutions and social systems, from movements here, etc., and from discussions, debates, explorations, classes, whole courses, seminars, and so on.

Suppose a couple of people in SE, or five, or forty, go off and work more in sessions like the one you mention, or others. They think and discuss and propose and test and come up with what they think are useful insights. What do they do next?

What's bad, I think we agree, would be to talk only with some elite, in private, about the views, with the elite owning them, so to speak. What's bad, we also agree, would be to anoint themselves as such an elite, etc. What would also be bad, though, I think, is to be silent, to bury the ideas rather than conveying them - in some ostensible loyalty to bottom up methodology - hoping that others will independently get to a similar place. What would be good, instead, if for them to make their thoughts public, clear, accessible, and to welcome discussion, debate, etc., in a truly participatory process. And if that led to agreement, great. If not, then others would make alternative proposals, and so on.

Once ideas are offered, made clear, etc, each time it happens, pursuing a bottom up approach to developing related insights then has as one possible path, addressing what people offer. As another, some folks could some up with something else and offer that. People in both cases would widely discuss and debate options.

What would negate a bottom up approach, even if urged in the name of participation, would be to say, okay, now we will ignore what anyone proposes that is serious and thought through, and we will instead, start over, again, and again - until when?

You say, "The "Stepping Stones" exercise exhibits in miniature how the solidarity economy writ large is endeavoring to define itself."

I hope so, but I don't think I believe it, honestly. For reasons noted above. The results of the session - which did not however get too far - how could it have - should have then been made public, with an invitation and a means to further pursue them. There should be efforts to broaden, enlarge, and enrich the discussion, addressing the best proposals that emerge, using experiences and history as evidence, and so on.

Consider another discipline. Say physics. There is a body of thought. There is an effort to push it forward to address and successfully move beyond existing domains and problems. What happens?

Well, the basis on which people try to contribute is an understanding of the history of evolving related concepts and practice (experiments). And then, too, it is the range of new ideas and proposals, theories, that are offered.

How does that happen? Well, in the whole community there are people prioritizing the issues - lots of them. They tend to exist in separate places - universities, etc. etc. They gather however, in little local conferences, and sometimes bigger ones. How do the new ideas happen? Well, the people talk, they debate, they process new experiences which are widely shared. They take proposals for new shared views - the theories people offer - and test them. Do the theories typically get developed by one or by a couple of people? Yes. But is it a participatory process? Yes.

What would happen if the approach was that no one can offer a new theory publicly for collective discussion, all you can do is think it in your office, or talk with your fellow physicists at your local institution, or maybe in a larger meeting, during work sessions - but not addressing what others have to say, not addressing theories they offer, etc., instead wanting all physicists to somehow do it alone, themselves? Honestly, just asking the question reveals the answer.

Equally absurd, in this physics example, would be someone trying to impose a theory by force, or authority - which is a much more of a serious danger in the political realm, to be sure. So the in between option rises as the only option - physicists propose, discuss, elaborate, agree, disagree, refine, and eventually collectively move forward on a new shared basis.

That is what the left needs to do, too. And the obstacle is not that some people take initiative and offer proposals - though it is a problem that too few people do that, a weakness resoc is trying to address. The even larger obstacle is that most people don't relate to the proposals others make, don't debate, explore, extend, and otherwise react almost as though they believe to think and propose is somehow a bad thing.

When you say "Pioneering practitioners have been inventing new forms of economic activity; they are making the paths we all need "by walking", and not by following pre-constructed definitions, models or revolutionary recipes."

I think it is, again, meaningless, to be generous. Let's set aside for a minute that SE to my knowledge is not, in fact, creating things that don't and didn't already exist - I hope I am wrong in that. But in any event, people don't work in isolation - they work based on past lessons, understandings of relations, etc. This is true for all people, those you have in mind, starting some project, and those who propose visions or strategies, too, sometimes the latter even more so.

When we started South End Press, building a publishing house with features SE would celebrate, some of which were quite innovative, others familiar but rarely used, we weren't acting without thinking, without paying attention to past thoughts, to past practice, to others lessons. Quite the contrary, of course. And to a very considerable degree what was best about this experiment, South End Press, was something we incorporated in it against the advice of almost everyone, against all our past experience, because we THOUGHT about it. We sat and said, okay, if it is going to be really democratic, really self managing, what do we have to do to the way we divide up responsibilities and work to sustain that commitment and make it real. And thus was born, in practice, what evolved into balanced job complexes.

Similarly, take coops. To form one, tomorrow, as an SE person, constructing it to be like all those that have gone before, is one option. To form one, tomorrow, as an SE person, that innovates perhaps with, say, a new approach to the organization of work such as balanced job complexes, or a new logic of remuneration, and understanding the effect of markets on their endeavors - is another option. I think the second option in which people utilize the thoughts and experiences of others as well as their own, is vastly better. Does it mean the group isn't thinking for itself that it incorporates a feature or features that have emerged from other people's thought and practice? Quite the contrary. Does mean an end to innovation? Quite the contrary.

You say you want, "A framework of shared values and principles which can help define SE then emerges from reflection on these practical inventions, on what has worked well and what hasn't, what they share in common, and how they can link and ally with one another to gather more strength and larger constituencies."

Fine, I agree. But innovation did not start with SE. It goes back a couple of centuries, and more. The experiences we should consult are our own - I agree - so, for me, for example, I certainly consult my own experiences in building and working in new work environments, and in assessing other people's recent experiences, of course. But surely we should also consult the experiences of others, today but also in history - so I look at the history of capitalist and anti capitalist projects and movements, at current efforts, etc. and at what other people have thought about it all.

What we are talking about is arguably usefully called, unequal development. There is no debating that the basis for innovative thought should be the full available range of thought and experiences. But yes, some people inevitably have more time, or are better positioned, or have different experiences, or are lucky - whatever - and happen to have a good idea or ideas before other people do. This is not a bad thing. The problem that can arise from this unequal development is if we then say, okay, these folks should be made bosses, should own their ideas, should impose their will - etc. etc. But if once the unequal development surfaces an idea or ideas they become available to all to think about, assess, refine - then it is a good thing.

You say "practice becomes primary; the role of theory, reflection, research is a secondary or supportive one; e.g., identifying where and how disparate SE initiatives can collaborate, or helping to "animate" SE practitioners in their own efforts at self-definition."

I have to be honest, I think this is confused. If I as an SE person am interested in creating a coop, or some other project - saying I do it with practice primary just doesn't mean anything, as best I can tell. Instead, in fact, I will start from some position based on past experiences and ideas - then I am doing things that make sense in light of all I know - then I think about it, and maybe learn something new - or hear about something new from others - and then incorporate that, which is to say, changing my choices in light of it.

You say, "On the whole, I am drawn to this bottom up and dialogical approach to clarity. But by itself, or as framed by Kawano and Miller, it leaves some important questions unaddressed."

Well, as you relay it - it leaves almost everything that matters about methodology unaddressed, I think. For example, how does a group, say SE, take benefit from good ideas, wherever they arise, however partial or complete, without developing bad practices - sectarian or hierarchical...

You quote another SE person saying "There's a crisis that's global, that's environmental, that's economic, and this is destabilizing our world....While I'm heartened by what we're doing, I know that we're way behind the growing power of the Low Road, and we are losing at this point. We urgently need a program that speaks to how we would differently organize the economy in a comprehensive way from the micro to the macro level. (from Solidarity Economy, op. cited)"

Fine, I agree. That is what resoc is trying to contribute to. And, by the way, I also develop local efforts, talk to individuals, etc. etc. It is simply not either or ... that is a false dichotomy.

You say, "For SE to become all that it can be, I submit, some of its current practices must be seen as less and some as more desirable than others, even if both are informed by "principles...that have been articulated around the world as characterizing the solidarity economy".

Fine. If SE had a relatively clear, broad picture of what desirable core institutions are, it would permit assisting SE projects to incorporate the seeds of that preferred future in the present, it would help in motivating and generating hope, it would help in judging the effectiveness, or lack, or projects and struggles, etc. etc. 

You say, "In other words, microcredit does not eradicate poverty; rather it makes it easier for countries to live with poverty. www.globalization101.org/index.php?file=news1&id=58"

But - if an approach was making some material headway, but, more, blazing a path to shared values and commitment to fight for more, it would, on the latter basis, be very very worthy. I doubt that is true, however, for the banks you mention - which, I suspect, do not inspire an anticapitalist, seriously revolutionary mindset, practice, or commitment.

 

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By Albert, Michael at Jul 29, 2009 09:03 AM

Len,

Thanks for the very serious reply - it is long, so I will try to be succinct...to keep the reply manageable...

You point to three aspects of your article, I think wondering my reaction...

You identify "several of SE's most prominent initiatives as pioneers of new, up-scaled, highly participatory - and institutional - forms of democracy." And I of course support and appreciate each - seeing each, by the way, as well, as part and parcel of seeking parecon...and a participatory society, too...

You "call for a much expanded SE focus on building so-called support organizations, that is, ones which offer crucial resources for starting, maintaining, and growing SE enterprises." Again, of course I support the idea. But I do think SE enterprises is a very vague phrase and I don't actually know what qualifies, and what doesn't.

You "strongly recommend an institution-building alliance between SE and what I called solidarity governance (SG). These latter grassroots activists are challenging the nation state's claim to exclusive authority, and have created ways to share governance and remake power by inventing new forms of direct democratic governance." Again, no problem from me. And parecon is really just one part of participatory society, including participatory polity - you might take a look at Stephen Shalom's essay on the latter.

But the one thing I would add, so far, is, while I like the list of specifics you offered, I feel, for example, there are even more inspiring other relations, too, for example in Venezuela, Bolivia, etc, and it seems to me solidarity needs to include solidarity for movements around the world seeking more just relations, in all domains of life, even as SE emphasizes economic aspects.

You say, "For the most part, this seems to be proceeding in a bottom-up direction; that is, the sole or primary criterion for second tier, support, or larger scale institutions seems to be whether they are "woven together" by and serve to protect the self-determination of ground level grassroots groups."

I am not sure I get this. Of course we favor, both parecon and SE - I hope - bottom up grassroots activism, structures of self management, etc. etc. But being grassroots, or ground level is not necessarily the same as being exemplary, or even good...obviously. And presumably, even while favoring, as an example, a group of workers at a GM plant, creating a new way of working together inside the firm - or for that matter, supporting a small feeder business that was instituting some new relations in the auto industry - we would/should also support firm wide or industry wide efforts at desirable innovations as well.

You "call for SE to adopt the following principle of cross-organizational or cross-movement collaboration; this would apply between grassroots initiatives, but also in the creation or remaking of institutions of whatever size or scope."

Once again, what's to dislike? Except that it is a bit vague as in - what if there is a grassroots racist organization, or sexist one, or classist one, and so on. I presume the answer is, well, obviously, that has nothing to do with solidarity. But, it is often not so simple...I think. So while regimented norms are probably unecessary and counter productive, some degree of clarity about what SE stands for might be good!

You urge that "SE ENTERPRISES COLLABORATE TO BUILD A JUST, FULLY DEMOCRATIC, AND PEACE-BASED SOCIETY.
They collaborate with a diverse range of other grassroots democratic or citizen-shaped groups to build, and share power in, a fully democratic society whose institutions, resources, and opportunities are accessible equally by all, and where non-violent dialogue and conflict resolution are widely used to prevent and manage conflicts."

Okay, very nice. But now arises the question, what steps and structures propel that aim, and which ones incorporate, if elevated to a matter of principle, the seeds of dissollution of that aim? Suppose there is a capitalist firm that says because we produce something nice for people, or we do neighborhood service, or something, we are an SE firm? Are they? If not, why not? If so, why? Microsoft, I am quite confident without looking, I admit, probably does more social services, by volume, than any other existing SE firm, and can claim to produce nice things for people, including the disabled, etc. yet, I doubt SE would welcome it aboard. Or the U.S. government, say, is that an SE institution?

In other words, there is a sense in which SE's vagueness makes for some arbitraryness, on the one hand, and perhaps for a lack of overall impact - on the other hand.

Then you add that you think my "view appears to be somewhat at odds with this bottom up, and primacy of practice, approach."

Really? I spend my time building and working on alternative instittuions. I support them in many ways. I seek an end to top down decision making in all domains, and so on.

But, yes, it is also true that I am somewhat at odds with the idea of "the primacy of practice" if that phrase means one cannot apply one's mind as well, discerning what acts and approaches - now, as well as in the long history we can examine - are harmful and which ones are promising - and then cautiously rejecting the former and advocating the latter.

My guess is that you would not want to be part of a leninist party. Whether you would or not, I am very confident many SEers would not want to be, probably a large majority. But why not? The hypothetical party says it is for everything SE is for. The members are sincere, indeed, taking huge risks and working tirelessly - far more so than many in SE. So why would many in SE, say, well, no, I don't think it is for me? Suddenly anything goes - no longer applies. Answer - if you would say that,I suspect it would be because you felt the Leninists' commitments would obliterate their fine aspirations, regardless of people's desires. Okay, that is, in my view, correct, but more important, wether right or wrong, it is an example of thinking about structures and deciding that one is simply contrary to the aims of SE. Does it mean SE, if lots of SE-ers felt that way, would have to in sum total make it a plank, so to speak? No, not necessarily. It might make that sensible, at some point, or it might not.

So the same holds for private ownership of productive assets, corporate divisions of labor, remuneration for property, power, or even output, and market allocation. In my view, these are contrary to SE's aims, at least as I tend to hear the aims expressed. So, I would have to argue if I was in SE, that in the long run those institutions are anathema...and that in the short run, experiments, projects, etc. that challenge those institutions, moving away form them and toward alternatives, are exemplary. I would also argue, on the other hand, that projects that innovate a bit but retain a high level of commitment to those structures, not just as temporary necessities, but as desirable in the future, are not exemplary in remotely the same degree.

You note that I asked how you "would react to parecon's proposed workers and consumers' self managing councils, balanced job complexes, remuneration for duration, intensity, and onerousness of conditions of work, and participatory planning? Could you see SE continuing to pursue its many diverse experiments and projects, but developing, over time, a commitment to these core institutions as being essential if a new economy is to be truly solidaritous and self managing?"

You answer: "My own inclination, as you know, is to be skeptical of claims about essential or necessary core institutions; such claims, in my own experience, have often divided our ranks along ideological lines and kept us from the collaborative work and mutual appreciation of diversity required to build a formidable movement."

And, in the abstract, formulated thus, I agree. But it does not answer the question to say that - unless you think that that suspicion, if you will, warrants ruling out apriori, without even looking at their attributes, any proposals for future structures.

Take Venezuela, now. Does it foster diversity and mutual appreciation, say, to assert the property rights of owners, or to argue for top down planning, or markets for that matter? Or not? This is on the agenda, now, in many places in the world.

You add, "For me, our main source of guidance in creating upwardly scaled institutions are those which have already stood the test of time, are replicable in flexible ways, and exemplify to a large extent basic SE (and Parecon) values. In this way, we make the road by walking; practice guides theory."

That's fine, but we have been walking for a couple of centuries. And all I have said is that based on those two centuries of experience there are some actually quite limited claims we can quite confidently make - about some institutions that violate the values you mention - and others that propel them. If that is ruled out apriori - I don't see how or when more talking can yield more shared insight.

You then add, "Nonetheless, the specific core institutions you mention sound a whole lot better than most allegedly indispensable institutions; they would I think be of considerable interest to many within SE - especially since there is so much genuine agreement between Parecon and SE on fundamental goals. This then in my view would make an ideal place to begin a dialogue between Parecon and SE, with the hope of it leading not only to (a) verbal common ground on what SE/Parecon institutions would or should look like, but - more importantly - (b) active collaboration to reshape current institutions and/or invent and implement more fully democratic, just, and effective (capitalism-resistant) ones."

Well, that is precisely the agenda of solidarity I think makes sense, too.

You ask: "How to start this dialogue ball rolling? One way would be for Parecon and SE folks to co-create workshops at major SE events; e.g., conferences given by the US Solidarity Economy Network(SEN), US Federation of Worker Cooperatives, Canadian Worker Cooperative Federation, North American Students of Cooperation, and Eastern Conference for Workplace Democracy, among others."
 

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By Ward, Peter at Jul 25, 2009 21:32 PM

It's sort of an inevitability that mass movements, once under way, progress toward sterility. Nearly nothing brings hostile passions to the surface quicker than politics. This is compounded by the fact most are acquisitive with respect to members an as a result work harder and harder to avoid "controversy" as they grow. Of course they alienate, if not actively drive away, serious members in this process but they have plenty of new recruits in the mean time to make up for it. A critical element of a success movement, it would seem, is making adherence to principle priority whatever the other consequences, especially causing offense.

As to the source of offense, presuming the subject in question doesn't have an ulterior motive, of course: we all have to deal with institutions, in our daily lives, implicitly or explicitly rejected by the movement in question and therefore are subject to the burden of recognition of past irreversible past decisions, such as a prestigious career that turns out in fact to be a fraud. Even at the level of sweatshop labor, there is at least a potential for resentment of serious left movements--if they fail to to deliver material goods in a relatively short time the suffering one still has to endure becomes meaningless--such as veterans who refuse to admit the sordid reality of the US role in the Second World War because it makes a nonsense of the trauma they went through.

I do not think these are insurmountable obstacles by any means, but they are ones we should be prepared for. The problem of meaningfulness is resolved, in part, by pointing out, to refer the example above, that in fact the war served a purpose, albeit a cynical one, and wasn't merely a senseless act of sadism. Of course there are limits, and the reality is there will always be causalities, a fact we should not shirk from.

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