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By David Peterson at Feb 15, 2006 |
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For those among you who have never come across it before, there is a relatively new weblog titled:
Believe it or not.
According to the information on the website, this blog was launched in early December, 2005---so it's only a little more than two months old.
Still. Notice the timing: Shortly after the October 31, 2005 start of The Guardian - Chomsky thing. (The endless points and counterpoints and recriminations.) The formal halving of the estimated death-toll to have been caused during the 1992 - 1995 wars over Bosnia and Herzegovina to somewhere around 100,000. But now, crucially, by researchers working for the Demographic Unit of the Office of the Prosecutor at the ICTY. Similar work being carried out by the Sarajevo-based Research and Documentation Center. As well as the other contests to have arisen over the questions of body-counts. Causes and intent. The historical record. (Who gets to keep it, ultimately? And who doesn't?) And the whole series of ludicrous and politically motivated charges these overlapping subject areas have generated the past eight months or so. But above all those tied to the most ludicrous charges of them all: That there was indeed an event best characterized as the Bosnian Genocide. (By which the Bosnian Genocide Affirmers and the Bosnian Genocide Promoters mean a project undertaken by ethnic Serbs during the wars in Bosnia and Herzegovina, not just to kill their enemies in the war and to seize and occupy their enemies' territory, but also to [fill in the blank, as nobody within the camp of Affirmers and Promoters has ever been able to do].) And that the Truth of this particular Genocide, namely the Bosnian Genocide, which evidently was a Genocide and forever will be a Genocide, whether 250,000, 200,000, or 100,000 people on all sides were killed during the wars, is so well-established, so important, and so incorrigibly true, no one can dispute the use of the term 'genocide' with respect to the events there and then, without also being guilty of the intellectual and moral crimes that go by the names denial and revisionism. (For an exemplary instance of this political approach to the historical record, and the campaign to scare off challengers to those who'd like to keep the record all to themselves, see "The Guardian, Noam Chomsky, and the Milosevic Lobby," Marko Attila Hoare, The Henry Jackson Society, February 4, 2006. Though this kind of work is far from alone.)
The Srebrenica Genocide Blog includes re-postings of material lifted from the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia. As well as other electronic sources. Such as the aforementioned Marko Attila Hoare ("The Left Revisionists," "Chomsky's Genocide Denial," "The Guardian, Noam Chomsky and the Milosevic Lobby"), Bill Weinberg's World War 4 Report ("Why Does Z Magazine Support Genocide?"), and other beauties ("Srebrenica -- Defending Truth," "Edward Herman on The lists of Missing at Srebrenica," and a post that purports to define the phrase 'Srebrenica Genocide Denial and Revisionism', among others). (See below, where I'll post a copy of this very last item on the menu.)
The Srebrenica Genocide Blog provides links to (i.e., recommends) seven other websites, including the Bosnian Institute, Balkan Witness, and the Henry Jackson Society.
Last, the Srebrenica Genocide Blog is run by a fellow in Canada named Daniel (email: srebrenicagenocide@gmail.com ). Though nothing else is available on the gentleman that I've been able to find.
“War-related Deaths in the 1992–1995 Armed Conflicts in Bosnia and Herzegovina: A Critique of Previous Estimates and Recent Results,” Ewa Tabeau and Jakub Bijak, European Journal of Population, Volume 21, June, 2005, pp. 187-215
Population Losses in Bosnia and Herzegovina 92-95 Project, Research and Documentation Center, Sarajevo
"Genocide Is Not a Matter of Numbers," Emir Suljagic interviews Mirsad Tokaca of the Sarajevo-based Research and Documentation Center, Bosnian Institute News & Analysis, January 19, 2006
Srebrenica and the Politics of War Crimes (Homepage), Srebrenica Research Group
"The Bosnian Genocide Promoters," ZNet, February 15, 2006
FYA ("For your archives"): One item lifted from the Srebrenica Genocide Blog. The list of "keywords" reproduced at the very bottom are beyond irony. To repeat them for you here: "Srebrenica Genocide, Srebrenica Massacre, Srebrenica Genocide Denial, Srebrenica Massacre Denial, Srebrenica Genocide Revisionism, Srebrenica Massacre Revisionism, Srebrenica Genocide Deniers, Srebrenica Massacre Deniers, Bosniaks, Bosnian Muslims, Bosniak, Bosnian Muslim, Bosniacs, Muslims, Bosniac, Muslim." Somehow or other, the author neglected to mention Satan.---Please see to it that this mistake does not happen again.
* http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2006/02/srebrenica-genocide-denial-revisionism.html#links
09 February, 2006
SREBRENICA GENOCIDE DENIAL AND REVISIONISM: SHORT DEFINITIONSrebrenica Genocide denial, also called Srebrenica Genocide revisionism, is the belief that the Srebrenica genocide did not occur, or, more specifically: that far fewer than around 8,100 Srebrenica Bosniaks were killed by the Bosnian Serb Army (numbers below 5,000, most often around 2,000 are typically cited); that there never was a centrally-planned Bosnian Serb Army's attempt to exterminate the Bosniaks of Srebrenica; and/or that there were no mass killings at the extermination sites.
Those who hold this position often further claim that Bosniaks and/or Western media know that the Srebrenica genocide never occurred, yet that they are engaged in a massive conspiracy to maintain the illusion of a Srebrenica Genocide to further their political agenda. These views are not accepted as credible by objective historians.
Srebrenica genocide deniers almost always prefer to be called Srebrenica Genocide revisionists. Most scholars contend that the latter term is misleading. Historical revisionism is a well-accepted part of the study of history; it is the reexamination of historical facts, with an eye towards updating histories with newly discovered, more accurate, or less biased information. The implication is that history as it has been traditionally told may not be entirely accurate. The term historical revisionism has a second meaning, the illegitimate manipulation of history for political purposes. For example, Srebrenica Genocide deniers (or Srebrenica Genocide revisionists as they like to be called) typically willfully misuse or ignore historical records in order to attempt to prove their conclusions.
While historical revisionism is the re-examination of accepted history, with an eye towards updating it with newly discovered, more accurate, and less-biased information, Srebrenica Genocide deniers/revisionists have been using it to seek evidence in support of their own preconceived theory, omitting substantial facts.
Most Srebrenica Genocide deniers reject the term Genocide and insist that they do not deny the Srebrenica Massacre, prefering to be called "revisionists". They are nevertheless commonly labeled as Srebrenica Genocide deniers to differentiate them from historical revisionists and because their goal is to deny the existance of the Srebrenica Genocide, by omitting substantial facts, rather than honestly using historical evidence and methodology to examine the event.
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Genocide - how can any one
By Spx1, Momomo at Oct 28, 2006 12:35 PM
Genocide - how can any one possibly have ever said 'Never Again'? Just look at the last 17 years... the number of Genocides are increasing. Take the Bosnia Genocide, then Rwanda, now Darfur. So Disturbing - it makes me not want to have children.
We keep forgetting and we keep creating the conditions to allow old scores to be settled so easily... How many people talk about the first modern genocide, the Armenian Genocide?
http://www.warcrimes.info/shop/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=249
Someone give may a ray of hope... I just want to sleep and not wake up.
John.
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Clinton/Albright responsible for not preventing Rwanda genocide
By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 08, 2006 03:31 AM
Hi David,
Thought you might like this reply of mine in response to a post from Noam's blog entitled "Shut Down the UN" available at:
http://blogs.zmag.org/node/2562#comment-55583
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"And don't forget that ten years ago thousands of Bosnian Muslims
were murdered by the Serb militias who were in a UN protected “safe haven” with hundreds of UN soldiers assigned to defend them. Yet the UN stood by while the entire adult and teenage male
population was systematically butchered."
Sir, this claim is dead WRONG. The only "systematic butchering" that really took place in Srebrenica while the UN peacekeepers apathetically "stood by" (and which the UN top brass at New York's headquarters turned a blind eye and deaf ear to) was the hideously brutal slaughter of over 3,800 Serbian CIVILIANS - mainly elderly men, women and young children from early 1992 to July 1995 - by Alija Izetbegovic's SDA party Bosnian Islamist fundamentalist Nazi faction warlord, Mr. Naser Oric (recently freed by the NATO owned ICTY "war crimes tribunal" after serving only 2 and a half years!!).This brutal slaughter, whilst NOT specifically denied by NATO, the NATO owned ICTY or the Bush Administration, is NEVER referred to as "genocide".
See my below comment post on the UK "Scotsman" newspaper concerning this vile NATO obscenity and affront to humanity (available at: http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=973262006):
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Dear John, you write that:
"Naser Oric is just as guilty as Gen. Ratko Mladic even if he didn't kill as many."
How is General Ratko Mladic "guilty" exactly? What evidence do you have that he ordered or participated in the alleged killing of "...some 8,000 Muslim men and boys in Europe's worst atrocity since the Second World War."
After 11 years the NATO owned ICTY at The Hague has failed to produce a shred of evidence to support the charge that Mladic and/or Karadzic ordered the execution of 8,000 of the late Alija Izetbegovic's troops. For example, the overwhelming majority of bodies examined have NOT been identified as Bosnian muslims (see http://www.srebrenica-report.com and http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/branco-1.htm).
Even the Izetbegovic SDA Bosnian Islamists admit that 5,000 of their troops made it safely to the town of Tuzla through Izetbegovic's SDA held "Bosniak" Islamist lines - troops who were later on re-incorporated into Izetbegovic's "Bosniak" army. Add to this the approximately 3,000 of Izetbegovic's troops who according to the Red Cross also left the area WITHOUT their families being informed, and you discover how they came up with the figure of 8,000 supposedly executed.
See:
http://emperor.vwh.net/articles/pumphrey/Srebrenica.html
http://www.srebrenica-report.com/defense.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/refutat.htm
This alleged moral equivalence between Mladic and Oric is WRONG. Mladic's guilt for the alleged execution of 8,000 of Izetbegovic's troops has not been PROVEN with any documented evidence by NATO - all we have is ASSERTIONS made by the NATO-owned ICTY. Simultaneously we have the documented massacres of 3,870 Serbian civilians by Oric from 1992 to 1995 - which has been confirmed by UN officials and blue helmet "peacekeepers" on the ground at the time -such as French UN general Phillipe Morillon in testimony under oath at the late Milosevic's "trial" by NATO's ICTY.
Oric's massacres of 3,800+ Serbian civilians have NOT been specifically denied by NATO, NATO's ICTY or the UN itself, but have simply been whitewashed and COVERED UP.
Oric was a cold blooded killer who BOASTED to reporters of the Washington Post and Toronto Star about how he murdered Serbian CIVILIANS - elderly men, women and children - mostly by cracking skulls with iron bars & sledgehammers, as well as beheading & dismemberment with axes,knives, daggers and machetes. See
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/oric.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/fulltext.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/gorazde.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/jared/texts2.htm
http://slobodan-milosevic.org/news/smorg030904.htm
All of this has been rigorously documented in official United Nations documents A/48/177, S/25835 and A/47/813, S/24991 describing the hideous murders and rapes of Serbian civilians in and around Srebrenica and other nearby Bosnian towns and villages - available at:
http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/mem.htm
http://www.srebrenica-report.com/docs/UN-1993-1.pdf
The UN document A/47/813, S/24991 on rape by Bosnian Muslim & Croat forces in Bosnia in 1992 can be read at: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/rapes/raped-serbs.html
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As far as who was most guilty at the UN headquarters in New York for failing to prevent the Rwandan genocide, the evidence is quite clear that it was then US ambassador to the UN, the Clinton Administration's Madeleine Albright. See one of my posts from my blog.
Here is an excerpt below:
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Last year, in April 2004, on the 10th anniversary of the [genuine] Rwanda genocide, on an Australian current affairs program [the ABC 7:30 Report], they had a former "UN war crimes prosecutor" who made the following comment:
"Fortunately, in Kosovo, even though a lot of peopledid lose their lives, NATO was not as slow as whathappened, for example, in Rwanda and Bosnia."
This comment implies that what happened in Rwanda was a result of the US Clinton Administration and NATO being "slow" to act, and that while this contributed to the genocide in Rwanda, at least in the case ofKosovo this "slowness" on the part of the US Clinton Administration and NATO was miraculously avoided.Nothing could be further from the truth - in both instances.
The US government, along with NATO states knew EXACTLY what was going on in Rwanda - but patently refused to call it by its properterm-i.e.,genocide;unlike in Kosovo, where the term 'genocide' was frivolously being bandied about by NATO governments even BEFORE the bombing by US/NATO aircraft commenced.
In fact it was NOT a matter of being "slow" to act inthe case of Rwanda - and "quick" to act in the case of Kosovo; it was actually a matter of outright REFUSAL bythe Clinton/Albright team to acknowledge that genocide was happening in Rwanda and then deliberately obstructing-at every turn- every effort by UNpeacekeepers to prevent the genocide of up to 800,000 people.
Why did the US Clinton Administration do this? One possible answer can be found at the following url:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO305A.html
In a report by an eminent panel entitled "Rwanda: The Preventable Genocide" by the Organization for African Unity [now the African Union-released in May 2000] it is openly declared that even though the US was fullyaware that genocide was occurring in Rwanda, then-US ambassador to the UN, Madeleine Albright, was responsible for "playing the key role" in "tossing uproadblocks" at the UN to "..prevent effective action" to stop the genocide.
Isn't it strange how Clinton and Albright were ACTIVELY involved in direct actions at the UN to ensure that the Rwanda genocide took place [ which is far worse and completely different to doing 'nothing' at all] and yet claim that they were intervening on the side of of a known terrorist organization [the KLA] in Kosovo and siding with the Iranian-backed Islamist regime of Alija Izetbegovic [a known Osama bin Laden ally] in Bosnia because they were allegedly trying to "prevent genocide"? It just ISN'T credible.
See the story at:
http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2001/6.html
The report can be viewed in its entirety at:
http://www.visiontv.ca/RememberRwanda/Report.pdf
As terrible as the carnage committed by all three sides was during the Bosnian civil war from '92 to'95, it certainly did NOT qualify as anything approaching genocide [i.e the literal dictionary meaning of the word] of any single ethnic group in thewar [i.e., deliberate extermination of an entire people].
See for example the articles by the prestigious International Strategic Studies Association at: http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1703.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1903.htm
Nor did what occurred in Kosovo in 1999 (max. 2,200 to 2,500 deaths in total for all civilian and military personnel on ALL sides from ALL causes-including "accidental" NATO bombing of civilian victims) qualify as genocide either-despite Clinton/NATO claims to the contrary.
See for example the article by renowned Canadian author, Professor Michel Chossudovsky: "NATO'S CLAIM OF ETHNIC CLEANSING CHALLENGED" at:
http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/chossudovsky/ethnic.htm
Since June '99, at least 95% of the pre-war non-Albanian minority population of 19 distinct ethnic groups [amounting to approximately 350,000 people] has been ethnically cleansed from the province under the very supervision of NATO troops who were supposed to be protecting them.
The NATO bombing of Serbia/Kosovo in 1999 had less to do with preventing genocide and more to do with "regime change" in Belgrade just as the 2003 war in Iraq had less to do with preventing an attack by WMD and more to do with installing a compliant regime in Baghdad.
The attempt by US and NATO governments to exonerate themselves by, in effect, saying [to paraphrase]:
"Well we know that 800,000 people were masscared in Rwanda and it's really an unfortunate and sad thing we didn't prevent it because we were just too slow to act, but hey, at least we prevented genocide in Kosovo and you have to give us credit for that"
is a lame and specious argument not supported by the facts.
Regards,
Peter Robert North.
PS: The Srebrenica Hoax was a Cover Up for Clinton's support of Alija Izetbegovic: a fanatical Al Qaeda Islamist Jihad supporter and close friend of Osama bin Laden and KNOWN WAR CRIMINAL Naser Oric [to top it all off, the terrorist KLA leader was Agim Ceku - also a KNOWN WAR CRIMINAL -who worked with the brother of Osama bin Laden's #2 man, Dr. Ayman Al Zawahiri - also another Al Qaeda fanatic supported by Clinton and NATO]
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2005/12/exposing-sbs-bias-censorship-hypocrisy.html
"...Holbrooke, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright and the Clinton White House all played key rôles in supporting the Islamists who, as it transpired, were consistently working with al-Qaida and the Iranian Government, among others, in planning major terrorist attacks on the US. Amb. Hays worked closely with Mr Holbrooke in the UN during this period. As a result, it was now seen as important that this pattern of support for people who were later seen to be involved in terrorist actions against the US should not be allowed to emerge, particularly in the build-up to the elections, which were regarded as being critical to Sen. Hillary Clinton and former NATO Supreme Allied Commander-Europe (SACEUR) Gen. Clark."**********************************************************************
International Strategic Studies Association, Washington DC: GIS Special Topical Reports - Balkan Strategic Studies: October 20, 2003.
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct20%2003.htm
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International Strategic Studies Association, Washington DC: GIS Special Topical Reports - Balkan Strategic Studies: The New Rome & The New Religious Wars, March 1999.
"Little wonder that numerous US policy analysts, eventhose who are hostile to Yugoslavia as a basic stance,
are extremely uncomfortable with the Clinton
Administration's close ties with the KLA.
"There is no doubt that the involvement of the two
brothers al-Zawahiri in the two movements is not
coincidental. Ben Works, director of the Strategic
Research Institute of the US, noted: "There's no doubt
that bin Laden's people have been in Kosovo helping to
arm, equip and train the KLA. . . . The [US]
Administration's policy in Kosovo is to help bin
Laden. It almost seems as if the Clinton
Administration's policy is to guarantee more
terrorism."
"Noted strategic analyst and columnist, former US Army
Colonel Harry Summers, said on August 12, 1998, that
in Kosovo, the US found itself "championing the very
Islamic fundamentalist terrorist groups who are our
mortal enemies elsewhere".
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Rome.htm
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For more evidence of the above concerning the true character of the late Alija Izetbegovic - that of a pro-Islamist Jihad/al Qaeda radical Islamist fundamentalist Nazi - as well as further details on what really happened in Kosovo and Srebrenica, see:
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija1.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija2.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ihralija3.htm
http://www.srebrenica-report.com
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/freezer1.htm
http://www.serbianna.com/features/srebrenica/
http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm
http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1999/fr033199.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/guide-yugo.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/ranta.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/kosovo.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct0703.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1703.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep1903.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct1503.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct0903.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct1603.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Oct20%2003.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Jun1503.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Sep0803.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Aug3193.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Genocide.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Dec3192-2.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Rome.htm
http://www.espritdecorps.ca/new_page_220.htm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO310B.html
http://michaelparenti.org/yugoslavia.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MOS20050803&articleId=795
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=HER20051229&articleId=1667
http://emperors-clothes.com/bosnia/svijet.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/sreb/branco-1.htm
http://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/documents/srebrenica.pdf
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ex-Clinton 'peace envoy' Richard Holbrooke- beneficiary of KLA Narco Terrorist Child Sex Slavery Mafia - gets president of Hague ICTY to free ex-Kosovo PM and KLA war criminal, Ramush Haradinaj, IN ADVANCE of his "surrender" to The Hague ICTY: "a deal would be struck to ensure that he did not serve prison time for the charges he faced."
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US Policy in the Balkans and the Eastern Mediterranean: Time to Stop Choosing Sides, and to Start Choosing Strategic Interests
By Gregory R. Copley,
President, the International Strategic Studies Association.[1]
Presented at the Capitol Hill Conference on
FYROM: The Need for Reassessment of US Policy in the Balkans.
Longworth House of Representatives Office Building,
Washington, DC: April 14, 2005
"The fact that the KLA leader and, until March 8, 2005, Prime Minister of Kosovo, Ramush (Hilmi) Haradinaj, was indicted for war crimes and taken to The Hague for trial still has not penetrated the consciousness of what is transpiring. Moreover, in order to somewhat ease the embarrassment of having backed the wrong side — the side of al-Qaida, the narco-traffickers, the true genocidal xenophobists, and the criminal gangs — in Kosovo, the US is in some ways actively working to let Mr Haradinaj out of prison, so that he can “fight his legal battle from a position of freedom”.
"This is a man charged with having directly and personally killed many innocent people, not a politician who allegedly allowed things to happen by default. The scandal of this particular case has yet to break, but suffice it to say that Albanian mafia linked to the KLA have worked through former US Assistant Secretary of State Richard Holbrooke — a close associate of the KLA and a beneficiary of its support — to approach the US President of the International Criminal Tribunal on the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), Theodore Meron, to see Haradinaj released.[4] There are reports from within the ICTY that the State Department would approve the release of Haradinaj, and had, in fact, agreed with Haradinaj in advance of his surrender to the ICTY, that a deal would be struck to ensure that he did not serve prison time for the charges he faced."
4] Meron, a professor of law at New York University, was a member of the US official delegation to the Rome talks in 1998, at which the establishment of the International Criminal Court (ICC) was discussed. At that conference, he reflected the US line, which was in complete opposition to the foundation of the ICC, but subsequently accepted to be President of the ICC's subsidiary court, the ICTY.
http://www.macedoniansincanada.com/Grecory%20R.%20Copley.htm
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http://www.kosovo.net/ramush.html
"In 1999, the KLA unit under Ramush Haradinaj's command killed 40 civilians from the Kosovo village of Glodjani and threw the bodies into the Radonjic Lake canal."
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Now the United Nations is investigating him after a shooting incident, an investigation which the US has tried to interfere with. Here are the facts:In June, 1999, Ramush ordered the killing of four members of FARK (Armed Forces of the Republic of Kosovo), a rival group to the KLA. As is Albanian custom, the brothers of one dead man went to the father of Ramush to ask for their brother's bones. Ramush later that night went to the brothers, of the Musaj family, where a shooting incident took place.
Ramush was helicoptered to the US base in Kosovo, Camp Bondsteel and then to a United States military hospital in Germany to receive treatment. He is at present in Washington, the guest of congressman Benjamin Gillman, raising funds for his political party before next October's elections in Kosovo.
United Nations investigators into this incident claim that while Ramush was away, Unites States officials left Bondsteel, went to the village of Strellic, where the incident took place, and removed forensic evidence that Ramush had been present, including the act of taking bullets from walls.
United Nations police reports link Ramush to two well-known Albanian Mafia men, Naser Kelmendi and Ekrem Lluka. Lluka is suspected by UN police of being involved actively in the trafficking of drugs in Kosovo, Greece, Italy and Albania.
British military sources, who asked to remain unnamed, classified Ramush as “a psychopath”.
“Someone would pass him information and he would disappear for two hours. The result would be several bodies in a ditch”.
http://www.kosovo.net/ramush.html (Photographs and excerpts from article on details of atrocities against Kosovo Serbs perpetrated by US/UK ally KLA commander & ex-Kosovo Prime Minister, Ramush Haradinaj)
" At the end of 1999 the chief prosecutor of the Hague tribunal, Carla del Ponte, announced that an investigation had been started regarding war crimes against the non-Albanian population in Kosovo. The investigation was almost completely blocked until recently because information was not forthcoming from either side, the spokeswoman of the prosecutor's office of the Hague tribunal, Florence Hartmann (Florence Hartmann-Domankusic), told "Reporter". The new government in Serbia, according to Hartmann, has submitted all documentation to The Hague. "Indictments will be issued only against those persons against whom we have evidence," she explained. Zoran Zivkovic, the Yugoslav minister of internal affairs, told "Reporter" that "more than 30 kilograms of various documents were turned over to the head of the office of the Hague tribunal in Belgrade." In the meanwhile, the investigators of this tribunal have collected about 80 testimonials from family members of the missing and witnesses.
Despite increasingly frequent public discussion (in Serbia) that Agim Cheku, Hashim Thaci and Ramush Haradinaj are under investigation by the Hague tribunal, Hartmann said that "the investigation is in progress", however, she added that she "never confirmed that these three men are under investigation."
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Update on Mr.Daniel Lam - Srebrenica Nazi LIAR strikes again!!
By Kissenger, Clark at Jul 07, 2006 13:31 PM
Hi David,
An update on Mr. Daniel Lam, from Quebec, Canada - the mentally deranged, incredibly profane,obnoxious individual that not only lauds Islamist Nazi mass murderers such as Mr. Naser Oric (recently freed bythe pro-Nazi NATO-owned ICTY) but also regularly sends unbelievably offensive, abusive comments to people under many assumed names.
You may not be aware of the fact that I have completely BANNED anonymous comments from my blog. Why? To refresh your memory, please see the following for an explanation:
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2006/06/mr-daniel-lam-author-of-srebrenica.html
So what does Mr. Daniel Lam do? He creates a new blog - this time under an assumed identity of a Jewish man whose
relatives were murdered in the Holocaust by - get this..... wait for it......drum roll please......BRITISH BACKED SERBIAN PRO-ALLIED RESISTANCE FIGHTERS,KNOWN AS THE ROYALIST "CHETNIKS"(?!)
See Mr. Daniel Lam's latest Nazi racist anti-Serbian pro-Srebrenica genocide PHONY Jewish authored blog, at http://balkan-studies.blogspot.com
On this latest blog under the assumed identity of a non-existent phony Jewish man by the name of "Gabriel Piterberg" (whom supposedly lost 17 relatives in the Holocaust at the hands of the pro-Allied Royalist "Chetnik" Serbs) Mr. Lam yet again repeats his tired old "are you STILL beating your wife?" Big Lie, that less than 2,000 Serbs - both civilian and military- died in ALL of Bosnia in three and half years of warfare with the Islamist Nazi SDA fundamentalist faction led by the late Alija Izetbegovic.
Oh I wish I was kidding about all of this, David.
He even wrote me a comment on my blog. Here it is below, along with my reply:
I lost 17 relatives in the Holocaust. They were killed by Serbian chetniks.
Please read my latest article in it's entirety:
http://balkan-studies.blogspot.com/2006/06/serbia-carried-holocaust-against-jews.html
Thanks.
Gabriel Piterberg
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[For those unfamiliar with Mr.Daniel Lam of Quebec, Canada, he is a mentally deranged, obnoxious,incredibly rude and profane,incorrible teenage Bosnian Islamist Nazi COWARD and a fan of notorious Bosnian Islamist Nazi mass murderer, Naser Oric (recently freed by the pro-Nazi NATO owned ICTY) whom posts under numerous aliases in order to hide his identity - a Bosnian Islamist teenager with an awful lot of time on his hands - whom claims that less than 2,000 Serbs in TOTAL - both civilian & military - died in Bosnia in THREE & A HALF YEARS OF BITTER INTERNECINE WARFARE with the Izetbegovic SDA Islamist Nazi faction.]
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2006/06/mr-daniel-lam-author-of-srebrenica.html]
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2006/03/open-letter-to-mr-daniel-lam-of-quebec.html
Daniel,you really are undermining your credibility with this kind of CRETINOUS, IMBECILIC & puerile deception.
You are about as Jewish as Adolf Eichmann was.
Mr.Lam, PLEASE stop doing such silly things as the above post and your latest identity - amongst dozens of others- this time as a supposed Jew whose relatives were supposedly murdered by the anti-Nazi pro-Allied anti-Communist Royalist "Chetnik" Serbs.
This totally PHONY new blog of yours under an assumed Jewish name only undermines and further erodes your microscopically infinitesimal "credibility" and that of your imbecilic,brain-dead pro-Nazi Islamist friends, such as the Scottish Liberal Democrats' proven LIAR, Mr.Norman Fraser (See http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2006/06/trnopolje-omarska-2-examples-of.html).
Cheeers!!! And have a NICE and happy day, Daniel.
Peter Robert North
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PS: For further info on the who the real Nazis were in WW2 Yugoslavia as well as NOW, see:
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Jan1995.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Genocide.htm
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Dec3192-2.htm
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE0DE1E30F933A25751C0A967958260
http://www.reformation.org/holocaus.html
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Balkan/Balkanindex.htm
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NATO & Guardian are the Holocaust deniers
By Kissenger, Clark at Jun 07, 2006 06:14 AM
The Guardian & indeed NATO, the pope etc were quite unambiguous about their support of Croatia's Tudjman. It is a matter of record that one of his more minor failings was that he was a denier of the Jewish Holocaust. Thus the Guardian is proveably not an opponent of Holocaust denial but merely using it as an excuse to censor.
Incidentally I don't think anybody who disputes the NATO version of Srebrenica denies massacre there - they, like NATO, accept that the Moslem commander Nasir Oric massacred thousands of Serbs, they differ from NATO & their paid ICTY in thinking that Oric's genocide was a criminal act.
Neil
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RE: About the Srebrenica Genocide Blog
By Kissenger, Clark at Apr 26, 2006 13:34 PM
Pete:
This is very interesting and---I believe---important work on your part. Thanks for sharing it with everyone.
For others not familiar with our topic at the moment, see, e.g., "The Bosnian Genocide Promoters." Or simply go straight to the work of this rats&undefined; nest of interlinked members of the Bosnian- and Srebrenica-genocide Lobby. (Namely, the 16 different "Links Worth Checking" that the so-called Srebrenica Genocide Blog currently lists down its left-hand column. Though there are many others besides the 16 listed there.)
I&undefined;d urge everyone to take a look at:
And for three other very fine, yet nevertheless under-read, analyses along the same lines, also see:
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Mr. Daniel Lam of Quebec and his "Srebrenica Genocide" Blogspot
By Kissenger, Clark at Apr 25, 2006 21:54 PM
Hello David,
Regarding Mr. Daniel Lam of Quebec, Canada and his "Srebrenica Genocide Denial" blogspot, see my blog post "An Open Letter to Mr. Daniel Lam of Quebec Canada, author of "Srebrenica genocide blogspot" at
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2006/03/open-letter-to-mr-daniel-lam-of-quebec.html
and at the blog run by Neil Craig of Glasgow, Scotland:
http://a-place-to-stand.blogspot.com/2006_03_01_a-place-to-stand_archive.html
scroll down to the comments section under the article post "Milosevic: Murder of the Century"
Best,
Pete.
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the truth is...
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 27, 2006 16:38 PM
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Cyrano, thanks.
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 27, 2006 10:29 AM
Thanks for the support, Cyrano.
You can rest assured that my comments may have been hot-headed, but not racist.
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Guardian
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 25, 2006 11:12 AM
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Cyrano et al
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 25, 2006 09:24 AM
Sorry, Cyrano, I didn't mean to upset you.
The Guardian blog speaks for itself in that I was allowed to be called a racist for views that were censored from the blog. That's censorship; heirarchical control; containment of dissent; and character assassination. That's the cretinous UK press.
Just to prove that I am not ranting, here is the characteristic racist Guardian position supporting New Labour voiced by Polly Toynbee. Domestic benefits of New labour are everything; to negate any discomfort re. New Labour's Foreign Policy and 100,000+ dead Iraqis etc. see the end of the piece: clothes pegs for our noses. She forgot to add rose-tinted glasses and barrelfuls of tranquilizers.
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/columnist/story/0,,1453089,00.html
It's interesting to note her championing of Gordon Brown, who seems to be competing in the competition for most rightwing UK Labourite in history at the moment. The point is that the liberal dominant media in the UK express extreme, racist views not just by filtering out uncomfortable realities - they express these views openly and directly. But I want their views to stand, openly, so that they can be condemned for what they are; and I therefore claim the right to have my opinions published openly.
Dimitri Oram, thanks for the background.
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Guardian
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 24, 2006 22:24 PM
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Words and Deeds
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 24, 2006 13:04 PM
In former Yugoslavia Croatia's President Franjo Tudjman was a notorious Holocaust revisionist with direct links to real fascists including WWII Ustashe war criminals. He had kind words for the Greater Croatia Ustahshi run Nazi puppet state of WWII (guilty of massive slaughter and persecution of Serbs) and set about trying to make modern Croatia more like it. Despite this and his earlier conviction for nationalist activity he enjoyed plenty of support from European countries and the US and succeeded in the "ethnic cleansing" of the Serb population from Krajina with US support. He was often referred to as a democrat. Izetbegovic's Bosniak forces included a unit directly modelled on a Muslim SS unit during WWII (The Handzar division). Despite this, his membership in WWII in a pro-Nazi group and his connections to foreign Mujahadeen forces (and even the dread Bin laden) he was continually hailed as a proponent of "multiethnic Bosnia" and and received lots of Western support. The KLA whic was partly led by "the heirs of those who fought in World War II fascist militias and the Skandenberg volunteer division raised by the Nazis"(Chris Hedges) was hailed by the West as a "liberational" movement and enjoyed lots of Western support including the 1999 NATO bombing. Meanwhile, for the most part Western Europe demonized the Serbs just as the Nazis had demonized the Serbs earlier. I think these ACTIONS tell us a lot more about where European Countries really stand in regards to the fight against Holocaust Revisionism than their laws against hate speech and Austria's heroic jailing of a relatively powerless old man, (albeit one with loathesome views), for a speech he made more than a decade ago.
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More Free Speech
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 24, 2006 06:57 AM
Cyrano, to continue off topic, if you allow official censorship of history through law you open up all kinds of repressive possibilities.
On the subject of Nazi Germany, Hitler, to have built Germany up in the 1930s would have had to have some serious level of diplomatic support from the powerful Western political elites of the US and UK. Banks and venture capitalists would have had to have at least tacit signals to invest in Nazi Germany. This is the very unofficial history - as well as that of the the holocaust-denying cretins - that Austrian law concerning the holocaust threatens.
Further, and personally, the UK Guardian, yesterday, on a day when Iraq is threatening to errupt in all-out civil war due to the illegal, racist and neo-colonial invasion by the US/UK axis etc., put up a blog concerning the Lockerbie tragedy, but nothing on Iraq. This is in line with the general Guardian policy of 'critical' support for New Labour. This is best characterised by Polly Toynbee, who urged the UK electorate to vote New Labour, its domestic policy, and she would supply nose-pegs for its Foreign Policy. Apparently in excess of 100,000 deaths, untold injury, torture, rape and suffering due to the West's invasion can be made acceptable by pinching our noses.
When I suggested on this Lockerbie blog that the Guardian policy of selection/exclusion, strategic filtering of issues, is racist, neo-colonial and in line with elite coporate interests, my comment was cut, but another coment calling me a racist was allowed to stand.
If you search for the Guardian's Thursday blog on the Lockerbie tragedy you will see what I mean:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/
Why would you support the idealogical spring-cleaning of liberal-capitalist bourgeois democracy's rotten house through censorship. Put their feather duster down.
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sad part of reality..
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 21, 2006 11:55 AM
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Free Speech
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 21, 2006 10:11 AM
Cyrano, it's a bit off topic, but here's a BBC piece on the British right-wing holocaust denier Irving and the Jewish-American academic Lipstadt.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4578534.stm
Lipstadt, unfortunately muddies the water by suggesting Irving should be released from prison (a) so he does not become a martyr, and (b) in the interests of free speech. A British academic on UK tv last night didn't even mention freedom of speech (while rightly condeming Irving's appalling position).
Because of its modern history, Austria has made reducing the realities of the holocaust an imprisonable offence. This is clearly wrong. I am sure that Austria, like the UK, has laws it can use if people are using holocaust denial to incite hatred and violence against a minority. It does not have to restrict free speech in this heavy-handed, repressive way.
The problem with agreeing with the Austrian model, relevant to this blog, is that if one official history of what happened in the former Yugoslavia is eneshrined in law, then relevant challenges to that history are repressed. That is surely what is at the crux of freedom of speech.
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Holocaust deniers..
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 20, 2006 23:34 PM
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Holaucaust denier
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 20, 2006 15:09 PM
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Skilled question
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 20, 2006 14:56 PM
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Look who funds the RDC
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 17, 2006 14:10 PM
The Research and Documentation Center is anything but impartial. He who pays the piper calls the tune, isn't that what they say? Check out the sposors list here:
http://www.idc.org.ba/aboutus/sponsosrlist.html
Soros, the US Embassy, the Balkan Trust for Democracy and so on. Very revealing particularly combined with Tokaca's interview in Bosnian Institute News & Analysis. My own thought is that on the one hand certain parties in the elite are trying to put forth something that will appear more convincing and bear a closer relation to the truth but on the other they need to largely maintain the tale of genocide, Serbian aggression etc. Above all it's imperative that the true role of the Great Powers in destroying Yugoslavia and pitting groups against each other is obscured.
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The great tradition
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 17, 2006 09:46 AM
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surprised
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 16, 2006 12:42 PM
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surprised
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 16, 2006 12:40 PM
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genocide decriers
By Kissenger, Clark at Feb 16, 2006 06:58 AM
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