One of the few areas where I disagree with Chomsky is his notion that electoral politics provides no real choice, therefore, voting doesn’t matter. It does. What is an easier, more meaningful way of protesting than protesting at the polls? Vote religiously for 3rd party, independent or write-in. Send a message to the elites and to your fellow citizens that you aren’t going to go along with business-as-usual anymore. Of course, the elites will resist any meaningful democracy, however, unless citizens are willing to take this easy, yet essential first step, things are unlikely to change. Voting for the Republicans or Democrats is supporting the system. Not voting is accepting the system. Voting for 3rd party, independent or write-in is opposing the system. The choice is clear.
he has said a ton of times that elections do matter, since the trajectory of the country under Dems vs GOP is distinctly different. In swing states therefore, if you vote for a 3rd party instead of a Dem, you are handing the seat to the GOP on a plate, and thus contributing to putting the country on the bad trajectory.
Yes, he has said “a ton of times” that he rarely votes (conclusion?). Exceptions? Yes, when one of the candidates is so odious that he puts on his “anybody but” shoes and moseys down to the polling booth (absentee ballot?) and votes for the “good cop.” Occasionally he votes for the Republican (trajectory?) Voting for third party, etc is okay as long as it doesn’t result in the “bad cop” getting elected. In short, he usually acquiesces to business as usual, occasionally voting in support of a kinder, gentler business as usual. Now, if you vote for the “good cop” because he is slightly better than the “bad cop” then the people behind “the cops” will have the “bad cop” continually drifting to the right, dragging the “good cop” with him, confident that the “good cop” will always have your support because he never is quite as bad as the “bad cop.” This is exactly what has happened and why there has been a shift to the right.
Hey, I respect and admire Noam Chomsky. I think “Year 501: The Conquest Continues” should be required reading. But remember, Noam is a researcher not a guru. We need to take the information that Noam and others provide and reach our own conclusions. Regarding Noam’s position on voting, I beg to differ.
In a true democratic system that would hold water. But this is not a true democratic system. I would recommend Thomas Ferguson's Investment Theory of Politics as a starter. Voting can not compete with the money driven political system. It's designed that way. Voting is an illusion.
I Beg to Differ
By Keller, Keith at Apr 26, 2011 01:42 AM
One of the few areas where I disagree with Chomsky is his notion that electoral politics provides no real choice, therefore, voting doesn’t matter. It does. What is an easier, more meaningful way of protesting than protesting at the polls? Vote religiously for 3rd party, independent or write-in. Send a message to the elites and to your fellow citizens that you aren’t going to go along with business-as-usual anymore. Of course, the elites will resist any meaningful democracy, however, unless citizens are willing to take this easy, yet essential first step, things are unlikely to change. Voting for the Republicans or Democrats is supporting the system. Not voting is accepting the system. Voting for 3rd party, independent or write-in is opposing the system. The choice is clear.
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Re: I Beg to Differ
By d, M at Apr 26, 2011 13:44 PM
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Re: Re: I Beg to Differ
By Keller, Keith at Apr 26, 2011 16:35 PM
Yes, he has said “a ton of times” that he rarely votes (conclusion?). Exceptions? Yes, when one of the candidates is so odious that he puts on his “anybody but” shoes and moseys down to the polling booth (absentee ballot?) and votes for the “good cop.” Occasionally he votes for the Republican (trajectory?) Voting for third party, etc is okay as long as it doesn’t result in the “bad cop” getting elected. In short, he usually acquiesces to business as usual, occasionally voting in support of a kinder, gentler business as usual. Now, if you vote for the “good cop” because he is slightly better than the “bad cop” then the people behind “the cops” will have the “bad cop” continually drifting to the right, dragging the “good cop” with him, confident that the “good cop” will always have your support because he never is quite as bad as the “bad cop.” This is exactly what has happened and why there has been a shift to the right.
Hey, I respect and admire Noam Chomsky. I think “Year 501: The Conquest Continues” should be required reading. But remember, Noam is a researcher not a guru. We need to take the information that Noam and others provide and reach our own conclusions. Regarding Noam’s position on voting, I beg to differ.
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Re: I Beg to Differ
By Bartlett, Michael at May 06, 2011 22:06 PM
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