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"The Same Opportunities as a Kid from the United States"

By Paul Street at Sep 20, 2006


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The latest issue of The New Yorker contains an article by David Remnick on Bill Clinton's career as an ex-president. On page 49 of this essay,  Remnick reproduces part of a dialogue he overheard earlier this summer between Clinton and philanthropist billionaire Bill Gates in Cape Town, South Africa.

Clinton had just flown in from the World Cup Finals on an MD-87 jet ("complete with leather furniture and a stateroom")provided to him by a Vancouver-based mining financier named Frank Giustra. He was joining Gates in a Gates Foundation effort to reduce the scourge of AIDS in Africa.

 "On the health side, we can expect unbelieveable progress," Gates said of the next twenty-five years in Africa. "Given that time frame, we should expect a pretty incredible continent where a kid born here can expect the same opportuities as a kid from the United States can."

"Well, I hope that's right," Clinton said

- Remnick, "The Wanderer," New Yorker (Sepember 18, 2006), p. 49.

I support all serious and substantive efforts to prevent and reduce AIDS in Africa and everywhere else. 

Still, at the risk of seeming rude, I have a question for the former president and the World's Richest Man:

"Same opportunities as" which "kids from the United States?"

 * The mainly white silver-spoon ones who live who live in the top 1 percent that owns half the nation's wealth or... the more than one million black kids who live at less than half the U.S. federal government's notoriously inadequate poverty level?

* The ones who can act up and out in every way imagineable and still count on being wealthy for the rest of their lives or... the ones whose "mistakes" and technical transgressions will doom them to repeated incarcerations and the crippling lifetime mark of a criminal record?

* The ones who live in communities with widely available private and public resources - bookstores, libraries, expensive athletic facilities, sit-down restaurants, full-service grocery stores and much more - or the ones who live in hollowed-out ghettoes where currency exchanges and corner liquor/grocery stores outnumber banks, parks, doctors' and dentists' offices and where police cameras and parole agents are more prevalent than  legitimate jobs?

* The ones who live (for example) in the northern Chicago suburb of Lake Forest, where median household income (2000 Census) is $136,142, where 60 percent of the adults work in the Census Bureau's most elevated employment classification ("management, the professions, or related occupations"), where less than 2 percent of the children live in poverty, and where public school children are funded at more than twenty thousand dollars per year or.......

*... the ones (for a different sort of example) in the 90-pecent black southern Chicago suburb of Harvey, where median household income is less than $32,000, where 28 percent of the children are officially poor, where just a fifth of the adults are employed in the elevated job category and where children are priced at roughly seven thouand dollars per year (just more than ONE THIRD of the comparable per-student funding number in Lake Forest) under the state's privilege-preserving method of distributing scarce school dollars?

As Jonathan Kozol said of New York area school and living disparities in his 1999 book Ordinary Resurrections, "these are extraordinary inequalities within a metropolitan community that still lays claim to certain vestiges of the humantiarian ideals associated with the age of civil rights and the unforgotten dreams of Dr. Martin Luther King."   

I could go on and on...the empirical presentation of internal U.S. disparities is long and depressing, as one would expect in the industrialized world's most unequal and wealth-top-heavy state by far. 

The examples I give above are just small parts of the vast mountain of heavily racialized social disparity that lives on and deepens beneath the sickening national-narcissist celebration of supposed American superiority that is so commonplace in U.S. discourse.  Our ideologists congratulate the U.S. on shedding its racist and plutocratic pasts while black household net worth falls to 7 cents on the white net worth dollar, while the poverty rate goes up for five years in a row (something that has never happened in the history of the poverty rate) and as the top 20 percent of income earners now receives more than half of all national income for the first time since national income statistics have been tabulated.  

As Frederick Douglass told white America in 1852, "your celebration is a sham." And as King said 115 years later, the "greatest purveyor of violence in the world" --- the U.S. ---- was fighting a "war for so-called freedom" in Vietnam "when it does not even have its own house in order."

I am not some kind of a leftist isolationist or "America Firster."  The United States has done an enormous amount of harm around the world and would have a moral obligation to meaningfully assist global humanity even if it had never caused injury outside its borders. 

Still, the two Bills (Clinton and Gates) and other rich and powerful Americans who are eager to repair "broken societies" and correct "failed states" would do well to take a long and honest look in the imperial homeland mirror, where the elite's global and military obsessions both fuel and reflect the persistence of savage inequalities and perverted national priorities that mock the nation's professed democratic and egalitarian goals. 

The Empire also kills at home.  Its homeland benefits flow disproportionately to the privileged few but its homeland costs are generalized across society and fall with special burdern on the most truly disadvantaged, who are expected to serve in the imperial armies and to silently suffer the most from the diversion of public dollars to something our policymakers like to call "defense" and is more honestly described by Pentagon insiders as "forward global force projection" - a project that happens to boost the stock values and feed CEO coffers at such lovely public service entities as Boeing and Raytheon. 

 I will talk in greater detail about these and related matters in a talk titled "The Repair of Broken Societies Begins At Home" in Champaign, Illinois next Tuesday at 7 PM at the Community Church of Christ.

  

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why is "opportunities" such a big deal?

By Kissenger, Clark at Oct 12, 2006 11:55 AM

"Opportunities" to do what? Opportunity to be a CEO, to be shareholder, to be a professional i.e. to be a new Eichmann in the system (<--- yes, I said it).

Talking about opportunities within that context is like going back to 1820s and saying that Slavery wouldn't be so bad if everybody had an equal chance to be either master or slave. A similar context that reveals the faulty paradigm would be to look at the Soviet Union. It had arguarably more 'opportunities' that the U.S. Just do well in school, and play the role and *anyone* could reach the top of society. But that still doesn't obscure the fact that the schools were brainwashing kids and the roles (e.g KGB officer) are inhumane. 

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better opportunity in venezuela than afrika

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 24, 2006 23:42 PM

paul Ive just read one of cahvez interview at the UN, he seem to have been really successful reversing poverty in venezuela I think that kids in Venezuela will have better opportunities than in Afrika and Bill Gates is not there.. Lets be optimistic,, don't you think so ?

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this above may have seem off topic

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 23, 2006 01:40 AM

but it seem that the two 'rogue" presidents have a clue or two of what is causing poverty and inequalities..

Link to video of Pres. Ahmadinejad's press conference at the UN

Link to Pres. Chavez's press conference:

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Theatrics

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 23, 2006 01:32 AM

paul i recall your article a year ago..i say its informative. hey, jdcasten, I just got fell on amandine the bad speech to the UN, wow this time the president of iran has improved in skills and seem wiser ( beats Bush hands down)

it leaves only Hugo Chavez, for us with the theatrics..or the entertainment this time Hugo is in Harlem and he traded bibles..

I think the reasons why these speech speak louds is because of Bush policies on tortures and secret prisons, I think that more and more people are going to awaken to the displayed barbarism.

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Speaking of Bill Clinton...

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 22, 2006 16:09 PM

But then Clinton got into the elite educational institutions and basically soaked up the world view of the privileged. Here's a piece I did about a year ago under the title Bill Clinton was no Champion of the Poor - it was inspired by some snotty comments wild Willy made about Bush after Katrina.

In my experience and observation, people who've actually claimed from near or at the bottom into the middle or upper class --- it happens, not that often, but sure, it happens ---  often have some of the strongest tednencies toward victim-blaming hatred of the poor.  They look at their own experience and say "Hey, I made it out why can't they?"  For some really bitter and dead-on reflections on Clinton's ironic popularity with many U.S. blacks, see an interesting book by the black Atlanta activist and author Elain Browne - The Condemnation of Little B.

Which reminds me --- in the New Yorker article I quoted for this blog, Clinton is quoted saying...no joke..."I know how black folks think." As if African-Americans are all of one mind.   Someone could do an essay just on the arrogant absurdity of that statement.  Which "black folks," Mr. ex-president?  

Excellent points, "Anonymous (not verified)."

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Hello my friend Cyrano

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 22, 2006 16:02 PM

So So Trus! People with money are GENIUSES!!! Or maybe not?...;-)

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Mabey :), Never been to

By Anonymous, Anonymous at Sep 22, 2006 16:01 PM

Mabey :), Never been to Mozambique.

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What pisses me off about people like the Bills

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 22, 2006 16:00 PM

Is that the implication is that they have all the money, they have all the brains and knowhow, and the targets of their "help" have nothing - no brains, no solutions, no knowledge of the world. In fact, often the opposite is more true. People close to the problem, if given the opportunity, come up with solutions at far less cost.

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I Like Theatrics

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 22, 2006 15:55 PM

Theatrics draw attention to important issues that otherwise would be smothered by the corporate press.

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Hmmm

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 22, 2006 15:54 PM

Maybe rich in Mozambique sounds pretty good to me?...;-)

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BTW

By Anonymous, Anonymous at Sep 22, 2006 15:33 PM

I did grow up poor in Harvey, Unlike the guilt ridden bleeding hearts in Evanston or the Gold Coast. 

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Technical transgression?

By Anonymous, Anonymous at Sep 22, 2006 15:30 PM

Sorry but walking into a liquor store on 75th and Paulina and robbing it a gunpoint or killing a four year old kid over some bullshit turf war hardly constitutes a “technical transgression” Paul. And all things being equal, I would rather grow up poor in Harvey than rich in Mozambique.

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The tweo misguided Bills

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 22, 2006 13:44 PM

its amazing how much money can turn people into genius.. I don't disagree money should be channelled into afrika, however, considering all the damages the US has caused Palestinians with their sponsorship of state-terror; some of Gates's money should be chanelled toward helping palestinians regaining their land, if it is about charity then let it be about charity..lets not forget lebanon I would go as far as telling Gates-Clinton- to forward some money to Hizbollah or Hamas, but consider the free ride zionist get while sending lebanon and palestinian to ther STONE AGE.. I say their duty should be to help palestinians first..

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May the force be with us all

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 22, 2006 11:00 AM

Anonymous, mr street did not twist Bill Gates engagement, he just pointed out that gates sounded a bit optimistic. Also the Bills over there are supposed to do charity, it is not supposed to be a PR exercise.. I do agree however that once owning billions , it must be difficult to part from it. America is not the two Bills and we know for well that americas economy is driven by war.. nobody, here (I guess) live under socialism, we all live in a capitalist system where it is almost unfeasible to work outside the system. A person have to work and be productive in order to be able to feed their own kids. So you do have to save money to buy a house and need convenient transportation to go to work. If you live in a capitalist world, its very difficult not to think about money because people like bill gates are somewhat programmed to think about money. We are also used to luxury and industrialization, Take cars by examples- it- pollutes- apart from it, driving car is a cool experience, its fun. The day we'll be ordered not to drive our cars will be devastating for a lots of people. if someone come to a non-pollutant solution, I am very much sure this person will be praised. One day our standard of living may be different as our economic system may be changed to alternatives to capitalism and where people work together to a system where the wealth is distributed more equally between people. I undersdtand that for some , how gates gained his fortune may seem controversial, but i think he believe that he was contributing to the computing world in general, who knows ? it is obvious that the economic system that made so many poors also made gates rich. Gates stepped on many developers feet and whom had better ideas about computing than he had, the number of virus affecting his OS are proportionate are a good indicative of some hatre. one aspect of his system and softwares is that it is proprietary, people aware that there are free alternatives like linux, knows its better to install linux.. jdcasten, I recall a bit the letter, Amandine the bad should not waste his time writing letters, he should just tell Bush to go the hell. Chavez knows better.. he adresses others people than a president that look for overtrowing the democracy of his country.

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Mr Street. The

By Anonymous, Anonymous at Sep 22, 2006 05:40 AM

Mr Street.

The Gates-foundation might "ignore steep disparities in the imperial nation" , while USA does not have its house in order.

I bet kids, both in China and Afrika would be happy with the cheaper ( underfunded ), version of US schoolstandard.

If aid to Africa stings your eye thats your problem. If not I am sure you could have found a better example than that of these bills. Here you twist Gates
african engagement to an inability to engage elsewere ( read; USA ). By this
twisted logic, your knowledge of history becomes your lack of knowledge about engineering.

"Unintentional support by way of feeble thinking"

This might be a nice insult, but as argument it is feeble. And as for feeble arguments see the above Streetish drivel.

Then; on a happier note there is scepticism. Go chew gum Chewbacca ! The Sith surely fears your next jedi-move. If the spirit of resistance be this ethereal. Then may the force be with us all !

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Fortune's Favorites

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 22, 2006 01:15 AM

Paul's piece reminded me of a song too; Ironic Randy Newman's “Sail Away”: In America you'll get food to eat Won't have to run through the jungle And scuff up your feet You'll just sing about Jesus and drink wine all day It's great to be an American Ain't no lions or tigers – ain't no mamba snake Just the sweet watermelon and the buckwheat cake Everybody is as happy as a man can be Climb aboard, little wog-sail away with me Sail away – sail away We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay Sail away – sail away We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay In America every man is free To take care of his home and his family You'll be as happy as a monkey in a monkey tree You're all gonna be an American Sail away – sail away We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay Sail away – sail away We will cross the mighty ocean into Charleston Bay - Paul was right to point out my mis-defence of Bill Clinton. I think the point I should have made was the B.C. should have been more aware of American poverty due to his own family's—but maybe his own “success” may have distorted his judgment a bit. Just about everyone in power in America is a “success” story, and hence their view of “opportunity” is bound to be a little distorted. (Dick Cheney, I think, came from humble origins too, and may be a case for my point). - I think Keir's proctologists remark was a little harsh. I see the point that the “Bills” perpetuate capitalism as Keir notes at his blog (but not pure-capitalism!) and Might be too indoctrinated in a certain world view to seriously consider alternatives (as my above “successful people love the opportunity that lead to their success” point made)—but their priorities for the use of their "power", at that level, seem pretty legitimate—they and people like Jeffrey Sachs & Bono actually DO a lot to help. Would it make more sense for these “heavy-hitters” to focus all their power on the Chicago area? I don't think that was Paul's point (and probably not Keir's either)—I think Paul's point was touching on the notion of “Imperial Hubris” that the US has got it so right, that they have the right to be righteous. - I think that the Chavez theatrics that overshadowed some of his legitimate points was a little less diplomatic than the letter that Ahmadinejad wrote Bush awhile ago. Maybe Cyrano was familiar with it too? Ahmadinejad makes some good points as well, although when he accuses Bush of not being very Christian, I think the same could be applied to himself! (the mote and beam filled eyes—which hypocrisy I think is connected to Paul's point; although “hypocrisy,” like “irony,” is a word that often gets stretched in its meaning). - J.D. Eugene

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re Bill C

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 21, 2006 20:59 PM

This is not off topic Keir, the US is trying to recover from a tarnished image with the two Bills.. I don't know , I suggest that each time you will hear president Chaavez championing for the poor, you will see one of the two Bills playing the bad cops.. I think the US is jaleous of Chavez.. I hope Venezuela gain a seat at the UN..

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f Bill C.

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 21, 2006 18:15 PM

A bit off topic, anyone see this today about good cop Bill C.? Keir The Hague

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the two Bills

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 21, 2006 17:10 PM

Its seem that one Bill is the extention of the other, somehow it fits the US obligarchy of one bad cop to the bad cop.. I think the US is in need to polish its image abroad by extending the good cop illusion.. Most of the world poverty is caused by US imposed war: pay attention to musharraf being threatened to have his country pushed back to the STONE AGE! Is stone age rendition is what is happening to Afgahnistan and Iraq ? isnt this what happened to vietnam? http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060921/ts_nm/pakistan_usa_musharraf_dc

 

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This is what happens with under-funded schools...

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 21, 2006 15:14 PM

"Anonymous (not verified)" thinks it corrects me to say that "Gates' statement was a generalization."

It does not. The premise of this piece is precisely that Gates' statement is a generalization that ignores steep disparities in an imperial nation whose elite routinely prattles about its purported mission and capacity to fix the rest of the world even while the glorified nation doesn't even have its own house in order.

 "Anonymous (not verfied)'s" strange commentary offers unintentionally supporting verification of my argument by displaying some of the feeble thinking that inadequate school systems do so much to produce.

On a happier note, I agree with JDCasten that Clinton may have been expressing some welcome skepticism but note that his skepticism was about whether Africa could be brought to non-disaggregated U.S. levels and not about Gates' failure to note class/race distinctions within the U.S.  

 

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Dollar Bills

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 21, 2006 15:00 PM

It'll buy a war It will save a land It pollutes this air In the name of wealth It'll buy you life But not true life The kind of life Where the soul is hard My name is dollar bill Funky dollar bill U.S. dollar bill ---'Funky Dollar Bill' off Free Your Mind...And Your Ass Will Follow, Funkadelic, 1971 An important and well made point, Paul. Those in South Africa (or elsewhere) with access to news and images of Hurricane Katrina---as the most spectacular example of the disparity you are talking about---would know which America the two dollar Bills were and were not referring to. I was in a very depressed area of South Africa last summer at the time of the London bombings. I walked out of the internet cafe where I had read the news and the first thing I heard on the crowded, dusty street was "It's because of the Americans." Only people with their heads as far up their own asses as Clinton and Gates believe in their own shit. My two cents on Bill Gates versus AIDS. Keir The Hague

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Possibly to defend Bill

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 21, 2006 07:38 AM

Possibly to defend Bill Clinton's part of the quote above, his “hope” expresses a modicum of “doubt” (I believe he was raised in a single parent home on welfare, like myself (I also lived in a trailer at one time Cyrano)). Of course he was a white and also intellectually bright man, and that gave him advantages that others do not have. I know Paul is largely concerned about poor black neighborhoods—but as far as “affirmative action” is concerned, might this be extended to chronically (generation after generation) poor white kids and neighborhoods as well?

I positively agree Clinton is smart, but existed public school and social infrastructures to recuperate him from the welfare system. I also suggest that you also used the public system to get away from poverty.

In canada, the public infrastructure has been eroding since the reformists are pushing their agenda,its difficult even to have door replaced. every years schools has to raise funds to help balance budjets; I suggest canada followed the US..

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Gloom and focus

By Anonymous, Anonymous at Sep 21, 2006 05:47 AM

I think Gates statement was a generalisation Mr Street. To bad kids in USA allso suffer, but you seem to come across with a moot point, if one at all.

Positive reinforcement can allso work. Though your "Goth"-gloom is a good inventive "to go on and on" as you put.

China invests heavily in Africa nowadays. That is probably part of Gates analysis. Kids in rural China lack the opportunities of their urban cousins, but that is totally beside the point.

You seem to be chewing gum, and smoking cigarettes , while walking in circles. 

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Education & Intellectual vs. Physical Labor

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 20, 2006 23:52 PM

Paul Quotes: "On the health side, we can expect unbelieveable progress," Gates said of the next twenty-five years in Africa. "Given that time frame, we should expect a pretty incredible continent where a kid born here can expect the same opportuities as a kid from the United States can." "Well, I hope that's right," Clinton said. - These statements can be read pretty cynically against their intent, as in “the US will be going down while Africa goes up.” I totally agree with Paul's concern with unequal education funding practices, like using local property taxes to fund local schools, where wealthier neighborhoods automatically have better schools. There may be scholarships for higher education (some private ivy league schools seem to pride themselves that anyone who can get in will be able to afford it due to generous scholarships)—but this doesn't matter much if you can't get to that level of education through public schools in the first place. (BTW, to their credit, the Gate's US charity, I think, is geared towards education). Although very much for perpetual education, I think there has been an assumption that Americans might take on more “intellectual” jobs, while developing nations would do more physical labor intensive work. I think that's a problem. I also think there may not be enough “mind-intensive” jobs to go all around; but also there is a wide-spread bias that “mind-intensive” jobs are superior to physical labor. Some people might be more happy to work with their hands than their noodle—so I think many people need to see the dignity in all sorts of work—empowerment can be a matter of social attitudes as well (although I've never liked Soviet Realism art- it seems a little contrived). Many people see physical leisure as attractive mental pastimes, so why not the same equal attitudes toward intellectual and physical labor? I think just as many people despise a math problem as despise digging ditches (I've actually enjoyed both, at times). “A mind is a terrible thing to waste” though, and even if people do end up in physical or intellectual labor, everyone should have access to education, and at least be educated enough to know how education can help them—so they can evaluate those “equal opportunities.” Possibly to defend Bill Clinton's part of the quote above, his “hope” expresses a modicum of “doubt” (I believe he was raised in a single parent home on welfare, like myself (I also lived in a trailer at one time Cyrano)). Of course he was a white and also intellectually bright man, and that gave him advantages that others do not have. I know Paul is largely concerned about poor black neighborhoods—but as far as “affirmative action” is concerned, might this be extended to chronically (generation after generation) poor white kids and neighborhoods as well? Are the solutions to domestic poverty the same as those currently aimed at global poverty: e.g. Education, Economic Infrastructure Investments, & Providing Basic Health Care? And how to help empower depressed areas from within, and not just with “benevolent external interventions”: non-hegemonic activist benevolence? As I've noted before on other ZNet blogs—I think battleships and yachts are complete wastes of resources. Reducing the US military is as much common sense for the radical left as it is for the libertarian right. IMO, there's an insecurity in “forcing” values on another rather than simply offering to share what “works” for you (other than the fundamental universal human rights that imply universal consent—but even this can sometimes become the excuse for some other pretext).

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re : "The Same Opportunities as a Kid from the United States"

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 20, 2006 21:28 PM

hey, Hi and hello Victor! This article cracks me up: Woah given that Afrikan themselves are almost subject to extinction from aids and malaria epidemics, the two Bills must be alluding to the reminders of the kids of Afrika.. I swear, i saw line of TRAILER PARKS, when I picture the word equal opportunity.. ( given the level of intelligence of the two Bills, I wonder if they truly believe the statement they made or is it just being highly optimistic..)

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The Middle Class is At Risk as Well

By Kissenger, Clark at Sep 20, 2006 17:56 PM

Paul. So true. The elite of this country are different than you and I. They have a different set of values and a different view of life in the USA and in the broader world. They fail to recognise that the country they profess to love is rapidly becoming a failed society, due in large part to their own excesses and greed. The chasm between rich and poor continues to widen. The middle class is shrinking (a recent MSNBC article noted that it has shrunk by approximately 24%, 14% of which has gravitated to the status of poor), and though the upper class is growing in numbers, it is not growing at near the rate of the poorer class. The environment is going south, personal debt is at an all-time high, and the USA has become the world's largest debtor bringing the country close to an economic catastrophy. But these facts somehow escape these folks. They live in a dream world, a fantasy taught from youth that America is great and good and kind, a gentle giant envied and picked on by the world. So yes, just which America are they talking about? Theirs? Or ours? Dreamland? Or the Nightmare on Elm Street? If they were to use their money to help correct America's political and economic structural deficiencies, then I would be truly impressed. But I doubt I shall ever see that day.

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