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The Thermopylae Psyop

By Justin Podur at Mar 28, 2007


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First, I admit I loved the movie. Compelling characters, spectacular visuals, impressive choreography, good dialogue - including lots from the historical record. But it's the kind of movie where the better the movie, the worse it is. But this isn't a review of the movie 300. It's not a take on its historical inaccuracies, which was beautifully done by a classics professor at the University of Toronto - with a very clever title ("Sparta? No. This is madness") Ephraim Lytle notes the following, worth reproducing in detail:
History is altered all the time. What matters is how and why. Thus I see no reason to quibble over the absence in 300 of breastplates or modest thigh-length tunics. I can see the graphic necessity of sculpted stomachs and three hundred Spartan-sized packages bulging in spandex thongs. On the other hand, the ways in which 300 selectively idealizes Spartan society are problematic, even disturbing... (snip) And had Leonidas undergone the agoge, he would have come of age not by slaying a wolf, but by murdering unarmed helots in a rite known as the Crypteia. These helots were the Greeks indigenous to Lakonia and Messenia, reduced to slavery by the tiny fraction of the population enjoying Spartan "freedom." By living off estates worked by helots, the Spartans could afford to be professional soldiers, although really they had no choice: securing a brutal apartheid state is a full-time job, to which end the Ephors were required to ritually declare war on the helots... (snip) 300's Persians are ahistorical monsters and freaks. Xerxes is eight feet tall, clad chiefly in body piercings and garishly made up, but not disfigured. No need – it is strongly implied Xerxes is homosexual which, in the moral universe of 300, qualifies him for special freakhood. This is ironic given that pederasty was an obligatory part of a Spartan's education. This was a frequent target of Athenian comedy, wherein the verb "to Spartanize" meant "to bugger." In 300, Greek pederasty is, naturally, Athenian. This touches on 300's most noteworthy abuse of history: the Persians are turned into monsters, but the non-Spartan Greeks are simply all too human. According to Herodotus, Leonidas led an army of perhaps 7,000 Greeks. These Greeks took turns rotating to the front of the phalanx stationed at Thermoplyae where, fighting in disciplined hoplite fashion, they held the narrow pass for two days. All told, some 4,000 Greeks perished there. In 300 the fighting is not in the hoplite fashion, and the Spartans do all of it, except for a brief interlude in which Leonidas allows a handful of untrained Greeks to taste the action, and they make a hash of it. When it becomes apparent they are surrounded, this contingent flees. In Herodotus' time there were various accounts of what transpired, but we know 700 hoplites from Thespiae remained, fighting beside the Spartans, they, too, dying to the last man. No mention is made in 300 of the fact that at the same time a vastly outnumbered fleet led by Athenians was holding off the Persians in the straits adjacent to Thermopylae, or that Athenians would soon save all of Greece by destroying the Persian fleet at Salamis. This would wreck 300's vision, in which Greek ideals are selectively embodied in their only worthy champions, the Spartans.
Now I know what you're going to say. It's just a movie, get over it. But Frank Miller, who wrote the 300 comic, and the filmmakers, who rendered it faithfully, didn't make 300 the story of the heroes of Gondor fighting the orcs of Mordor. They used 'Spartans' and 'Persians' - they used history, where they chose to, and they departed from history where they chose to, and if you want to use history then you had better be prepared to answer for historical inaccuracy. If it were a monster movie or fantasy, it would have been good. Although even then, the racial imagery (handsome white heroes killing huge numbers of depraved and monstrous black villains) would have gotten obnoxious at times, as it did in the Lord of the Rings films. But the fantasy author, Guy Kay, who uses history in his work but does change the names so that he doesn't have to be constrained by the history, wrote about this problem more effectively than me, in his criticism of the Mel Gibson movie about the American Revolution, the Patriot. In that movie, Gibson has an English military person round up Americans and burn them in a church - an atrocity committed by the Nazis (and probably - though Kay doesn't talk about it - by any number of British and American and Spanish colonists in the Americas against indigenous people and african slaves) but not committed by the English against the American colonists. Kay describes a press conference at which Gibson was confronted with the invention of this atrocity for the film, also worth reproducing at length I think:
Mel Gibson offered a blunter and more effective rejoinder. 'Lighten up.' he essentially told the assembled and outraged scribes, 'It's just a movie.' Sounds reasonable. Why should we expect accuracy from Hollywood? From any segment of pop culture? Since when are the movies or television or romance thrillers held to any standards of truth? Well, it seems to me a good question, not a rhetorical one. Why are they not held to such standards? Why are these frothy little summer entertainments ($100 million dollars worth) deemed immune, as Gibson suggests they should be, to allegations that they are lies? Insidious ones. Lies that erase and obliterate for huge numbers of people any vaguely accurate notion of events, or that diminish the terrible reality of a 20th century atrocity by making it seem to audiences that it was the sort of thing that also happened in an entirely different kind of war... (snip) I am deeply aware that 'truth' in history (or, indeed, in contemporary events) is elusive. That history is written by the winners, that past events may be seen in widely differing lights. That appalling things have been done over the centuries, by Huns, Vikings, Mongols, Conquistadors, warriors in so many holy wars ... That we cannot always know what is really the truth. We can know, however, what is a lie. The English did not perform a Gestapo church burning of innocents two hundred years ago... No such action was ever taken. Nothing even close to it occurred. Nor, it seems to me, should we so mildly accept the 'just a movie' retort. The implied premise of this is: everyone knows it isn't true, it is just for fun. The film industry seems to want it both ways. On the one hand they claim (with cause) to exert a hugely potent influence on the mores and thinking of our culture. On the other, whenever they are taxed with abusing that role, they retreat into 'it's just a movie.' Why should popular entertainment be granted free rein to distort and mangle? Have we so completely accepted that our society will play fast-and-loose with such things? Is it our indifference that creates the climate for this? If so, might it not be time to reconsider such indifference?
I really like Kay - he's one of my favourite novelists - he's also thoroughly eurocentric. To find an atrocity comparable to what's depicted in the film, he doesn't look at what the Americans were doing to Indians all around in that same time period, but at what the Nazis did to the French. But his points and his questions are valid, important, and relevant to 300. History is used to make points about the present. The target audience for 300 is young north american males - the cannon fodder of the war on terror. This movie has numerous messages, some of them subtle, some of them not subtle. The subtle ones relate to the racial and sexual imagery. Heroism is manly and straight. Cowardice is effeminate and gay, and historical accuracy be damned if it conflicts (All the evidence suggests Xerxes was a bearded, average height, fairly austere dressing emperor, not a naked giant who wore nothing but gold jewelry and wanted to give Leonidas a massage). Heroism is white, cowardice is brown and black, and historical accuracy be damned (I don't see any reason the Spartans would have been lighter-skinnned than the Persians, though I could be missing something. They seem to have chosen Africans to play Persians - or paint white people black - and men and women from the British Isles to play the Greeks). Heroism is about killing large numbers of inferior opponents. The point of life is glory, and a glorious death. Military people can be trusted, but others cannot (and indeed, politicians who argue for peace are probably paid by the other side and will rape your strong and capable but also somehow helpless and vulnerable wife while you are out fighting, though she will prove her strength and honor once again by killing the rapist). The less subtle ones also involve distortions of history. The battle of Thermopylae didn't buy Greece extra time they needed to organize politically for war. Thermopylae is presented as, basically, a psychological operation at which a small number of spartan forces took a symbolic action in order to increase the will to fight among the target of the psyop, the Greek population. In fact it was futile - as Lytle points out, the real battle was won at sea, by other Greek forces, and the final battle was won a year later. And there's a message too - that you have to take a stand, fight and die, no matter whether there is a point to it or not. Or maybe the notion is that it's not for you, young man, to decide what the point is - that will be decided by people who know better. 300 depicts Thermopylae as a psyop, and maybe 300 could be seen that way too. We have the 300 'free' men (okay there were 7000 and they were slavers) fighting for democracy (ahem) a million Persians (okay there were not close to a million and they were no worse slavers than the greeks) - is this also to build the will to fight? Are we the target? Persia is Iran, after all. And if you search 'criticism of 300 Iran', you will get lots of angry Americans writing about how stupid Iranians are for getting so upset - don't they get that it's just a movie? The backlash to the backlash, which I suppose is, these days, as predictable as the original backlash or the precipitating incident (a movie like 300... or some cartoons of the prophet Mohammad, perhaps?) But then again, maybe I should just get over it. It's just a movie, after all.
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By Rehab, Drug at Sep 17, 2007 07:43 AM

applaud Gibson's use of some Maya actors, as well his decision to have the characters speak in a native Maya language, Yukatek, still heard in Mexico. While these are brave and ambitious choices, they also imply that "Apocalypto" is a sincere depiction of Maya society. In fact, the movie is not an accurate portrayal of the Maya at all; rather, it is a reflection of Gibson's own feverish imagination.

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Pseudo fight for freedom...

By Da, Paulo at Jun 09, 2007 23:08 PM

Spartan Warriors are trained from infancy to be nothing but soldiers.

Their whole lives were dedicated to learning the arts of war.

Spartan Live To Fight!! They Do Not Fight To Live!

 

 

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Are you serious?

By Cabello, Svenson at Jun 03, 2007 18:35 PM

Are you being serious or are you kidding?

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Arsham,the movie maker

By Kissenger, Clark at Apr 12, 2007 14:18 PM

Arsham,the movie maker built the spartan ideology speeches likening it to todays neo-cons pseudo fight for freedom.. It used lines like " freedom isn't free. etc.. historically, the spartans were elite fighters as depicted in the movie and most of these warriors were peered with lover- warriors for whom they would fight to the death. The depiction of the persian was rather gruesome.

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Hi, i agree with you 100%!

By Nowbakht, Arsham at Apr 10, 2007 13:08 PM

Hi, i agree with you 100%! Im an iranian (no, im not a muslim! I hate the fact that 'everyone' keep stereotyping us by our islamist goverment...) And when i first heard about this... movie... i got pretty upset. But, then i saw the movie and i got to say that it was just... Ok, lets put it like this, spartans did NOT fight like that! And there were no "immortals" in the persian army. Yeah, Xerxers did not consider him self a god! The persian kings did however call themselves 'kingofkings' (which was partly true beacuse they ruled over many other nations.)

So... At that time (and still today to..) The religion of Persia (Iran) was Zoroastrianism (ok, today there is a big muslim community to and the dictator goveremnt is muslim to.. damn... those arab jihad freaks who attacked us all those hundred years ago.. damn!) Anyhow, a zoroastrian (or any monotheist for that mather) would never and i mean NEVER call them selves for a god! For that would not make sense. Monotheist: An individual who recognize one god and one god only. How could someone who only recignize ONE god then claim themselves to be gods? (Ok, lets make somethings clear here, some "leaders" sometimes declare themselves to be send from god, like khomeini, allthough he didnt said he was sent from there he sure was worshipped from his followers as if he was...) I mean, if someone only believe in one god, how can they then declare themselves as gods? That does'nt make any sense. Xerxes in 300 sees him self as god. Thats crazy. Hes an zoroastrian. Its like if an christian priest would declare themself to be the holder of the Holy Spirit. Yeah... That would sure be madness. Anyhow, i also believe that the Spartan warriors is shown TO strong in the movie, i mean they kill EVERYTHING, like they slaughter Xerxerses troops like animals! Thats crazy... He had fine soldiers! And he did not had piercings lol, i dont even think that they had piercings at that time :P

Ok, one thing i have to admitt tough, the movie was cool! Yes, the spartans was created a little to strong but still, it was quality entertainment. :D 

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Rubbish!

By Kissenger, Clark at Apr 09, 2007 08:34 AM

Thanks Kid, for that. I suppose I am happier to hear of people disliking it than liking it in spite of themselves, which was the case for me.

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Rubbish

By Kid, Disillusioned at Apr 09, 2007 07:45 AM

300 is possibly the single most racist film I've ever seen, pitting universally white heroes against evil, exotic,subhuman enemies, of various shades.That this can be made in the 21st century says a lot.

 

It's also a rubbish film: badly written, badly acted, badly directed and, despite its visual pretentions, an unsatisfying cinematic spectacle.

 

I wonder whether anyone would pay any attention to it where it not for its timely jongoistic undertones. My advice, for those of you who haven't seen it is simple: ignore it. All being well, it'll soon be forgotten.

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By Anonymous, Anonymous at Apr 06, 2007 17:00 PM

I don't know if Gibson will ever make a movie on the inquistion but if there is ever a Movie Inquistion I see it here. The gist of your "best critique" is that Gibsion's depiction of Mayan society was distorted because he showed them to be too innocent and nice. According to the author of the review the Mayans were living in highly sophisticated slave states by the time the Spanish arrived. Since the idea that indigenous people could practice human sacrifice appalls the politically correct crowd here so much I can easily imgaine the howl from the same corner if his depiction were more truthful: how dare Hollywood makes movie about slavery by the Mayans without mentioning black slavery in the deep south and contemporary racism?? The Inquisitor can always find a reason to burn you on the stake.

 

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Point taken. My comments

By Kissenger, Clark at Apr 04, 2007 13:46 PM

Point taken. My comments weren't really relevant to a discussion of Mel's movies.

We don't have to go through any rituals if we don't want to. This isn't really an issue of political correctness, however. I wasn't implying that the recounting of atrocities was obligatory, in this or any such case.

I think my point, if indeed you see it fit to grant me one, was that the notion of human sacrifice is a question of perpective. I meant to suggest that societies all over the world, up to the present day practice human sacrifice of a certain kind.

It's a wanky, academic idea. Good perhaps for inside the brain, not so much for sharing with the world.

Apologies.

 

 

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You gut reaction is right...

By Kissenger, Clark at Mar 31, 2007 20:15 PM

but you got to have your facts straight. Here's the best critique that I've read of Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. I doubt he'll ever do a movie on the Inquisition or if he ever created such a project that it'll have the same distortions in his other works

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By Anonymous, Anonymous at Mar 31, 2007 17:10 PM

Sorry, I don't know if there is a point to your drivels. Cyrano made a comment about a human sacrifice scene in a movie about the Incas and the Aztecs. I told him Mel Gibson didn't make it up as he can check any historical source on it.

I have no idea how the Spanish genocide and Madeline Albright are relevant to the discussion.

Do we have to go through the ritual of recounting European and U.S. barbarism from antiqity all the way down to the Iraq war in all movies that may depict or make references to inhumane practices in non white societies in order to be politically correct?

So if there is a scene in a movie about foot binding in ancient China there would have to be be obligatory scenes about breast enlargement in contemporary America ; a mention of Islamic imperial eunichs in an epic would have to be balanced by the castratos. You get the picture.

 

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A white Georges Bush doing

By Kissenger, Clark at Mar 31, 2007 13:39 PM

A white Georges Bush doing human sacrifice would have been more accurate than a Chavez.. Bless the CHavez of this world and send back the Bushes where he come from : in hell that is..

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Mel Gibson

By Kissenger, Clark at Mar 31, 2007 08:55 AM

>The Incas and Aztecs did practice human sacrifice. It is not a lie

>dreamed up by Mel. Go read a book on history or anthropology.

So did the Spanish. At least, that's what it must have seemed to the Incas and the Aztecs when steel-girded men on fanstastic beasts slaughtered them without provacation.

Pizarro and Cortez reported human sacrifice among the idol-worshipping natives. And so they offered them up to God and Spain, staining the pyramids with far more blood than any priest of Quetzacouatl.

The first and second world wars were not unlike mass human sacrifices (on a scale undreamt of by any indeginous peoples) into the gears of European industrial society - a plea by the nations to the God in the Machine to bestow upon them wealth and supremacy.

In the 1990s, Madeline Albright stated that America had sacrificed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children on the altar of "democracy." In the present day, America and its foes have sacrificed a hundred thousand more.

Surely there can be no ritual more darkly pagan and inhumane than modern war. But historians and anthropologists will scarely ever see it as such.

This is sort of beside point as far Mel Gibson is concerned, but against the weight of the history he attempts to depict, the man and his movies are inconsequential.

 

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Mel Gibson

By Anonymous, Anonymous at Mar 30, 2007 15:05 PM

Yeah, but Chevas does have native ancestry. So what is so surprising that he looks like the Incas and Aztecs in the movie? The Incas and Aztecs did practice human sacrifice. It is not a lie dreamed up by Mel. Go read a book on history or anthropology.

I think Mel Gibson is a nut case too but you're reading too much into the movie. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

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I think that is a crappy

By Anonymous, Anonymous at Mar 30, 2007 14:41 PM

I think that is a crappy movie but I don't know what have the neocons got to do with it. It is not like someone from the Bush administration has commissioned the movie. The kind of jingoism, macho obsession and some may say racist attitude in the movie are standard fare in American pop culture. In case you don't know the movie is a faithful adaptation from a comic book. Incidcentally all Spartans died in the end, I don't think that is the message that the neocons want to get across if the Spartans were standins for American troops in the Middle East. And like I said before, most American viewers probably cannot even make the connection that Persia is Iran.

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re Mel Gibson

By Kissenger, Clark at Mar 30, 2007 13:06 PM

I think he wants to portrays "other races" not as virtuous as the white.. With the movie Acapolypto, he portrayed The Incas or Atzec with a person similar physical look of president Hugo Chavez.. cyrano [me] was pissed.It was like Hugo Chavez performing human sacrifices..

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Mel Gibson

By Kissenger, Clark at Mar 30, 2007 10:05 AM

The ironic thing about Mel Gibson is that he portrays crimes which had been committed by Nazis against Jews during World War II as having instead been committed by British soldiers against innocent Americans in the Revolutionary War and then denies the Holocaust altogether! Alright, so he's never explicitly stated in public, to my knowledge at least, his disbelief in gas chambers, mass executions through other means, and various other things of a related sort, but given his drunken tirade against Jews and his father's repeated appearances at Holocaust-denial conferences as a lecturer, I'd bet good money that in private, he espouses all of the usual holocaust-denying apologetics to people in whom he feels comfortable in confiding on a regular basis. That man is just so confused.

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Not seen the movie

By Kissenger, Clark at Mar 28, 2007 17:20 PM

I'll preface this by noting I haven't seen the movie (if I do, I'll download it on a day when I want to get angry at the world). The eXile has an review of the movie which I found via Left Thought:
Only amateur fascists admire Sparta guys; they're still pissed off because people like me dared to warn them the Iraq war was going to be a disaster. Now the neocons have gone so over the deep end of delusional thinking that they've resorted to fantasizing about Sparta, where nobody ever argued, where everyone yelled and stabbed and otherwise kept their mouths shut.
Money. -- James Cape @ http://blog.ignore-your.tv

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Persia was Iran

By Anonymous, Anonymous at Mar 28, 2007 16:32 PM

Persia is Iran, after all. And if you search 'criticism of 300 Iran', you will get lots of angry Americans writing about how stupid Iranians are for getting so upset - don't they get that it's just a movie? Yes, but I wonder how many young American males,--the intended audience of the flick,--actually know that. You are talking about American youths after all.

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