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Jones: Ideally
Forum Post, April, 02 2011
David Jones
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Exactly. In a perfect world The prescription of Horace Cambell would be correct, let Africans take care of Africa. But it is so far from perfect, as his long piece suggests ( paradoxically). After Libya and the Maghreb , there will be lots for th...
Jones: One More
Forum Post, April, 02 2011
David Jones
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Another question to ask The Noam and ourselves is : Can the state ever act irrationally? And as it applies to the current situation: Does knowing the states implicit motives automatically determine and condition our response to it's acti...
Chomsky: Noam Chomsky: On Libya and the Unfolding Crises
Znet Article, March, 31 2011
Noam Chomsky
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An interview on U.S. motives in international relations, intervention in Libya, and Libyan self-determination...
Prince: United States and Algeria Anti-Terrorism Cooperation in Africa
Znet Article, March, 31 2011
Rob Prince
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At about the time that the United States, the European Union and NATO were putting the final touches on their not-so `humanitarian’ interventionalism in Libya, U.S. Middle East policy was developing along quite different lines in Algeria.
Achcar: Libya Debate & Background
Audio, March, 29 2011
Gilbert Achcar
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Gilbert Achcar interviewed on Left Business Observer...
Ovenden: The Arab Revolution Must Stay In Arab Hands - A Response To Gilbert Achcar
Znet Article, March, 29 2011
Kevin Ovenden
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The Arab revolution has widened the left’s horizons. In the region itself there is now a historic possibility of a new radical politics: successful resistance to the hegemonic Western powers and to Israel fused with the movement of the young and p...
Achcar: Libya Debate & Background
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Gilbert Achcar
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Gilbert Achcar interviewed on Left Business Observer...
Ovenden: The Arab Revolution Must Stay In Arab Hands - A Response To Gilbert Achcar
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Kevin Ovenden
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The Arab revolution has widened the left’s horizons. In the region itself there is now a historic possibility of a new radical politics: successful resistance to the hegemonic Western powers and to Israel fused with the movement of the young and p...
Nikonov: revolutionary forces ? Under the command
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Alla Nikonov
of long-time CIA operative? Are you also calling Posada Carrilos a "revoltionary"?
Emersberger: Re: Ashcars Argument
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Joe Emersberger
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David, It isn't that the West "didn't think of" withdrawing support for dictators. It is that they don't want to. They want regimes that put the elite western interests above their people's. That often requires ...
Nikonov: let us ask REAL question
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Alla Nikonov
USA IS massacring people of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Should DJ ask USA(UN is their a sham, admit it) to bomb itself? Not mentioning Yemen and iraq. Oman IS crashing Bahrein rebellion. Should we ask Oman to bomb itself? USA occupation is NOT so...
Jones: Ashcars Argument
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
David Jones
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Let's use Ashcars argument from the audio piece. A popular uprising erupts in North Korea and the regime begins a massacre. Can UN/ NATO intervene under any circumstance? Ovenden makes a couple of dubious assumptions: That NATO wi...
Jones: Thanks
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
David Jones
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Thankyou Znet for hosting this debate and to Michael especially for establishing an atmosphere conducive to learning. This is painful at times but necessary.
Nikonov: I suppose I could remind you about
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Alla Nikonov
some historical events in Russia. After the revolution 1917 some "nationalists" and some "russian patriots" turned to Kaizer's help against Bolshevics - the same Bolsheviks they before had accused of being "German agen...
Emersberger: A simpe alternatibe that I think gets missed
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Joe Emersberger
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The dominos are wobbling all over the MIddle East thanks to the uprisings. If West simply withdrew its support from all the repressive regimes in the regime in the region one of the fallen dominos would surely be Gaddafi.
Itulain: Re: Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya
Forum Post, March, 27 2011
Mikel Itulain
One thing: Opposing Gaddafi´s massacre. Opposing puppet rebels massacre. Opposing NATO massacre. Ok?.
Campbell: Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya
Forum Post, March, 27 2011
Horace Campbell
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The images of Tomahawk cruise missiles and bombs raining down on Libya from British, French, and US warplanes have ensured that many people now oppose the foreign military intervention in Libya.
patterson: Interesting Points about "Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya"
Forum Post, March, 26 2011
george patterson
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Horace Campbell, you made some interesting valid points , including proposals, about "Opposing Gaddaffi's Massacre and Foreign Intervention in Libya". But these points , including particularly proposals, need to be developed g...
Campbell: Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya
Znet Article, March, 26 2011
Horace Campbell
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The images of Tomahawk cruise missiles and bombs raining down on Libya from British, French, and US warplanes have ensured that many people now oppose the foreign military intervention in Libya.
Itulain: Not humanitarian reasons
Forum Post, March, 23 2011
Mikel Itulain
"The United States is ostensibly bombing Libya for humanitarian reasons". Not true. Bombing is not a humanitarian reason and is not for humanitarian reasons. US never did it for humanitarian reasons, they have good reasons but n...


