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Forum Post Jones: Ideally

Forum Post, April, 02 2011 David Jones
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Exactly. In a perfect world The prescription of Horace Cambell would be correct, let Africans take care of Africa. But it is so far from perfect, as his long piece suggests ( paradoxically). After Libya and the Maghreb , there will be lots for th...

Forum Post Jones: One More

Forum Post, April, 02 2011 David Jones
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Another question to ask The Noam and ourselves is : Can the state ever act irrationally? And as it applies to the current situation:  Does knowing the states implicit motives automatically determine and condition our response to it's acti...

Znet Article Chomsky: Noam Chomsky: On Libya and the Unfolding Crises

Znet Article, March, 31 2011 Noam Chomsky
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An interview on U.S. motives in international relations, intervention in Libya, and Libyan self-determination...

Znet Article Prince: United States and Algeria Anti-Terrorism Cooperation in Africa

Znet Article, March, 31 2011 Rob Prince
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At about the time that the United States, the European Union and NATO were putting the final touches on their not-so `humanitarian’ interventionalism in Libya, U.S. Middle East policy was developing along quite different lines in Algeria.

Audio Achcar: Libya Debate & Background

Audio, March, 29 2011 Gilbert Achcar
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Gilbert Achcar interviewed on Left Business Observer...

Znet Article Ovenden: The Arab Revolution Must Stay In Arab Hands - A Response To Gilbert Achcar

Znet Article, March, 29 2011 Kevin Ovenden
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The Arab revolution has widened the left’s horizons. In the region itself there is now a historic possibility of a new radical politics: successful resistance to the hegemonic Western powers and to Israel fused with the movement of the young and p...

Forum Post Achcar: Libya Debate & Background

Forum Post, March, 29 2011 Gilbert Achcar
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Gilbert Achcar interviewed on Left Business Observer...

Forum Post Ovenden: The Arab Revolution Must Stay In Arab Hands - A Response To Gilbert Achcar

Forum Post, March, 29 2011 Kevin Ovenden
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The Arab revolution has widened the left’s horizons. In the region itself there is now a historic possibility of a new radical politics: successful resistance to the hegemonic Western powers and to Israel fused with the movement of the young and p...

Forum Post Nikonov: revolutionary forces ? Under the command

Forum Post, March, 29 2011 Alla Nikonov

of long-time CIA operative? Are you also calling Posada Carrilos a "revoltionary"? 

Forum Post Emersberger: Re: Ashcars Argument

Forum Post, March, 29 2011 Joe Emersberger
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David, It isn't that the West "didn't think of" withdrawing support for dictators. It is that they don't want to. They want regimes that put the elite western interests above their people's. That often requires ...

Forum Post Nikonov: let us ask REAL question

Forum Post, March, 29 2011 Alla Nikonov

USA IS massacring people of Afghanistan and Pakistan. Should DJ ask USA(UN is their a sham, admit it) to bomb itself? Not mentioning Yemen and iraq. Oman IS crashing Bahrein rebellion. Should we ask Oman to bomb itself? USA occupation is NOT so...

Forum Post Jones: Ashcars Argument

Forum Post, March, 29 2011 David Jones
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Let's use Ashcars argument from the audio piece.  A popular uprising erupts in North Korea and the regime begins a massacre.  Can UN/ NATO intervene under any circumstance? Ovenden makes a couple of dubious assumptions: That NATO wi...

Forum Post Jones: Thanks

Forum Post, March, 29 2011 David Jones
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Thankyou Znet for hosting this debate and to Michael especially for establishing an atmosphere conducive to learning. This is painful at times but necessary.

Forum Post Nikonov: I suppose I could remind you about

Forum Post, March, 29 2011 Alla Nikonov

some historical events in Russia. After the revolution 1917 some "nationalists" and some "russian patriots" turned to Kaizer's help against Bolshevics - the same Bolsheviks they before had accused of being "German agen...

Forum Post Emersberger: A simpe alternatibe that I think gets missed

Forum Post, March, 29 2011 Joe Emersberger
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The dominos are wobbling all over the MIddle East thanks to the uprisings. If West simply withdrew its support from all the repressive regimes in the regime in the region one of the fallen dominos would surely be Gaddafi.

Forum Post Itulain: Re: Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya

Forum Post, March, 27 2011 Mikel Itulain

One thing: Opposing Gaddafi´s massacre. Opposing puppet rebels massacre. Opposing NATO massacre. Ok?.

Forum Post Campbell: Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya

Forum Post, March, 27 2011 Horace Campbell
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The images of Tomahawk cruise missiles and bombs raining down on Libya from British, French, and US warplanes have ensured that many people now oppose the foreign military intervention in Libya.

Forum Post patterson: Interesting Points about "Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya"

Forum Post, March, 26 2011 george patterson
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Horace Campbell, you made some interesting valid points , including proposals, about "Opposing Gaddaffi's Massacre and Foreign Intervention in Libya".  But these points , including particularly proposals, need to be developed g...

Znet Article Campbell: Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya

Znet Article, March, 26 2011 Horace Campbell
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The images of Tomahawk cruise missiles and bombs raining down on Libya from British, French, and US warplanes have ensured that many people now oppose the foreign military intervention in Libya.

Forum Post Itulain: Not humanitarian reasons

Forum Post, March, 23 2011 Mikel Itulain

"The United States is ostensibly bombing Libya for humanitarian reasons". Not true. Bombing is not a humanitarian reason and is not for humanitarian reasons. US never did it for humanitarian reasons, they have good reasons but n...

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