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Thron: solutions to the Global Order
Forum Post, July, 04 2011
Mark Thron
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Doesn’t this raise the alarm bell that the global system has to be drastically changed or should we say overthrown? On the national level doesn’t all the evidence Prof. Chomsky presents points to a hegemonic capitalist syst...
Crowlesmith: Great to hear a personal story
Forum Post, July, 03 2011
Jeremy Crowlesmith
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Really interesting to read a personal story from the streets of Greece. Thanks for this report.
Moorey: Re: viewing trouble
Forum Post, July, 02 2011
Crip Moorey
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CTRL and + key (windows) Apple key and + key (Mac)
Marty: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, July, 01 2011
David Marty
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You make all your points very clearly, don't worry, and it makes a lot of sense, which is why we are discussing it at length, in my opinion. To your last comments, I shall only add that perception is often very misleading. Nowhere else in Europe c...
Atangcho: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, July, 01 2011
Merius Atangcho
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" a citizens movement and it is happening at a time where much has been accomplished in opposition to sexism, racism and homophobia... Society has evolved but somehow the design from radical leftists still depicts us as working in a fact...
Phillips: viewing trouble
Forum Post, July, 01 2011
Blair M. Phillips
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I had some difficulty getting font large enough to read.
Marty: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, July, 01 2011
David Marty
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Well, I would say that the main difference between propaganda and artwork is that art comes from individuals. Messages coming from groups may be represented in some form of art but if you try to limit it to a soundbite or a poster it is just propa...
Kwint: Superb writing
Forum Post, July, 01 2011
Marius Kwint
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What excellent, concise writing! We have to expose the myth of the essentially fair-playing, decent British authorities by recourse to history and present experience.
Gorman: The Tide - Protest Song
Forum Post, June, 30 2011
Sharee Anne Gorman
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Thank you, Noam, for keeping your eyes open and your resolve unwavering. You are so strong! The Tide - A Protest Song...about jobs, unions, democracy, change...and Justice for All! Written & Performed by Sharee Anne Gorman. http:/...
Atangcho: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, June, 30 2011
Merius Atangcho
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Will certainly take a look (I'm actually running a search right now). I understand the hesitation with propaganda. Been having quite a few dilemmas lately. (Is "Robin-Hood-ism" justified? Can a person earning lots of money, sa...
Marty: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, June, 29 2011
David Marty
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I don't know about propaganda, but artwork and design would certainly be an intelligent move. There needs to be some concern for those things which unfortunately are synonymous of dirt in the Left, just like money. Znet has managed to break our co...
Atangcho: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, June, 29 2011
Merius Atangcho
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Oh wow, it's almost as if you're anticipating my follow-up, or maybe this movement just appears too good to be true. The reason I asked was because good slogans seem very much missing from the left, even ZNet for example. So I could see &...
Marty: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, June, 29 2011
David Marty
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Well, slogans are the one things the indignant are not short of, in fact there are lists that circulate on the net and are discussed in the media on the top slogans of the 15-M. It is either the top 10 or the top 25... But on top of that you have ...
Atangcho: Re: Re: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, June, 29 2011
Merius Atangcho
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It most certainly would be exhilarating. I would add that your concern would appear to be inevitable. While plenty of organizing can be done beforehand, it seems a mass movement always has some, or perhaps a huge factor of, spontaneity to it so t...
Roblin: Re: Re: Inspiring
Forum Post, June, 28 2011
Stephen Roblin
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That's wonderful to hear. A testament to people's latent desire for democracy and how it can be awakened, often unpredictably.
Marty: Re: Inspiring
Forum Post, June, 28 2011
David Marty
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Yes, and in fact with these you-had-to-be-there type of experiences the problem is that, well, you really had to be there! Words cannot describe the feeling one has when everyone around you stops being defensive towards you and cynical about polit...
Roblin: Inspiring
Forum Post, June, 28 2011
Stephen Roblin
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David - I found your piece to be very inspiring. The line that stuck out the most with me is: "everyone dropped their attitude of mistrust toward one another. We all began our conversation presupposing that the other one was a decent person.&...
Marty: Re: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, June, 27 2011
David Marty
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And thanks for touching this very relevant subject. This remark I made was the one I was hoping to get feedback on. Strategy is crucial indeed, and these kind of choices are always difficult to make. But I am afraid there might be a slight misu...
Atangcho: Re: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, June, 27 2011
Merius Atangcho
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Thanks for the response. I now have a much better sense of where you're coming from, especially in light of your observation that discussions of long-term visions produced more controversy than those of short-term goals--a very important...
Marty: Re: Concern...
Forum Post, June, 27 2011
David Marty
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Hi, You make a good point and I don't disagree with you. What I was trying to say was that at this point what gives us strength is the fact that we all agree - by and large - about our short term goals. We are about to achieve those goals, p...
