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Forum Post Waters: Re: Re: Nonviolence Has Limited Effectiveness...

Forum Post, August, 24 2011 Joseph Waters

Violence does not always produce counter-violence. Overwhelming violence can produce complete submission, docility and slavery; this is what we have in the u.s. Potentially, we can have more soldiers on our side. The working class is the overwhelm...

Forum Post New: Re: Nonviolence Has Limited Effectiveness...

Forum Post, August, 24 2011 Rick New

Violence also has limited effectiveness Perhaps there is no dignity in any conceptual approach? Authentic, spontaneous response to each situation as it emerges may hold some possibility, yet unknown. Meeting insanity with insantiy seems failed f...

Forum Post McNamara: Re: Laws for the rich!!

Forum Post, August, 24 2011 Tom McNamara
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It gets even worse. In the States, even the hint that a Banker might have committed a crime gets erased. Forget capitalism. What ever happened to democracy? http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/is-the-sec-covering-up-wall-street-crimes-20110817

Forum Post MARKS: THE RIGHT TO RIOT

Forum Post, August, 24 2011 Howard MARKS
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Cameron is a wanking yuppie Toff !! WE BRITISH are a RIOTING PEOPLE !! This is what BBC TV bollocks glorification history docs gets you !! No historial memory of any real history. EVERY RIGHT and EVERY FREEDOM we British have was born out of RIOTI...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm sorry, I thought I was clearer

Forum Post, August, 21 2011 Michael Albert
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Paul, honestly, it isn't clear why this is continuing. For one thing, when I answer you -  you don't seem to reply to what I wrote. Maybe I am missing it, but you simply offer your views, again, and again. But additionally, it is okay...

Forum Post Schloss: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm sorry, I thought I was clearer

Forum Post, August, 21 2011 Paul Schloss
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We don’t disagree there are general causes, or what I would call background reasons for what happened.  Clearly there are; it would be a kind of madness to deny it.  However, a general cause does not create a specific event; becaus...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: I'm sorry, I thought I was clearer

Forum Post, August, 21 2011 Michael Albert
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The thing about proximate causes - as compared to the general ones that operate - is that the former are relevant for two things - a prosecutor or defence attorney, say, looking for guilt or innocense in some situation - or to help find general ca...

Forum Post Schloss: Re: Re: I'm sorry, I thought I was clearer

Forum Post, August, 21 2011 Paul Schloss
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So close, but so far apart!  Thanks for replying.   I agree: we will have to disagree.  However, I need to make two small points to clarify my position.  When I write a riot creates rioters I am not saying that what happened he...

Forum Post Andrews: £14 Billion

Forum Post, August, 20 2011 John Andrews
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Hi Paul Great piece. Th UK government has spent £14 Billion on the war in Afghanistan; £4 Billion of which has been spent this year. Would the riots have take place if this money had been ploughed back into the 'useful economy...

Forum Post patterson: My Dissappointment about Lannan's censorship of your film about Cambodia - " Year Zero, The Silent Death of Cambodia

Forum Post, August, 20 2011 george patterson
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I am deeply disappointed with Lannan's ban of your film - "Year Zero, The Silent Death of Cambodia".  It is absolutely outrageous that he imposed this censorship on your excellent film.  It is just another glaring example o...

Forum Post Jamaluddin: Laws for the rich!!

Forum Post, August, 19 2011 Samir Jamaluddin
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I totally agree with JP on this issue it's frankly disgusting what the elite class has done around the world.   What really pisses me off in the UK is how when there is talk of taxing the rich we are always told that they will just up and...

Forum Post Yearwood: Excellent Piece

Forum Post, August, 19 2011 Kelvin Yearwood
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A very good piece, Paul. The corporate press of the UK may have had some influence on Cameron and his reflexive, Tory, dehumanising rhetoric, but what is shocking is the lack of a critical mass of opposition in the so-called liberal institution...

Forum Post Albert: Re: I'm sorry, I thought I was clearer

Forum Post, August, 19 2011 Michael Albert
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Paul, I will stand by what I wrote. I understood you. I don't agree with you. By a large amount. But I am not in the UK, and now there are many folks there who are addressing the issues seriously, and well, I think. Pilger, Marquesse, just tod...

Forum Post Shepherd: Brilliant and Obvious

Forum Post, August, 19 2011 Lester Shepherd
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It is a sad world today with the self-fawning millionaires and billionaires slowing eating themselves, and us, up.

Forum Post Schloss: I'm sorry, I thought I was clearer

Forum Post, August, 19 2011 Paul Schloss
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I don’t think this piece is about the English riots.  Rather it is about an idea of a riot; which is then applied to what happened in England over a week ago.    The first sentence in point 1.  Is this true?  I&rsquo...

Forum Post Sandstrom: Re: Se revideret udkast

Forum Post, August, 18 2011 Anders Sandstrom
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Hi Jean-Francois, Great to se one more scandinavian translation of IOPS. I am a member of Parecon-Sweden. I think there is a lot to gain from cooperation between the scandinavian countries. There is already a cooperation between Sweden and Finland...

Forum Post Corbett: Se revideret udkast

Forum Post, August, 17 2011 Jean-Francois Corbett
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Dette udkast er blevet rettet i, siden det blev slået op. Se venligst det reviderede udkast.

Forum Post Weber: But austerity IS needed....

Forum Post, August, 17 2011 Mark Weber
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Implicit in any call for austerity measures is that they be forced upon those asked to accept them, if necessary, by the use of (naked, government) police or military power. What the various media pundits should say is, "(Imtelligent, honest) ...

Forum Post Techentien: Re: Fear and The Young

Forum Post, August, 17 2011 Gary Techentien
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Well said.  Your eloquent explanation puts me in mind of a quote I read recently in Mike Davis' City of Quartz.  A gangmember drug dealer, explaining why he was in a gang, dealing drugs, etc., said, with the cynicism of a canny capit...

Forum Post Mccumber: Thank You.

Forum Post, August, 17 2011 John Mccumber
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I would like to thank you for your article David. One despairs at the constant noise of the mainstream media, its is gratifying to see something of this nature for a change. Thanks again.

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