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Forum Post, December, 03 2010 Michael Albert
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Fair enough!

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Forum Post, December, 03 2010 Michael Albert
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Matt,   I am afraid the confusion about what is wrong in the quote persists - it isn't the attribution of concern, or what your summary says I am worried about happening. You got that okay, basically, at least for a quick summary, s...

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Forum Post, December, 03 2010 Andrej Grubacic
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cyn is right. we should drop this. we are running in circiles. you are right to say that "Well you have nightmares about what irks you. I will have them about what irks me." I think that is probably the reason behind this whole exchange....

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Forum Post, December, 03 2010 Matt Grinder
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>and that your summary wasn't my argument in some rather important respects. That's either my fault or yours.  Honestly, I think it's yours.  I hope you will not take this unkindly.  But you talk about the end of c...

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Forum Post, December, 03 2010 Cynthia Peters
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STOP! Just stop for a sec. Can you two find a way come through this conversation? This is painful.

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Forum Post, December, 03 2010 Michael Albert
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Okay, we can agree to disagree about a - f, at least for now, pending more evidence on both sides. I admit, I still don't understand why you disagree, that is to say, why you are so sure these points are largely false, and why you seem to thi...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Nicholas Carr

Forum Post, December, 03 2010 Michael Albert
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Yes, Carr's book, thank you, is the one I have begun reading, and which is the source on the reports of experiments, etc. There are many other bits of evidence offered - very compelling reading. I recommend it as well for its clear writing and...

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Forum Post, December, 03 2010 Chris Spannos
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Ø  You say my logic is extreme - but I think you are really talking about my style in a single blog post.   You wrote, “I have become steadily more concerned about Facebook to the point where I am beginning to fe...

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Forum Post, December, 03 2010 Brian Small
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The Wikipedia page on "Is Google Making Us Stupid" has a nice run down of a similar debate. "Carr believed that the effect of the Internet on cognition was detrimental, weakening the ability to concentrate and contemplate." The...

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Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Michael Albert
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hi again, You write:"I was not trying to quote you, I was trying summarize your blog post. I put quotations around it to indicate it was a summary.  Sorry if this was a confusion.  Why summarize you?  Trying to understand your argument.  From m...

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Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Michael Albert
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Let's agree to disagree about the wisdom or kindness of your saying over and over that I sound like someone who literally advocates murder on a scale unknown in history, through a type of illogic that is breathtaking...zerzan...and your saying t...

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Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Brian Small
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Hi Michael,   I'm not sure what the Frontal Lobes do either, I think it's just an interesting way to say it's bad for your brain, that habitual multi-tasking makes it harder to sustain your attention on a worthwhile task. I mentio...

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Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Andrej Grubacic
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You are incorrigable. Not only that you were able to write another hostile reply, you were somehow able to accuse me of being hostile. Saying that you sound like Jon Zerzan--and you do, he can be quite sensible when it comes to discussion of probl...

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Forum Post, December, 02 2010 James Green
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As a teacher at a high school and technical college in Japan I have been concerned about the effects of text messaging for a while.  It is a daily battle to attempt to separate my students from their hand held text messaging machines in order...

Forum Post Grinder: Re: Re: science attention span and an alternative explanation

Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Matt Grinder
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>> I read the main theme of your blog post as saying something like "Modern communications technology (cell phones, the internet, email, facebook, etc.) is causing shorter attention spans.  This is bad because it will make every...

Forum Post Albert: Re: science attention span and an alternative explanation

Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Michael Albert
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Matt,   > I read the main theme of your blog post as saying something like "Modern communications technology (cell phones, the internet, email, facebook, etc.) is causing shorter attention spans.  This is bad because it wil...

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Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Michael Albert
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> you know what annoyms the hell out of me? the fact that you read what i write line by line, pargraph by paragraph, before reading the entire comment in its entirety first.    Yes, but I am replying to you and a whole bunch of ...

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Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Matt Grinder
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I read the main theme of your blog post as saying something like "Modern communications technology (cell phones, the internet, email, facebook, etc.) is causing shorter attention spans.  This is bad because it will make everyone stupi...

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Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Andrej Grubacic
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you know what annoyms the hell out of me? the fact that you read what i write line by line, pargraph by paragraph, before reading the entire comment in its entirety first. this could lead you to a more generous reading of my argument, and, i suspe...

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Forum Post, December, 02 2010 Michael Albert
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> mike, you are doing your famous straw man argument dance. john zerzan, all his defects aside, is quite sophisticated when he talks about problems of modern information technology. i suspect you know this.     I read Zerza...

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