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Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.
Forum Post, August, 08 2011
Michael Albert
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John, > I think it was this paragraph which made me feel you would be open to hearing a description of how the parecon system could be modified to work without money and without money being tied to work to consumption. I tried to make it c...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.
Forum Post, August, 07 2011
Michael Albert
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John, If you have serious concerns about parecon, or about my comments regarding anarchist concerns, please raise them and I will reply. As to the alternative you pose, honestly, it is just you more less winging it&he...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.
Forum Post, August, 07 2011
Michael Albert
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> The differences that I'm going for is that 1. everyone will work the same level of onerouness, etc. This means, at least as written, that you are legislating a total duration, intensity, and onerousness of work and I can't, for...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.
Forum Post, August, 07 2011
Michael Albert
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> 1. I'm far from persuaded that we need money for most transactions (aside from trade with outside capitalist regions, and perhaps internal bookkeeping within industries). This is likely because you (a) are thinking of money as capital - ...
Albert: Wonderful Internet Sources for Leftists!
Blog Post, August, 06 2011
Michael Albert
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A number of excellent sites readers might wish to try...
Albert: Re: Living the alternatives involves costs - material, intellectual and social.
Forum Post, August, 03 2011
Michael Albert
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I basically agree with your formulations, but you seem to go further than I would - which is perfectly reasonable, but I think not a priority... That is, often, alternative isn't really particularly alternative. It is just smaller, say - but ...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Commons
Forum Post, August, 03 2011
Michael Albert
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> A lot of people in IT who do actual programming are actually quite skeptical of managers and hierarchical authority ... thus could be described as somewhat 'libertarian' :- the challenge is to convince them to be left-libertarian rath...
Albert: Re: Capital Control and Protectionist Devices
Forum Post, August, 02 2011
Michael Albert
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well, ireland and the uk are certainly prime spots, I think, for a fight forward approach...glad you like the components.
Albert: Re: Capital Control and Protectionist Devices
Forum Post, August, 02 2011
Michael Albert
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If we develop a moement large enough to win the type demand the article suggests, on a large scale - capital flight really isn't that much of a problem - because these are system wide demands... If you fight for higher wages in an industry - ...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: The Commons
Forum Post, August, 02 2011
Michael Albert
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Are you Australian? I felt they were potentially important too - for quite awhile - but after talking with folks, writing about it, debating in some cases, inviting, urging, emailing, etc., seeing the lack of inclination to do anything beyo...
Albert: Re: My 2 cents
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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I understand what you are saying, it just doesn't solve my confusion. There is almost nothing in this society that isn't horrendously alienated. Racial, gender, power, and profit dictates are either front and center, or at least lurking, ...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: The Commons
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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If open source means very little, there is very little reason to relate to it. In fact, however, it actually does have some meaning, and some agenda - bearing on intellectual property, etc., by and large reasonable and even progressive, though ver...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Commons
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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Hi Katie.... Ownership is certainly a big problem - the pursuit of profit as the guiding motive. But I wouldn't say it is all of it, or really perhaps even the heart of it. Take Facebook and Twitter and have them publicly owned and it isn'...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why fighting?
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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> What are the undelying systemic causes? Not the outer causes that we can see, but the underlying causes? Perhaps there are deeper issues than we are allowing ourselves the time to explore? I have to tell you, this is not really ve...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: The Commons
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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IT is a chicken and egg situation - there are certainly more than enough leftists to make it large enough so that there are plenty of people to engage with as allies friends, and others to engage with to learn from or try to convince, etc. etc. - ...
Albert: Re: The problem is not what do to but how to accomplish it
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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> It's hard to argue with any of the proposals Michael makes as they are all together and individually eminently sensible. But, as my father was fond of saying, between the lip and the plate many peas fall from the knife. ...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why fighting?
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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> It seems that the current economic ills are caused by agression, are they not? The agression of exploiting our resources and each other. Well, it is a strange formulation, to my ears. No, I would say they are caused by a sy...
Albert: Re: Re: Fight Forward
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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Of course, I think tax the rich, soak the rich, derich the rich, and so on, would all be fine!
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Why fighting?
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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I have to admit I do not wish to get sidetracked into a discussion of the word fight - I would say, if you want to pursue that, perhaps write a post with your views.... The issue in this post is the proposed program. That said, I will answer jus...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Spot on
Forum Post, August, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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Hi Michael, I value and financially support your efforts and know that you and Z have had great impact on the left. I also am concerned that we don't only talk to each other. Here are thoughts about some of what you wrote: Of...


