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Monbiot: Monbiot Reply to Albert 1
Znet Article, December, 19 2003
George Monbiot
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Dear Michael, I would like to start by thanking you for the opportunity to debate these matters. One of the developments which makes me most optimistic is that the question our movement is now asking most often is no longer what?, or why?, but h...
Monbiot: The Age of Consent
Znet Article, December, 18 2003
George Monbiot
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Without global democracy, national democracy is impossible. If you don't believe me, take a look at what has happened to Luiz Inacio da Silva. Before he became president of Brazil, Lula promised to transform the way his country was run. The econom...
Albert: Reply to Marko Re Vision...
Znet Article, December, 18 2003
Michael Albert
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Marko has two large reasons for not only disliking my advocacy of parecon and vision in general, but for thinking that such advocacy by myself and others is downright harmful. Moreover, these reasons are not unique to Marko, but prevent a great ma...
Albert: Revolution Based on Reason Not Faith or Fantasy
Znet Article, December, 18 2003
Michael Albert
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Imagine a biologist announces that cancer is forever so we should stop trying to cure it. Given the imp...
Albert: Albert Reply to Monbiot - 1
Znet Article, December, 18 2003
Michael Albert
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George, I agree with you that without global democracy national democracy is hamstrung (though it is nonetheless quite different to have free elections, free speech, etc., than to have death squads and dictators). For me globalization means rewri...
Albert: Albert Reply to Callinicos #3
Znet Article, December, 17 2003
Michael Albert
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Alex, I agree that your party has differed even to the point of violent conflict with other Leninist parties. Leninism isn't one phenomenon, of course. And I agree with you that neither of us should arbitrarily stipulate what Leninism is. We shou...
Albert: Albert Rejoinder to Callinicos, #2
Znet Article, December, 17 2003
Michael Albert
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Alex, You say your justice norm justifies what in parecon are two independent norms of remuneration, one for those who can work and one for those who can't. But suppose someone says it is fine for society to have some people earning $30,000 a yea...
Callinicos: Comment On Albert 2
Znet Article, December, 16 2003
Alex Callinicos
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Dear Michael, Because lots of things are going on, I'm having to write two responses to you simultaneously and hence am making a division of labour (spare the jokes about balanced job complexes). So: if I don't comment on everything in your first...
Callinicos: REPLY TO ALBERT 2
Znet Article, December, 16 2003
Alex Callinicos
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Dear Michael, I've responded in my latest comment on your opening statement (and rejoinders) to your queries about my proposed principle of egalitarian justice: I hope this leaves you less confused. I want to concentrate here on the questions of ...
Albert: Albert Reples to Callinicos 2
Znet Article, December, 11 2003
Michael Albert
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Albert Reples to Callinicos 2
Callinicos: Rejoinder To Albert 1
Znet Article, December, 11 2003
Alex Callinicos
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Dear Michael, Thanks for your comments. In response I'll try to deal with the main issues that you raise, but also to move the argument on a bit: 1. Justice and other values: Of course you're right that everyone claims to have justice on th...
Albert: First Rejoinder to Callinicos
Znet Article, December, 10 2003
Michael Albert
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We seem to agree on the desirability of solidarity, diversity, and workers and consumers influencing decisions in proportion to the extent they are affected by them. Regarding remuneration, however, you note that rewarding for effort and sacrifice...
Albert: First Rejoinder to Callinicos
Znet Article, December, 10 2003
Michael Albert
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We seem to agree on the desirability of solidarity, diversity, and workers and consumers influencing decisions in proportion to the extent they are affected by them. Regarding remuneration, however, you note that rewarding for effort and sacrifice...
Albert: Values, Visions, and Strategy
Znet Article, December, 09 2003
Michael Albert
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Alex, I like that you start with values. I think creating vision requires a small set that covers our central aspirations while being ...
Callinicos: Comment On Albert (1)
Znet Article, December, 09 2003
Alex Callinicos
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First of all, let me make it clear that I don't see this debate as a polemical confrontation where we're each out to trash the other's views. Rather, it's an opportunity to clarify points of both agreement and disagreement between people active in...
Albert: Participatory Society and The Trajectory of Change
Znet Article, December, 07 2003
Michael Albert
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Assuming we agree that a society built on authoritarianism, patriarchy, racism, and capitalist exploitation is abysmal, what new social systems do we want and how do we expect to attain them? People in civilization inevitably combine efforts to a...
Callinicos: The Case For Revolutionary Socialism
Znet Article, December, 07 2003
Alex Callinicos
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It’s a media cliché that the anti-globalization movement is purely anti – that it knows what it is against, not what it is for. In fact, to be against neo-liberalism, corporate globalization, and imperial war is already to stand f...
Albert: Participatory Society and The Trajectory of Change
Znet Article, December, 07 2003
Michael Albert
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Assuming we agree that a society built on authoritarianism, patriarchy, racism, and capitalist exploitation is abysmal, what new social systems do we want and how do we expect to attain them? People in civilization inevitably combine efforts to a...
Raptis: Parecon: Life After Capitalism
Znet Article, December, 04 2003
Nikos Raptis
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The word "Parecon" in the title of this book is unknown to almost all Greeks. Likewise, unknown is to all the inhabitants of the Earth what will be the "Life After Capitalism", which is the subtitle of this book. Michael Albert tries to...
Albert: The Joyous Potential Of Economic Vision
Znet Article, November, 10 2003
Michael Albert
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I recently had an opportunity to read an essay criticizing Participatory Economics from Odessa Steps, titled The Sad Conceit of Participatory Economics. My reactions to what appeared in it, trying to correct strange readings, mostly, lead me to wa...
