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Karman: fundamentalism
Forum Post, February, 13 2012
Leen Karman
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Where the hell did you get that idea - that pacifism is based largely in a form of fundamentalism?
Karman: Superfluous
Forum Post, February, 13 2012
Leen Karman
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Your essay is OK, as far I can judge. Please note Paul, that I didn't feel the urge to deliver a comment, weren't it for your last line in our argument about Super Bowl. You made me almost naughty cheerful as you finished with &q...
Goodrich: I don't think so.
Forum Post, February, 12 2012
John Goodrich
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Religion as it is constituted in today's U.S. and the right wing ideology with which it chooses to ally itself has no place either in a civilzed society, a socialist/communist society nor a moral society. I will grant that the teachings of Ch...
Karman: well Paul,
Forum Post, February, 12 2012
Leen Karman
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I suppose this is the essay of which you were writing I am very confident that my next ZNet essay will be much more to your liking. First of all: yes, I appreciate it. I have my second thoughts but to be honest with you (and with myse...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Provocateurs
Forum Post, February, 12 2012
Michael Albert
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Keith, Michael Albert said: “The idea that most of the black bloc is undercover is, I am sorry Keith, total nonsense.” > I never said that most of the black bloc is undercover, I said that “most of the “black bloc...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Provocateurs
Forum Post, February, 12 2012
Michael Albert
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I am not aware of anyone who says it can't - or doesn't happen here. There is a very large difference between saying the state will infiltrate movements, and does, sometimes just to spy and later catch people - sometimes to literall...
Albert: Re: In Support of Nonviolence
Forum Post, February, 12 2012
Michael Albert
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> This is a much needed discussion, and while Chris Hedges’ article may have had “fundamentalist” leanings it can be credited for bring to the forefront an important issue. The sad thing is, I think, that what Chris did...
Walsh: Can't pull no Rip Van Winkle
Forum Post, February, 12 2012
Vincent Walsh
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Can’t pull no Rip Van Winkle Storytellin’ time again, my friends Brings me back to that fateful late summer in Chicago Demo’s convened to put up the Humph While Ginsberg-Genet-Burroughs Chanted poetry in the ...
Annabel: Re: Violence Begets Defeat or Too Much Pacifism?
Forum Post, February, 11 2012
Patrick Annabel
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#Occupy #Anonymous Warning to #BlackBloc FAKE Anon Response http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nAKcWZST1M Enjoyed the article and feel it leaves the door open to discussions with many people of differing mindsets... Peace
Keller: Re: Re: Re: Re: Provocateurs
Forum Post, February, 11 2012
Keith Keller
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Michael Albert said: “The idea that most of the black bloc is undercover is, I am sorry Keith, total nonsense.” I never said that most of the black bloc is undercover, I said that “most of the “black bloc” are ...
Brussel: Re: Re: Re: Re: Provocateurs
Forum Post, February, 11 2012
Morton k. Brussel
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The proportion of those who protest violently by randomly trashing or attacking others cannot be accurately determined, but I think one has to have their head in the sand not to recognize that state provocateurs have been used in the past by force...
Hay: Non Violence Or?
Forum Post, February, 11 2012
Jeff and karen Hay
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Aloha Michael, We have some thoughts we'd like to share with you regarding the "Black bloc" controversy and your article regarding it. First off it would be interesting to consider the ...
Brussel: Corruption
Forum Post, February, 11 2012
Morton k. Brussel
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The sense I get from this article is that the protesters have only an inchoate notion of what they want. All the leaders, including those in the opposition, according to Kargolitsky, are corrupt and or following self aggrandizing neoliberal polici...
Shepherd: Leen:
Forum Post, February, 11 2012
Lester Shepherd
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Gargantuan inequality is despicable! These people are the hucksters. This country was supposedly founded on helping your brother, not, disaster capitalism. Christ was a raw communist!
Polson: Types of violence
Forum Post, February, 10 2012
Rufus Polson
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Excellent article, and I agree pretty much entirely. To my mind, it's not only a question of violence or not-violence, either. It's what kind, both what sort of specific acts and, maybe even more importantly, the organizational envir...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Provocateurs
Forum Post, February, 10 2012
Michael Albert
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The idea that most of the black bloc is undercover is, I am sorry Keith, total nonsense. Just as it was nonsense that most of the weathemen, or black panthers, or even sds were under cover, in my day - and perhaps it is your day, too. I helped or...
Dominick: Re: Re: Re: Provocateurs
Forum Post, February, 10 2012
Brian Dominick
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It's definitely not "uncontroversial" that "most of the black bloc are provocateurs, frequently undercover police or military". Not at all. The documentation you provide is all from other countries. There was in fact no suc...
Keller: Re: Re: Re: Provocateurs
Forum Post, February, 10 2012
Keith Keller
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The link doesn't seem to function directly, however, if you copy and paste to your browser it does. Also, any creative sort of googling should produce what you are looking for.
Keller: Re: Re: Provocateurs
Forum Post, February, 10 2012
Keith Keller
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Alternative media and common sense. In Seattle, black bloc thuggery went unpunished as peaceful protesters were attacked and arrested. Black bloc thugs were seen and photographed returning to police areas and removing their costumes. Same thing...
Street: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: no Paul,
Forum Post, February, 10 2012
Paul Street
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Leen Karman I am very confident that my next ZNet essay will be much more to your liking.
