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Lee: This is a most lovely essay
Forum Post, October, 09 2012
Terri Lee
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I enjoyed reading this very much.
Lee: Re: Re: 80% Voter Turnout in Venezuela
Forum Post, October, 09 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
Oh no!!! Tom -- the US has one of the worst systems of all!
Lee: What a condescending non-response.
Forum Post, October, 09 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
This is not about emotion: It's about co-optation.
Davidson: Co-option in many flavors
Forum Post, October, 09 2012
Carl Davidson
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There's more than one way to co-opt a movement. With OWS, the far greater danger has been being co-opted from the far left into Black Blocism. That'll scatter your movement to the winds far more effectively than anything Piven or the Dems ...
Lee: This essay's title does not surprise me
Forum Post, October, 09 2012
Terri Lee
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Of course you want to merge, blend, ovelap 'movements' with 'electoral politics' -- after all, how else could the movements be co-opted? The strength of a movement is how much it can press up against an established system a...
Lee: You could not be more wrong
Forum Post, October, 09 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
Frances Fox Piven -- I was in the audience when you and Cornel West hid behind the red "Democratic Socialist of America" banner. Your commentary at that plenary made me ill. You and Cornel both professed your "love" for O...
Owens: Inspiring
Forum Post, October, 08 2012
H L "Sarah" Owens
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Is there any USian counterpart to the ANMCLA that you know of, Amanda (or anyone reading this)?
Tarling-Hunter: Harnessing fear to push through unfettered capitalism
Forum Post, October, 08 2012
Daniel Tarling-Hunter
Tarling-Hunter's ZSpace page
I think one of the key issues which you touch on and I have come accross living in the UK, but this is also an issue accross Europe is the use of current crisis and the labour market insecurity it has produced is to push through ideologi...
Lee: Right on, Shamus Cooke!
Forum Post, October, 08 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
Austerity is abou to arrive. So, how would you like your Austerity delivered? By a white man in a red tie or a black man in a blue tie? It just doens't matter, of course, we are going to feel the sting of this either way. This ...
McNamara: Re: 80% Voter Turnout in Venezuela
Forum Post, October, 08 2012
Tom McNamara
McNamara's ZSpace page
I would say that that the US has one of the most trustworthy electoral systems in the world as well, even allowing for the events of the 2000 election. The fact that the outcome was a statistical tie in a country of 300 million tells us just how...
Lee: 80% Voter Turnout in Venezuela
Forum Post, October, 08 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
HIGH VOTER TURNOUT -- 80%! -- BOOSTS CHAVEZ'S CREDENTIALS! REUTERS: "....turnout of 80 percent will boost Chavez's democratic credentials...." Venezuela has one of the most trustworthy electoral systems worldwide. As a resu...
Lee: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BOYCOTT 2012!
Forum Post, October, 07 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
Thank you, Tom. Much appreciated, Terri
McNamara: Re: Re: Re: Re: BOYCOTT 2012!
Forum Post, October, 07 2012
Tom McNamara
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Dear Terri, I apologize, but I don’t have the exact reference. It was from a YouTube video of a presentation he was making. During the Q&A session at the end of the video the topic came up. But I think he talks about it during practi...
Lee: Re: Re: Re: BOYCOTT 2012!
Forum Post, October, 06 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
Hello Tom, Your comment about Chris Hedges supporting the Election Boycott is of interest to me. Do you have a link or a statement on this? Thanks, Terri
McNamara: Re: Re: BOYCOTT 2012!
Forum Post, October, 06 2012
Tom McNamara
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I know Chris Hedges has been talking about this recently. I believe he is of the opinion that people should stop voting altogether. This will remove the last shreds of respectability from the corrupt revolving door system of left/right politics....
Lee: Re: Re: BOYCOTT 2012!
Forum Post, October, 05 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
There is something that we can do. Something nonviolent, legal, risk-free, and with the potential to delegitimize the government. Notice that I didn't say overthrow, abolish, or replace it, but just delegitimize it. That would be a ...
Lee: 13,000 HITS
Forum Post, October, 05 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
"My little website fubarandgrill.org had a previous record of about 1,500 views for a single article--most had somewhere between 20 and 50 views. My article, 'You've Got to Stop Voting,' now has over 13,000 views, most...
Lee: That is not correct, Carl
Forum Post, October, 05 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
Please google 'Election Boycott' and you will see that this tactic is frequently used world-wide to delegitimize governments and to go up against electoral fraud. What is ineffective is wasting your vote on a guaranteed loser.
Gendvil: Re: BOYCOTT 2012!
Forum Post, October, 04 2012
Carl Gendvil
Gendvil's ZSpace page
In the presidential race I would rather vote third party. In congressional and senate races, I would still vote Dem. Half the population doesn't vote as it is. Not voting accomplishes nothing.
Lee: BOYCOTT 2012!
Forum Post, October, 03 2012
Terri Lee
Lee's ZSpace page
The strongest action the left can take in ELECTION 2012 is to BOYCOTT! A movement for this is well underway. For more, see: www.electionboycott2012.org And: http://www.zcommunications.org/election-2012-boycott-activ...


