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Mäkinen: Video available
Forum Post, December, 20 2011
Joona-Hermanni Mäkinen
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There's now a video available of the seminar “Thinking about Classlessness: An introduction to Participatory Economics” held by Mark Evans (PPS UK) in Youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJgXZTZdtcE&feature=youtu.be
Jauhiainen: Scandinavian co-operation
Forum Post, December, 01 2011
Antti Jauhiainen
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Very glad to read this account from the Forum, and I agree fully with Anders that co-operation amongst Scandinavian countries is much needed. We have been very pleased with how easy it has been to co-operate with Parecon Sverige, and I think the e...
Olle: Great points....but
Forum Post, December, 01 2011
Eric Olle
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I don't think there is any correct answer. The crux of the current argument is very much what I am hearing from all sides. There are several sub-groups inside that 99% and the protestors should "present" their demand and...
Bohmer: Re: Finally...
Forum Post, November, 28 2011
Peter Bohmer
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As far as i can tell, the professional-managerial or what you call the coordinator class is almost totally absent in the Occupy movement in Olympia, WA and I think also in Portland and Seattle. Occupy Olympia is primarily young people, man...
Krumm: Perhaps it's more inclusive for a reason
Forum Post, November, 23 2011
John Krumm
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Hi MIchael (and others) My general impression is that the 99% slogan is a way to include the poor, the less poor, the middle, the upper middle, and even the upper upper middle in one group. It's divisive and inclusive and the same time, plus ...
Wetzel: Re: Re: Glad you raised this
Forum Post, November, 22 2011
Tom Wetzel
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i agree michael. Oakland Occupy was scheduling GAs every nite. That orients to those in the encampment and people who have the time and commitment to be there all the time. Few people are in that situation. the whole idea of a multi-issue economic...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Finally...
Forum Post, November, 22 2011
Michael Albert
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No - you are right, but it isn't clear how to deal with it. That is, when someone writes howver gently, however supportively, with some concerns - others can quote out of context. But - if we let that silence all concerns, then we allow the m...
Volpe: Re: Re: Re: Re: Finally...
Forum Post, November, 22 2011
Giuseppe Volpe
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> a slogan can encapsulate a perspective - as well...and even promote one Sure enough. And a criticism can encapsulate a perspective and even promote one. However maybe this is all a matter of excessive sensitivity on my par...
Albert: Re: Glad you raised this
Forum Post, November, 22 2011
Michael Albert
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HI Tom, I hope you are doing well! > I've been thinking similar thoughts. I'm not even sure whether "the 1 percent" is defined in terms of top owners of wealth or top income. It's accurate enough if the idea is to put a ...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Finally...
Forum Post, November, 22 2011
Michael Albert
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> I would like to respectfully insist that a slogan is a slogan and an economic and political vision is something very different. Of course, but I would add that a slogan can encapsulate a perspective - as well...and even promote one. > It...
Volpe: Re: Re: Finally...
Forum Post, November, 22 2011
Giuseppe Volpe
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Hi Michael, I would like to respectfully insist that a slogan is a slogan and an economic and political vision is something very different. It's a good thing to remind that there are not only two classes etc. But there are many other things th...
Marty: Re: Re: Re: Finally...
Forum Post, November, 22 2011
David Marty
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Hej Rickard, My name is David, I'm from Madrid. I happen to be working on a similar project, that is building a "business" or coop on Parecon principles, here in Madrid. I am also in touch with the PPS people in Sweden and often go there (Stock...
McGehee: Re: Glad you raised this
Forum Post, November, 22 2011
Michael McGehee
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tom, and ive had countless conversations on this and more. from what i can gather the occupy movements seem to be self-organized and self-managed. which is a great development, as well as the bias towards general assemblies and participatory democ...
Hosepyan: Re: Re: Re: Finally...
Forum Post, November, 22 2011
Yetvart Hosepyan
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Hello Joseph, To answer your questions without a huge debate (not because it is not worth it but because I think we are more or less on the same page): I would not be willing to share my knowledge and expertise freely. I would want fair compensa...
Wetzel: Glad you raised this
Forum Post, November, 21 2011
Tom Wetzel
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I've been thinking similar thoughts. I'm not even sure whether "the 1 percent" is defined in terms of top owners of wealth or top income. It's accurate enough if the idea is to put a finger on the plutocratic elite, the big i...
Waters: Re: Re: Finally...
Forum Post, November, 21 2011
Joseph Waters
Yetvart, Are you willing to share your knowledge and expertise freely? Do you feel that your specialized education and training should give you more privileges, rank and status than those who do not have such advanced training? Michael's arti...
Waters: It Needed To Be Said
Forum Post, November, 21 2011
Joseph Waters
I'm glad you pointed this out, Michael. You did it more diplomatically than I probably could.
Svensson: Re: Re: Finally...
Forum Post, November, 21 2011
Rickard Svensson
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Good article! I'm trying to read "Parecon - life after capitalism" in swedish at the time. Sorry but I have a question to you however that's not related to this article really. See my mom has been a worker most of her life, but n...
Dominick: Daily Show Treatment
Forum Post, November, 21 2011
Brian Dominick
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I honestly don't know how "accurate" the Daily Show segment on class division within the OWS encampment was, but even if only as parody, it's really quite astute on this matter that Mike is pointing out here. http://www.thedaily...
Albert: Re: important
Forum Post, November, 21 2011
Michael Albert
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> This is the time to bring up this problematic slogan, thanks. You are welcome. > A coordinator class dynamic is not what I see playing out here locally where it is actually some laborers who seek to moderate demands and preserve the...


