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Forum Post Rodriguez: Re: Progressing Backwards

Forum Post, June, 26 2010 Paulo Rodriguez
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Dear Mark,Trust me, if you think I'm not frustrated about many of the issues you have raised, guess again, I'm often as completely consumed with frustration as you are. However...I'm assuming that by "so-called progressives" you are talk...

Forum Post Smith: Progressing Backwards

Forum Post, June, 26 2010 Mark E. Smith
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Some so-called progressive writers in the U.S. have figured out a quick and easy way to write a book. They interview a few activists, being sure to include some well-known names, add some positive spin about how much progress we're making, and col...

Forum Post Smith: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, June, 26 2010 Mark E. Smith
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It isn't going anywhere.As long as you keep voting for tyranny, you'll never get democracy.A reformed tyranny, a slightly less tyrannical tyranny, or even a benevolent tyranny, is not democracy.Your reason for not opposing tyranny and insisting up...

Forum Post Uss: Re:

Forum Post, June, 15 2010 Jonathan Uss
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yea mark please post it far and wide. have you seen the Simpsons Parecon hack I did? http://www.zcommunications.org/the-simpsons-fight-for-parecon-by-jonathan-uss you can post that one far and wide as well.

Forum Post Grinder: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, June, 14 2010 Matt Grinder
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>Once irreparable damage has been done, the idea is to prevent any more irreparable damage from being done.I agree.  Who doesn't?>Immediately.Okay, how do you do that *immediately*? How is that possible?  How do we *immediatel...

Forum Post Smith: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, June, 14 2010 Mark E. Smith
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Once irreparable damage has been done, the idea is to prevent any more irreparable damage from being done. Immediately. I imagine a worst case scenario because that's what must be done to prevent irreparable damage, as with the Gulf oil disaster. ...

Forum Post Marty: Very good!

Forum Post, June, 10 2010 Daniel Marty
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I think that's a very good creation. I wish we could hear that kind of message more often on the radio or TV, I'm quite sure a lot of people would become identify.

Forum Post Grinder: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, June, 09 2010 Matt Grinder
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>Both contracts and popular action have the same problem as simply waiting until a representative's term of office is up and then >trying to elect a new one. While the lawsuits are proceeding (and some lawsuits take decades to be decided) an...

Forum Post Uss: Class Dismissed

Forum Post, June, 09 2010 Jonathan Uss
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Representing the structure of Class in the US today with beats, bars, word play and striking artistry this Music video is visionary anthem for the struggle towards a classless society.

Forum Post Evans:

Forum Post, June, 09 2010 Mark Evans
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Nice work!I have asked the site admin for PPS-UK to add this to our site - is that okay? 

Forum Post Smith: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, June, 08 2010 Mark E. Smith
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Both contracts and popular action have the same problem as simply waiting until a representative's term of office is up and then trying to elect a new one. While the lawsuits are proceeding (and some lawsuits take decades to be decided) and while ...

Forum Post Smith: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, June, 08 2010 Mark E. Smith
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I'm glad you agree that representative democracy is not democracy and that participatory democracy is democracy, because that's why we're here.And that's why I don't think that electing better representatives is the answer.In a direct or participa...

Forum Post Grinder: Re: Re: Re: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, June, 05 2010 Matt Grinder
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I still have to find a lawyer to talk to, but I did find the guy who teaches Law 12 at the high school where I teach.  I asked him about making candidates sign a legally binding contract before they are elected to obey the will of the nested ...

Forum Post Grinder: Re: Re: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, June, 03 2010 Matt Grinder
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>I'm afraid that big corporations or the military-industrial complex can afford to indemnify a candidate for any financial damages they might >incur for voting to betray their constituents. When trillions of dollars in defense contracts, oil...

Forum Post Smith: Re: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, June, 02 2010 Mark E. Smith
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I'm afraid that big corporations or the military-industrial complex can afford to indemnify a candidate for any financial damages they might incur for voting to betray their constituents. When trillions of dollars in defense contracts, oil leases,...

Forum Post Grinder: Re: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, May, 30 2010 Matt Grinder
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Then make them sign over their house or something when becoming a candidate, or their retirement savings,  they get it back after their term in office.  Also, they will never get elected again after betraying the nested councils, the maj...

Forum Post Smith: Not Possibe in U.S.

Forum Post, May, 30 2010 Mark E. Smith
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I don't know how things work there, but here in the U.S. we don't have a right of recall for elected officials at the federal level. Our Constitution says that only Congress itself can remove a seated Member of Congress and they have never done so...

Forum Post Grinder: political party for a participatory society

Forum Post, May, 28 2010 Matt Grinder
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I think a good way forward for people who want a particpatory society is to for a political party for a particpatory society.  Call it the PDP for "particpatory democracy party".The party would have parecon and parpolity and ap...

Forum Post Evans: Coalition Proposal

Forum Post, May, 27 2010 Mark Evans
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A draft proposal calling on the British Left to form a coalition for a participatory democracy in preporation for the formation of a Fifth International.

Forum Post Greeman: Internationals: Horizontal or Vertical

Forum Post, May, 26 2010 Richard Greeman
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 In our efforts to imagine a Fifth International we need to look back at the successes and failures of the historical First, Second, Third and Fourth International and attempt to draw so lessons for today. Here's a brief sketch. The Exam...

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