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Forum Post Evans: PPS-UK: National Campaign / Initial Demands?

Forum Post, May, 25 2011 Mark Evans
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A proposal for a set of initial demands for a National Campaign and a call to help develop it further.

Forum Post Allen: Towards an International

Forum Post, May, 13 2011 Matt Allen
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Where I think we might go next, depending on further responses to the organisational poll.

Forum Post Evans:

Forum Post, May, 13 2011 Mark Evans
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Hi Matt - thanks for sharing your thoughts on how we might move forward.   Im sure you are aware that there is a plan already in place - The four step plan is - pending poll results, that Z staff & friends in consultation with and follo...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Diversify?

Forum Post, April, 29 2011 Michael Albert
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Actually, I just took a look at the list - and while it is not ideal, I quite agree - it is less narrow than I thought and will keep getting better.  There are 16 countries represented. There are some notable countries where we ought to have...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Diversify?

Forum Post, April, 29 2011 Michael Albert
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Well, the committee was put together in three days  - which was necessary for keeping the poll momentum going. And a big problem that will persist for awhile is that it is all in English only... If things proceed that will change later. Final...

Forum Post Roblin: Re: What better place than here, what better time than now?

Forum Post, April, 27 2011 Stephen Roblin
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I'm also very glad that you all are moving ahead. 

Forum Post Albert: An Organization for the Future?

Forum Post, April, 27 2011 Michael Albert
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Building a new organization...

Forum Post Reiter: What better place than here, what better time than now?

Forum Post, April, 27 2011 I.N. Reiter
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That sounds very exciting and very encouraging. I hope that more will join in now! Unfortunately I don´t see any comitee member from Germany yet, I hope that there will be prominent support soon, until then, I´ll spread the word where...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I was in the 2 percent

Forum Post, April, 22 2011 Michael Albert
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Hi, again... sorry, I missed this earlier.  First, the description of the organization polled about is certainly influenced by parecon and parsoc - and does not violate them at all, that I can see. It would be a place where people with those...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Too Fast?

Forum Post, April, 21 2011 Michael Albert
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Hi! You write: "I completed the poll only after avoiding it a number of times.  Why?  Two reasons: the nature of the internet, and the goal.  The first, despite all appearances to the contrary, can actually be quite a passive...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Poll Thoughts

Forum Post, April, 21 2011 Michael Albert
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Well, I guess you should answer the poll and say, no, you think you would not join. But let me respond, briefly, to your comment - I don't think that we should have an extended debate about this here - it just doesn't seem the right place....

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Why I was in the 2 percent

Forum Post, April, 21 2011 Michael Albert
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I don't know what is going on in Cuba and don't even feel I have a partial picture, honestly, so I can't comment on that, sorry. It seems to me that the other things you mention could be pursued and worked on, etc., by folks in a...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The organization is not well-defined

Forum Post, April, 20 2011 Michael Albert
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That an organization wants to orient itself to electoral activities, in part, at some moment, along with other efforts - may not be what you are worried about. But that is I would think the most one could expect to emerge on that score from an org...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The organization is not well-defined

Forum Post, April, 20 2011 Michael Albert
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I guess we can agree to disagree, if we even are, and I think one of the most important things about the organization description is the emphasis on having room for just that... disagreement where the minority position is protected, explored, etc....

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The organization is not well-defined

Forum Post, April, 20 2011 Michael Albert
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We could debate whether Kropotkin thought that or not - I don't think so. My memory of reading him was it was very sensible stuff, but honestly, not particularly careful or full regarding the economy. But my memory may be wrong. And honestly, ...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The organization is not well-defined

Forum Post, April, 20 2011 Michael Albert
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It's not a definition of an organization. It is a description of a set of core features. A full definition would emerge only from a membership, the commitment to self management and the various other related features should make that evident, ...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Why I was in the 2 percent

Forum Post, April, 20 2011 Michael Albert
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Carl, Hi If you mean the description rejecting markets in the long run is too far from your views, okay, fair enough. Same as if someone felt the rejection of private ownership of capital was too far from their aims.  But if that long term ...

Forum Post Guimond: Re: Re: Re: Can't make it work

Forum Post, April, 20 2011 Andre Guimond
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Arthur - It looks to me like you've been trying to take the Reimagining Society poll rather than the Organization poll that's being discussed here. I can't confirm since I already took the poll, but I seem to remember the process being...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Poll Thoughts

Forum Post, April, 19 2011 Michael Albert
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> Some go for remuneration simply based on need (to each.....), Some people say it, I agree - but I honestly I do not think anyone believes it. You would either have to think someone else gets to say what I need - or, if I get to say what I ne...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: The organization is not well-defined

Forum Post, April, 19 2011 Michael Albert
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Tom, We would, for what it is worth, agree on a list of the dangerous  ills of electoral activity, I believe, just as we would likely agree on a list of the dangerous ills of violent engagements, etc. I just wouldn't say based on such ge...

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