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Forum Post Albert: Re: Capital Control and Protectionist Devices

Forum Post, August, 02 2011 Michael Albert
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If we develop a moement large enough to win the type demand the article suggests, on a large scale - capital flight really isn't that much of a problem - because these are system wide demands... If you fight for higher wages in an industry - ...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: The Commons

Forum Post, August, 02 2011 Michael Albert
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Are you Australian?  I felt they were potentially important too - for quite awhile - but after talking with folks, writing about it, debating in some cases, inviting, urging, emailing, etc., seeing the lack of inclination to do anything beyo...

Forum Post Albert: Re: My 2 cents

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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I understand what you are saying, it just doesn't solve my confusion. There is almost nothing in this society that isn't horrendously alienated. Racial, gender, power, and profit dictates are either front and center, or at least lurking, ...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: The Commons

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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If open source means very little, there is very little reason to relate to it. In fact, however, it actually does have some meaning, and some agenda - bearing on intellectual property, etc., by and large reasonable and even progressive, though ver...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Commons

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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Hi Katie.... Ownership is certainly a big problem - the pursuit of profit as the guiding motive. But I wouldn't say it is all of it, or really perhaps even the heart of it. Take Facebook and Twitter and have them publicly owned and it isn'...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why fighting?

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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> What are the undelying systemic causes? Not the outer causes that we can see, but the underlying causes?  Perhaps there are deeper issues than we are allowing ourselves the time to explore? I have to tell you, this is not really ve...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: The Commons

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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IT is a chicken and egg situation - there are certainly more than enough leftists to make it large enough so that there are plenty of people to engage with as allies friends, and others to engage with to learn from or try to convince, etc. etc. - ...

Forum Post Albert: Re: The problem is not what do to but how to accomplish it

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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> It's hard to argue with any of the proposals Michael makes as they are all together and individually eminently sensible.  But, as my father was fond of saying, between the lip and the plate many peas  fall from the knife.  ...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why fighting?

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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> It seems  that the current economic ills are caused by agression, are they not? The agression of exploiting our resources and each other.   Well, it is a strange formulation, to my ears. No, I would say they are caused by a sy...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Fight Forward

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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Of course, I think tax the rich, soak the rich, derich the rich, and so on, would all be fine!

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Why fighting?

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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I have to admit I do not wish to get sidetracked into a discussion of the word fight - I would say, if you want to pursue that, perhaps write a post with your views.... The issue in this post is the proposed program. That said, I will answer jus...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Spot on

Forum Post, August, 01 2011 Michael Albert
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Hi Michael, I value and financially support your efforts and know that you and Z have had great impact on the left.  I also am concerned that we don't only talk to each other.  Here are thoughts about some of what you wrote: Of...

Forum Post Albert: Re: The Commons

Forum Post, July, 31 2011 Michael Albert
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In my own experience - perhaps yours is different - open source is not just apolitical. It is very very narrowly focused, foregoing options to actually have serious impact and positions. Sadly.  And it even takes this stance proudly and milit...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Why fighting?

Forum Post, July, 31 2011 Michael Albert
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I am not sure what you mean - a synonym is struggle. It is what you do seeking change. The women's movement, labor movement, civil rights movement, anti war movement - they all fight, or struggle, for change.  Why must we do it? Becuase ...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Excellent Idea!

Forum Post, July, 31 2011 Michael Albert
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Nice to hear... Thanks.

Forum Post Albert: Re: Spot on

Forum Post, July, 31 2011 Michael Albert
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> However, part of the appeal is the knowledge that you can *theoretically* reach millions. Labourstart, Avaaz, the I.L.O. and many others have developed such a tunnel vision, while sadly forgetting about the points you have stated above. ...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Prospects of ZSocial

Forum Post, July, 31 2011 Michael Albert
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This is of course the response we need, once the system is public.

Forum Post Albert: Re: ZSocial promotion

Forum Post, July, 31 2011 Michael Albert
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These are manin ones, I agree. We'll see if people have others soon !

Forum Post Albert: Re: Facebook

Forum Post, July, 31 2011 Michael Albert
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The comments are on a different article posted a day earlier... When you read t let mms know. I don't suggest shunning it....

Znet Article Albert: Facebook is Diseased, ZSocial as Medicine?

Znet Article, July, 30 2011 Michael Albert
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Facebook - and Google, Twitter, etc. - are massive corporate media machines that care about sociality, information, truth, or justice only as means to profit and power

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