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Roblin: Re: Re: Some general remarks
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Stephen Roblin
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Quick comments . . . Clearly, experimenting with death, misery, and oppression has no place in a decent society, which includes remuneration based on purchasing power. My point on experimentation had to do with deciding between the parecon remun...
Albert: Re: A minor concern: Fame...
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Michael Albert
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I am not sure this needs to be added to anarchist concerns - if you think it does, please let me know why, if you have a moment for it. But by way of reply, first, income is an incentive in parecon. We work, in a parecon, in part in order to earn...
Albert: Re: Some general remarks
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Michael Albert
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Will take these up later, in the next piece too, but... 1. The general point, that different workplaces or neighborhoods have different situations and will therefore adopt different approaches about many things they do, is of course correct, and ...
Casten: A minor concern: Fame...
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
J.D. Casten
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Michael (et. al,): Perhaps you might recall my not complete, but partial, critique of Parecon as replacing money as an incentive for innovation with “social esteem” and altruistic aims to help out ...
Polson: Re: Re: Additional Concern
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Rufus Polson
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It's really pointless to say the world is doomed. If it isn't actually doomed, saying so is irresponsible because it demoralizes the people trying to do useful things. If it is actually doomed, then it doesn't matter what p...
Polson: A few ranging notions
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Rufus Polson
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This comment deals with a few different things. On topic section first, potential criticisms of Parecon: One criticism that has come to my mind about Parecon: As described, I don’t quite see how it manages remuneration for people...
Polson: Typo
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Rufus Polson
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Nothing particularly creative or interesting to say on this yet. Just noticed that on criticism 10, I believe you want to say "Parecon does not seek" rather than "Parecon does seek".
Roblin: Some general remarks
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Stephen Roblin
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Just a few general remarks which by no means address all the rebuttals I can think of . . . 1. Expanding on the first critique, that "[p]roposing visionary blueprints exceeds what we can know," putting forth a detailed proposal may limi...
Atangcho: Re: Additional Concern
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Merius Atangcho
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Valid concerns. On economics/finances, points 7-12 ("Vision Tied to the Past is Problematic") adequately capture your concerns. On class, your concerns might warrant broadening or adapting points 1-3 or 4-6, or both sections, to better...
Albert: Re: Additional Concern
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Michael Albert
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John, I will be addressing your points carefully in the next essay for sure, but I will also reply here more directly to you. I understand you have lots of time pressure and will certainly understand if you don't pursue the exchan...
Shepherd: Re: Additional Concern
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
Lester Shepherd
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Seems mighty elegant to me. Very, very good points. This world is doomed in my estimation and there is nothing we can do about it. It is going to evolve in any way it chooses.
Casten: A minor concern: Fame...
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
J.D. Casten
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Michael (et. al,): Perhaps you might recall my not complete, but partial, critique of Parecon as replacing money as an incentive for innovation with “social esteem” and altruistic aims to help out ...
Bernhart: Additional Concern
Forum Post, June, 23 2011
John Bernhart
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I consdier myself an anarchist, and I have been a long-time lurker and sustainer of Z Magazine despite some concerns I have with what seems to be the dominant political philosophy. I actually voted against supporting the organization recently prop...
Jauhiainen: Very good proposal
Forum Post, June, 06 2011
Antti Jauhiainen
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Very good idea, and I think Scandinavia is a good (larger) area for an early IOPS chapter. I am actively collecting feedback and ideas from Finland, and will report after I've gathered sufficient material. The early feedback can be categorize...
Roblin: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: three things to work on now
Forum Post, June, 02 2011
Stephen Roblin
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"Regarding policies - Im only suggesting a working group could be set-up to produce a proposal for the ICC to consider and suggest refinements and for the membership to formally and officially endorse once we are up and running. And of ...
Evans: Re: Re: Re: Re: three things to work on now
Forum Post, June, 01 2011
Mark Evans
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Hello Stephan - “Regarding local chapter development, I'd be interested to hear what others think are good ways to begin organizing them. I anticipate that some, particularly among seasoned activists, may not be inclined intitially to j...
Roblin: Re: Re: Re: three things to work on now
Forum Post, June, 01 2011
Stephen Roblin
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Hi Mark, Regarding local chapter development, I'd be interested to hear what others think are good ways to begin organizing them. I anticipate that some, particularly among seasoned activists, may not be inclined intitially to join another or...
Evans: Re: Re: three things to work on now
Forum Post, May, 31 2011
Mark Evans
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Hello Stephen - Yes I feel good about the process so far. I like the poll and the fundraiser for the new site went well. I also very much like the sound of the new site - its design and facilities - and Im looking forward ...
Roblin: Re: three things to work on now
Forum Post, May, 31 2011
Stephen Roblin
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Hi Mark, Glad to see that you're enthusiastic about IOPS. "What should our initial set of demands be?" Brainstorimg ideas is of course always welcome. But it's important to remember that any set of demands, whether they be in...
