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Forum Post, August, 24 2011 Mark Weber
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Very entertaining. (as Homer Simpson says, it's funny because it's true). But...is capitalism even the most efficient way to manufacture the most crap using the least inputs? When an enormous output of crap is needed, such as in a big war, don't...

Forum Post Evans: Re: Re: Re: Re: Historical Materialism

Forum Post, August, 16 2011 Mark Evans
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The account of historical materialism that you give (the Engels quote, your comments generally, and your last paragraph) is basically the same as I understand it, so I don’t think that we have any disagreement there.  Where it seems we ...

Forum Post N: Re: Re: Re: Historical Materialism

Forum Post, August, 15 2011 Andrew N
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Hi Mark, Apologies - I tried to italise your comments above and my reply but it didn't seem to work. Although I'm sure you can make out the bits you said from the bits I said.

Forum Post N: Re: Re: Historical Materialism

Forum Post, August, 15 2011 Andrew N
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Hello Andrew and thanks for taking the time to reply. A pleasure! This interview was undertaken by the New Left Project and was initially published on their website. That is where you will also find the reply article from a pro-Leninist position...

Forum Post Evans: Re: Historical Materialism

Forum Post, August, 09 2011 Mark Evans
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Hello Andrew and thanks for taking the time to reply. This interview was undertaken by the New Left Project and was initially published on their website.  That is where you will also find the reply article from a pro-Leninist position. ...

Forum Post Neeson: Historical Materialism

Forum Post, August, 09 2011 Andrew Neeson
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“A key aspect of Marxism is the philosophical position of historical materialism which places particular emphasis on economic activity as a driving force for social dynamics and explanation for historical continuity and change. To my mind ...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.

Forum Post, August, 08 2011 Michael Albert
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John, > I think it was this paragraph which made me feel you would be open to hearing a description of how the parecon system could be modified to work without money and without money being tied to work to consumption. I tried to make it c...

Forum Post Kenny: Does parecon allow each their own need?

Forum Post, August, 08 2011 John Kenny
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Do you anticipate it being relatively easy to work more hours at your work place in order to increase your consumption? It's hard to guess, but the problem I see is the scenario when you workplace doesn't have a group of people who, as ...

Forum Post Kenny: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.

Forum Post, August, 08 2011 John Kenny
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> For example, I still have not heard how the remunerative norm you seem to want would yield relative valuations, would allow me to know how much I should work to be responsible, would guide investments or even amounts to be produced of each...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.

Forum Post, August, 07 2011 Michael Albert
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John,   If you have serious concerns about parecon, or about my comments regarding anarchist concerns, please raise them and I will reply.    As to the alternative you pose, honestly, it is just you more less winging it&he...

Forum Post Kenny: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.

Forum Post, August, 07 2011 John Kenny
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>This means, at least as written, that you are legislating a total duration, intensity, and onerousness of work and I can't, for example, opt for less, or for more, nor can you. There is nothing self managing about that unless there is some...

Forum Post Evans: Re: norton

Forum Post, August, 07 2011 Mark Evans
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Is this intended as a comment on what I say in the interview?  Are there any references to the institutional analysis I make of democratic centralism and Leninist strategy more generally? 

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.

Forum Post, August, 07 2011 Michael Albert
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> The differences that I'm going for is that  1. everyone will work the same level of onerouness, etc. This means, at least as written, that you are legislating a total duration, intensity, and onerousness of work and I can't, for...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.

Forum Post, August, 07 2011 Michael Albert
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> 1. I'm far from persuaded that we need money for most transactions (aside from trade with outside capitalist regions, and perhaps internal bookkeeping within industries). This is likely because you (a) are thinking of money as capital - ...

Forum Post Tatsuo: norton

Forum Post, August, 07 2011 Miyachi Tatsuo
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Stalin revise Lenin's party. Lenin himself seeked bottom-up party form. I n Lein's party,region,or district committe did not exit. Party member directly reported PB. So Lenin understood well rigional problem. Stalin reviced it, and built&n...

Forum Post Kenny: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.

Forum Post, August, 06 2011 John Kenny
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I think I see where Patrick is going. Whatever the case, I'm going to try and offer an alternative for the sake of argument: The differences that I'm going for is that 1. everyone will work the same level of onerouness, etc. and 2. they w...

Forum Post Sandstrom: Re: Re: Detail vs framework

Forum Post, August, 05 2011 Anders Sandstrom
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Gregory, thanks for comments. Like you say, sharing experiences helps to deal with the frustration in how people react to any attemt to introduce a new model like Parecon.

Forum Post Dean: Re: Detail vs framework

Forum Post, August, 03 2011 Gregory Dean
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Anders, I come up against that at least once a month. Very good for me to see shared frustration in how it's received (although discouraging overall).  I stopped wondering a long time ago if it's how I communicate it, mostly we just n...

Forum Post Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.

Forum Post, July, 12 2011 Michael Albert
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>1. I'm far from persuaded that we need money for most transactions (aside from trade with outside capitalist regions, and perhaps internal bookkeeping within industries). My guess is that by "money" you mean something that one a...

Forum Post St. John: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.

Forum Post, July, 12 2011 Patrick St. John
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The stoplight analogy took on a bit of a life of its own, as I found it really useful. There's a pretty important difference between 1) participatorily planning where stop lights are placed, how long they stay red for, etc., and 2) letting who...

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