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St. John: Re: Re: Stop lights, etc.
Forum Post, July, 08 2011
Patrick St. John
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If you read those articles I linked to, you'l see that virtually all traffic signs have been removed - stop lights, stop signs, etc. And these aren't dusty hamlets in Kansas -- they're busy towns and cities in the heart of Europe. Som...
Albert: Re: Stop lights, etc.
Forum Post, July, 08 2011
Michael Albert
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Hi, > 1. Funny thing about the stoplight analogy. Actually, quite a few cities and regions in Europe have rid themselves of stop lights, and things have been going quite well: In the u.s., too, most corners have stop signs or nothing - b...
Albert: Re: some conversations ive had
Forum Post, July, 08 2011
Michael Albert
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> some dont like the coordinator class analysis cuz they say it divides the working class and alienates them from potential allies (ie coordinators). The earliest versions of it were anarchist - bakunin, among others. Your other comments...
St. John: Stop lights, etc.
Forum Post, July, 08 2011
Patrick St. John
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1. Funny thing about the stoplight analogy. Actually, quite a few cities and regions in Europe have rid themselves of stop lights, and things have been going quite well: http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,448747,00.html http://ww...
Ream: Post & Commentary: On anarchistnews.org
Forum Post, July, 06 2011
Christian Ream
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Here is the post with current (and hopefully future) commentary on anarchistnews.org: https://anarchistnews.org/?q=node/14951
McGehee: some conversations ive had
Forum Post, July, 06 2011
Michael McGehee
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your essays have gotten some anarchists i know discussing (sometimes constructively, sometimes not) parecon and there’s been a few of them who ive been able to discuss it with and i think it was productive. some have not been as capable or w...
Albert: Re: Detail vs framework
Forum Post, July, 05 2011
Michael Albert
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Anders, Thanks. Your experience and reaction is precisely what the whole process aims at attaining...but that it fails, at times, with some people, isn't too surprising. At such times, advocates simply have to carry on trying to address ...
Sandstrom: Detail vs framework
Forum Post, July, 05 2011
Anders Sandstrom
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"There is a striking irony in all this. As noted above, often the same person who raises objections to parecon for being a blueprint later asks all kinds of questions that violate minimalist maximalism. They will ask, how long will people wor...
Albert: Answering Anarchist Critics: Part 3
Znet Article, July, 04 2011
Michael Albert
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Parecon is not wage slavery
Yearwood: The Drop-Back-In Option
Forum Post, July, 04 2011
Kelvin Yearwood
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"One small branch of anarchism called primitivists, condemns Parecon for including work and workplaces, inputs and outputs, production and allocation and takes for granted the continuation of industrial civilization." I have encounter...
Albert: Origin and Style? Answering Anarchist Critics: Part 2
Znet Article, July, 02 2011
Michael Albert
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Parecon regularly pays homage to its own lineage, both anarchist and otherwise
Albert: Answering Anarchist Critics: Part 1
Znet Article, July, 01 2011
Michael Albert
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Even before they address parecon, many anarchists reject having any substantial future institutional vision
Albert: Re: Nitpicky Bullshit
Forum Post, June, 29 2011
Michael Albert
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Hi, Joseph, I am with you in respecting and feeling a kinship with old school anarchism...and yes, I do think most of those folks - well, honestly, actually all of them, would be very positive about parecon and would also be about as perturbed as...
Waters: Nitpicky Bullshit
Forum Post, June, 29 2011
Joseph Waters
I have to say that I think a lot of the debate over Parecon is just nitpicky bullshit. I consider myself an Anarchist, but of the old-school variety (think Kropotkin, Goldman, Berkman, Malatesta, Rocker, etc.). I have no problem with Parecon, exce...
Albert: Re: Re: Anarchist concerns
Forum Post, June, 27 2011
Michael Albert
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In response to your friend - a bit briefly, given that I will be posting a full article soon … > I agree with some of these criticisms but I find that a lot of them seem to be strawmen, so I want to sharpen the ones that I t...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Anarchist concerns
Forum Post, June, 27 2011
Michael Albert
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Okay, since I am working on the longer essay, I will be very brief, and a bit more "assertive." Do you agree that if some anarchists are turned off by not using anarchist lingo - that is a sad commentary on them, not on parecon? It ough...
Guerin: Re: Re: Re: Re: Rewards encourage behavior
Forum Post, June, 27 2011
Jon Guerin
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Yes there are other ways to find your talent. However, I still think it's a good idea to encourage people to do what they are talented at and to produce quality work. We can apply the same logic for onerous work to quality work....
Weber: Re: Re: Re: Rewards encourage behavior
Forum Post, June, 26 2011
Mark Weber
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My one-cent-worth: how did Isaac Newton, or Beethoven, or Spinoza, or Babe Ruth, find out what they were good at? It seems to me that the best way to encourage people to "find" their respective talents is to provide to everyone exposure (as in ed...
St. John: Re: Re: Anarchist concerns
Forum Post, June, 26 2011
Patrick St. John
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Sorry if I'm piling on here, but I'm interested in you writing the best essay possible -- I received another message from a fellow comrade, posted below! ------ My name is also Patrick, from Western Mass and hopefully familiar enough wit...
Guerin: Re: Re: Job Complex Limits
Forum Post, June, 26 2011
Jon Guerin
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That sounds good. Sorry for my misunderstanding. My mistake. Thanks for the clarification.
