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Jones: Ashcars Argument
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
David Jones
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Let's use Ashcars argument from the audio piece. A popular uprising erupts in North Korea and the regime begins a massacre. Can UN/ NATO intervene under any circumstance? Ovenden makes a couple of dubious assumptions: That NATO wi...
Nikonov: I suppose I could remind you about
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Alla Nikonov
some historical events in Russia. After the revolution 1917 some "nationalists" and some "russian patriots" turned to Kaizer's help against Bolshevics - the same Bolsheviks they before had accused of being "German agen...
Emersberger: A simpe alternatibe that I think gets missed
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Joe Emersberger
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The dominos are wobbling all over the MIddle East thanks to the uprisings. If West simply withdrew its support from all the repressive regimes in the regime in the region one of the fallen dominos would surely be Gaddafi.
Albert: Re: Re: What are the Principles in Which our Agreement is Grounded?
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Michael Albert
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Regarding your draft - Why not post it as a blog? And ask for reactions. If it is too long, you could put it on your zspace page i various ways - write a blog - and then point people to it, and ask for reactions. The latter will not yield as much ...
Gunther: Re: What are the Principles in Which our Agreement is Grounded?
Forum Post, March, 29 2011
Carl Gunther
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Michael, It will be very interesting to read your analysis, and in particular to see how you go about healing the rift that has occurred between otherwise like-minded people over this question. To me it seems that those of ...
Albert: Re: What are the Principles in Which our Agreement is Grounded?
Forum Post, March, 28 2011
Michael Albert
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HI Carl, I think these are perfectly reasonable and insightful obervations and questions arising from the current situations. I am thinking about them, as obviously you are, and others are. I am hoping to write a piece that covers these matters, ...
Gunther: What are the Principles in Which our Agreement is Grounded?
Forum Post, March, 28 2011
Carl Gunther
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It certainly seems reasonable to think that those reading and posting here will agree on preventing a widening of the US/UN intervention. Some will, for tactical reasons, support limited intervention in the hope that it will create breathing...
Itulain: Re: Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya
Forum Post, March, 27 2011
Mikel Itulain
One thing: Opposing Gaddafi´s massacre. Opposing puppet rebels massacre. Opposing NATO massacre. Ok?.
Jones: Re: Gaddafi's capacity for Bengazhi massacre exagerated?
Forum Post, March, 27 2011
David Jones
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Perhaps they wouldn't have "overrun" it right away. Perhaps they would have just shelled it and bombarded it from the air for a couple of weeks and starved it and cut off all power. While you stood by and defended Gaddafis sov...
Jones: Re: Re: Ghadaffy's demonstration of his capacity for barbarity in Benghazi and elsewhere
Forum Post, March, 27 2011
David Jones
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George, It is amazing the degree to which people are willing to appease Gaddafi to save their own arguments. I am hearing "he wasn't that brutal" or "time was not such a big factor" arguments by which they hope to sal...
Jones: Re: The very reason of new colonial war IS
Forum Post, March, 27 2011
David Jones
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Imperialists like Juan Cole, really? You really like that simple formula for categorizing purposes. Serves simplistic arguments.
patterson: Interesting Points about "Opposing Gaddafi’s Massacre And Foreign Intervention In Libya"
Forum Post, March, 26 2011
george patterson
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Horace Campbell, you made some interesting valid points , including proposals, about "Opposing Gaddaffi's Massacre and Foreign Intervention in Libya". But these points , including particularly proposals, need to be developed g...
Jones: At least
Forum Post, March, 25 2011
David Jones
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At least these authors appreciate the complexity. I don't think their final anlysis of "best English" a la Patrick Coburn really holds up. There are many other factors than "opportunism" to consider here, for instance, hist...
Albert: Re: Libya and the Pavolian instinct...
Forum Post, March, 25 2011
Michael Albert
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> The humanitarian imperialists are at it again with familiar necessary illusions. The US is not preventing a massacre. In fact, it is making things worse. It has stood in the way of offers to negotiate (by Turkey, Brazil, Ven...
patterson: Re: Ghadaffy's demonstration of his capacity for barbarity in Benghazi and elsewhere
Forum Post, March, 24 2011
george patterson
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Ghadafy has already demonstrated his capacity for barbarity in Benghazi and elsewhere such as in Brega, Ras Lanuf, Ajdabiya, Misurata, and Zintan. Before the allied air assault against his tanks, armoured carriers, and planes, his mec...
Albert: Re: More Elementary Thoughts on Libya
Forum Post, March, 24 2011
Michael Albert
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David You write "I believe that your "Very Elementary Thoughts on Thinking about Now" (March 22) had already been overtaken by events before you ever posted the piece." Perhaps, but I doubt it...let'...
Peterson: More Elementary Thoughts on Libya
Forum Post, March, 24 2011
David Peterson
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Michael: I believe that your " Very Elementary Thoughts on Thinking about Now" (March 22) had already been overtaken by events before you ever posted the piece. UN Security Council Resolution 1973 w...
Khan: Those who challenged dictator Qaddafi
Forum Post, March, 24 2011
Nasir Khan
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As the Libyan crisis continues, we witness a vast array of views within the ranks of anti-imperialist activists and radical writers. Richard Falk’s present article is one such example. In this article he has raised many questions about the...
Green: Gaddafi's capacity for Bengazhi massacre exagerated?
Forum Post, March, 24 2011
Chris Green
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Seumas Milne writes in today's Guardian: (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/23/nothing-moral-nato-intervention-libya): "Cameron insisted on Monday in the Commons that the air and sea attacks on Libya had prevented ...
Albert: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Libya and the Pavolian instinct...
Forum Post, March, 24 2011
Michael Albert
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I haven't been arguing the merits of either view - no fly bad, no fly good - but the dysfunctionality of arguing the merits of either view at this point, and particularly in ways that question or doubt the motives or beliefs of the other side....


