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Mpsmith01: Re: Re: Libya and the Pavolian instinct...
Forum Post, March, 23 2011
Martin Mpsmith01
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If i might butt into the discussion between you and William. I think William's point is that we should settle on the legal and moral authority of this particular form of intervention - like myself I'm guessing most Z readers wo...
Albert: Re: Libya and the Pavolian instinct...
Forum Post, March, 23 2011
Michael Albert
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Hi William, I am not sure what you think you can't agree to disagree about - with me - or others? Certainly not the motives of the U.S. I would imagine we agree about that. If it is something in the past - what is it, and what does not agreei...
Wesley: Libya and the Pavolian instinct...
Forum Post, March, 23 2011
William Wesley
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The humanitarian imperialists are at it again with familiar necessary illusions. The US is not preventing a massacre. In fact, it is making things worse. It has stood in the way of offers to negotiate (by Turkey, Brazil, Venezuel...
Aronson: Thanks. Helpful disentagling.
Forum Post, March, 23 2011
Sanda Aronson
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Good read.
Techentien: Extremely Valuable Commentary
Forum Post, March, 23 2011
Gary Techentien
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How valuable to have a quick, cogent analysis of the international military intervention in Libyan limited to the perspective of international law. You have provided us a great service, Professor. Thank you.
Mpsmith01: Valuable contribution
Forum Post, March, 22 2011
Martin Mpsmith01
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Michael, I think you've made the case for "looking forward not backward" better than Obama has! Seriously, I have been passionately against the intervention on many or all of the grounds you mention here. But your point...
Grinder: good post
Forum Post, March, 22 2011
Matt Grinder
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I entirely agree. Though it's rapidly becoming a moot point, my own thought was (before it happened) that the "no fly zone" would up the probability that Libyans can get out of this with less loss of life and with some possibi...
Tripathi: Mockery of "all necessary measures"
Forum Post, March, 22 2011
Deepak Tripathi
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Thank you, Professor Cohn, for your excellent analysis. Instead of pursuing "all necessary measures" as stated in the UN Security Council resolution, the United States and allies have immediately jumped on to the most extreme measure. Ha...
Nikonov: I fully agree. ANY USA and NATO
Forum Post, March, 22 2011
Alla Nikonov
action is a crime. Imperialists are unable not to mass-murder for peofit even if they were willing not to - not they ever willing, of course. By the way, for nice (ugly) example of liberal imperialism I could rec Juan Cole Informed Commen...
Itulain: Not military intervention
Forum Post, March, 21 2011
Mikel Itulain
Military intervention of NATO or US always has a purpose, their own profit, the corporations profit. One thing more, the official story of Sbrenica is principallly an invention of the propaganda. There were massacres in the surrondi...
Cmhusted: UN structure
Forum Post, March, 21 2011
Chet Cmhusted
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Once again, we see that the UN Security Council is in need of structural reform. It will need to re-formatted to represent all the nations of the world rather than a few "permanent" members and another few "t...
Wesley: Re: Re: Re: Re: Real Time
Forum Post, March, 21 2011
William Wesley
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One more thing. The reports were unconfirmed and some sources within Gaddafi's camp later denied the offer took place - but the opposition has acknowledged receiving the offer. For example, Rebels considering Gaddafi offer http://...
Wesley: Re: Re: Re: Real Time
Forum Post, March, 21 2011
William Wesley
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Arab media says Gaddafi looking for exit deal: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/07/us-libya-congress-idUSTRE7266H720110307. Gadaffi looking for deal to exit India: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/gadaffi-looking-for-deal-to-exit-liby...
Agnostic: Re: Re: Real Time
Forum Post, March, 20 2011
Justin Agnostic
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William, Will you share some sources. This is exactly what I expect to be the case: that there were means of protecting the public under fire in Libya while avoiding the use of military force, but Western states chose force in the hopes of ...
Hay: Did "UN Declare War"
Forum Post, March, 20 2011
Jeff and karen Hay
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Did the UN Declare War on Libya as the title of this commentary states? Did Ban Ki Moon initiate and strong arm the United States, Britain, France etc. into joining his desired war? I think not. The correct title of the article s...
Nikonov: Any rebels who ask for NATO bombs
Forum Post, March, 20 2011
Alla Nikonov
are suspicious to me. Even more are rebels led by former ministers of Qaddafi. Last time when USA did it was in Iraq and we all aware what does this mean. But still, at least the author is not supporting the crime of imperialism.
Wesley: Re: Real Time
Forum Post, March, 19 2011
William Wesley
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You say "Chavez is no intellectual". But are you? And if you are, so what? The road to war is paved with the defunct ideas of intellectuals. Rather than cussing out Chavez, we should face three facts. First...
Wesley: Cussing Out Chavez
Forum Post, March, 19 2011
William Wesley
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You say "Chavez is no intellectual". But are you? And if you are, so what? The road to war is paved with the defunct ideas of intellectuals. Rather than cussing out Chavez, we should face three facts. First...
Nikonov: Re: Re: Yes, sure, his people - just look
Forum Post, March, 19 2011
Alla Nikonov
No, Julian, I am NOT supporting Qaddafi, no more than I was supporting Saddam. But when rebels ask for help from the NATO, they are NOT rebels worth supporting, sorry. The most reactionary forces in the world are now for rebels - for me i...
Rousta: Re: Re: Yes, sure, his people - just look
Forum Post, March, 19 2011
Arman Rousta
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Right on, well said Justin!
